Psychestim
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I didn’t change much from the original notes I made during the trip so you have a better understanding of how I felt during the trip. My conclusion and short TL;DR is at the bottom.
I saw it as my duty to write a trip-report for this extremely novel psychedelic amphetamine because there are less than a handful of trip-reports online and information on 3,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine (TMA a.k.a. TMA-1 ) is scarce. It was acquired from the darknet and verified by Saferparty through laboratory analysis.
Backround infos:
HR right before the experience - 68 bpm
135mg TMA [oral] / Trip Report:
T:00:00:
At 01:58 pm, I swallow a capsule containing approximately 130-140mg TMA. I’m really excited because it’s my first trip on a psychedelic amphetamine. I’m a huge fan of the 2C family and I wonder what TMA has to offer.
T:00:33:
My hands are cold but there are no effects as of yet.
T:00:50:
My hands are clammy and I notice that something is happening. My pupils are slightly dilated but still relatively normal.
T:01:02:
I still can’t pinpoint any real psychedelic effects, but I notice a slight bodyload. Stretching and yawning feels nice.
T:01:17:
No visuals and no mood improvement as of yet. We’ll see what’s going to happen next
T:01:30:
Listening to some Alan Watts Chillstep compilations and they are amazing. Intensity is still on the rise. Come-up is long, but not unpleasant. Vasoconstriction is there, but not worse than 2C-B’s.
T:01:52:
HR measured and slightly elevated, but as expected (87bpm).
I do have some stomach discomfort but it’s not unbearable and lighter than on 2C-B and -E. Probably on par with 2C-D. No nausea. I notice very slight and short-lasting entactogenic properties because I want to communicate with people and would love to trip with my gf, but she’s not here unfortunately.
T:02:02:
Finally, some visuals are appearing and it seems like the come-up is coming to an end. I can see a few kaleidoscopic patterns waving up and down when I close my eyes. No colorful or intense CEV’s like with other psychedelics but I do notice some geometry. No OEV’s so far, this aspect reminds me of 2C-D. Music is enhanced and I experience the familiar phenethylamine bodyload, but its actually not uncomfortable.
T:02:17:
I’m a little bored because not much is happening. Seems like I hit the peak of the experience but I’m at a light ++ on the Shulgin scale I would say.
T:02:44:
I do have some CEV’s but they are not really colorful and they aren’t forceful. I have to focus for the hallucinations to come out. TMA is not a really euphoric compound but it is certainly not unpleasant. As of now Im not sure where I should categorize this drug. It just isn’t good or bad but it’s neutral and some might probably call it bland. Very slight open eye changes happening like the letters are moving when I’m typing words but that’s about it. Very clear-headed, sometimes a little dysphoric but pretty controllable.
T:02:52:
I’m focussing on the CEV’s now and they are quite beautiful and very different to what I’ve previously seen with the 2C-family. Very subtle and almost shy, but visuals are definitely present. Drinking water doesn’t feel weird like on acid.
T:02:59:
It isn’t as stimulating as