too much protein???

[Dave]

You must have an uncommon metabolism, most people would not fare well with a diet like that. Keep in mind as well that diets with excess fat put a strain on the liver similar to excessive drinking.

 

[BoulderBob]

It might, but I'm not sure anyone will know for sure what the "healthiest" diet is, at least in our lifetime. I do carb-up once a month, and I promptly fall asleep...

You can take one look at my "fangs" and see that I was more than meant to get most of my energy from animals...lol

 

[KaliKid]

I always wondered, how many proteins are in a pound of red meat? chicken? pork? salmon?

 

[Morphling]

So much bad advice in this thread

A Review of Issues of Dietary Protein
Intake in Humans

The "average" person needs 2.5-8% dietary protein to maintain health.
Yes, you will piss out excess protein. Too much protein is hard on your liver(too much fat intake too actually), and toxins from excessive amino acid metabolism canactually lead to such problems as hepatic encephalopathy.

Personally if I was eating a lb of beef daily I think I'd ask for a Lipitor chaser

 

[KaliKid]

Depends on your culture too. I'm Mediterranean, and I eat a minimum pound of meat a day, with 2 portions of rice. Come to think of it, sundays I think I go through 2 pounds.

 

[Jabberwocky]

So much bad advice in this thread

A Review of Issues of Dietary Protein
Intake in Humans

The "average" person needs 2.5-8% dietary protein to maintain health.
Yes, you will piss out excess protein. Too much protein is hard on your liver(too much fat intake too actually), and toxins from excessive amino acid metabolism canactually lead to such problems as hepatic encephalopathy.

Personally if I was eating a lb of beef daily I think I'd ask for a Lipitor chaser

this dude wants to get ripped (as far as I can tell from his posts in the steroid forum, asking about lifting and such).

He doesn't want to eat the veggie sampler every night and have his balls shrivel down like an ascetic yogi on retreat.

you need protein to build muscle.

more protein (ime) = stronger next day

1lb of ground beef the night before going for a max effort lift always is a good idea.

not everybody is going for the metrosexual weak pansy look.

advice is only bad relative to a certain context. If the context the OP is posting in is how to get stronger and build mass so he can feel better about himself and be a better person, then eating a lot of meat is the way to go.

if you don't growl a roar of approval at the thought of eating a pound of meat dripping with fat, tearing off huge chunks of it with your bare hands...then you need to SQUAT AND DEADLIFT more.

(or just continue hanging out at the chic coffee shops drinking mocha frappucinos smoking handrolled imported european cigs and chatting about Foucault - to each their own :D).

 

[doesntmatter]

if you're going to pound down the protein, drink lots of water to keep the body hydrated. your kidneys and liver will have a little extra work to do, and you don't want them working under dehydration.

 

[aanallein]

He doesn't want to eat the veggie sampler every night and have his balls shrivel down like an ascetic yogi on retreat.

roflmao.

 

[Rabbi]

So much bad advice in this thread

A Review of Issues of Dietary Protein
Intake in Humans

The "average" person needs 2.5-8% dietary protein to maintain health.
Yes, you will piss out excess protein. Too much protein is hard on your liver(too much fat intake too actually), and toxins from excessive amino acid metabolism canactually lead to such problems as hepatic encephalopathy.

Personally if I was eating a lb of beef daily I think I'd ask for a Lipitor chaser

There is so much bunk research and information on strength training and nutrition that it is very easy to find a study that supports any view you may have. Just because you found a study that says you only need 2.5% of your caloric intake from protein to maintain health doesn't mean that it's correct.

Just to show you the wide variety of information out there, here are a few studies that I found in 5 minutes of searching on PubMed, Journal of Nutrition and the Applied Journal of Physiology:

Beyond the Zone: Protein Requirements of Active Individuals - recommends 1.6-1.8g/kg of lbm, or at least double that recommended for sedentary individuals

Metabolic Consequences of a High Dietary-Protein Intake in Adulthood - found no change in strength and mass increase when protein intake was shifted from 1.35-2.62g/kg of lbm

Protein requirements and muscle mass/strength changes during intensive training in novice bodybuilders - found no difference in strength/mass gains in novice trainees when protein intake was doubled

This statements was also issued by the WHO on potential health problems caused by "excessive" protein intake, "there are no functional indicators that can usefully be applied in experimental situations to detect protein inadequacy before clinically detectable changes occur"


There is lots of inconsistency in data on recommended intake, just as there are widely varied opinions and supporting research on nearly every nutritional topic. This, I believe, is due mostly to the wide variance in individual metabolism, genetic potential, musclo-skeletal makeup and exercise routines. Again, just because you find one study that supports your opinion doesn't make it correct.


What I can tell you for sure is that I'm a personal trainer and I do this all day, every day. I keep meticulous records on my own and my clients' workout performance and nutrition. I can say that without exception, more protein has equaled more strength, more mass and faster recovery from workouts.

Lift hard and heavy (the squat and deadlift recommendation is dead on) and you will be dying for more protein, guaranteed.

 

[Morphling]

Right, because peer-reviewed journal articles are total garbage

The OP asked about the HEALTH consequences of eating too much protein.

This was posted in Healthy Living, yea? I'm only current with the last 40 years of research, but I guess I could be wrong?

Please back up your OPINIONS with actual science.

 

[Jabberwocky]

^ The problem with that is you end up with a very myopic picture of reality. You would have the OP eat, what? 40-60g of protein a day? He'll never build muscle and be a healthier person if he follows that advice. I eat more than that in one meal bro.

The fact remains that every single person that has gained a significant amount of lean mass will tell you with complete certainty that you NEED a pretty significant amount of protein to fuel the repair/synthesis of muscle (as per Rabbi's post above).

1g per pound of lean bodyweight works for most normal people.

but, certainly, read the scientific articles (I wouldn't be in the program I'm in if I didn't believe they had some merit). They are not the end-all-be-all source of knowledge that you seem to make them out to be though.

 

[mariacallas]

if you're going to pound down the protein, drink lots of water to keep the body hydrated. your kidneys and liver will have a little extra work to do, and you don't want them working under dehydration.

Eat lots of fiber too, in the form of vegetables and soluble-fiber sources such as psyllium husk or else... CONSTIPATION!

 

[Rabbi]

Right, because peer-reviewed journal articles are total garbage

The OP asked about the HEALTH consequences of eating too much protein.

This was posted in Healthy Living, yea? I'm only current with the last 40 years of research, but I guess I could be wrong?

Please back up your OPINIONS with actual science.

You're saying that the Journal of Applied Physiology and Journal of Nutrition aren't peer reviewed? You must be kidding.

What I'm saying is that we can argue science all day because there are studies backing up both sides of the argument. That was the point of the short list of studies that I posted. I assure you, you can find a study, even in a peer-reviewed journal, to support any view you may have on exercise or nutrition.

A low protein diet leaves a need to fill the protein with another macronutrient to fill the daily caloric needs. Just as with the low-fat diet, that macronutrient is usually carbohydrate. This is exactly what I see on a regular basis with new clients. Protein is usually around 10-15% and carbohydrate is usually 70% and up with the rest being fat.

This is exactly the diet that leads to hyperinsulinemia and all its associated health problems ranging from obesity to cancer to diabetes.

Excessive anything is unhealthy and protein is no exception. But if you're trying to gain weight/mass, you can't do it half-assed. Of course keeping up a diet with a pound of ground beef, or a gallon of milk, or whatever the person may be doing is unhealthy, but no trainer in their right mind is going to tell a client to keep it up for an extended period of time. Shovel down the meat, put on the weight, and then go back to a balanced diet.

Again, don't get all wrapped up in one article.

 

[negrogesic]

not everybody is going for the metrosexual weak pansy look.

^^Wait! I thought you were going for that A&F model look...

If you want to get huge you need to follow the rules: eat----> alot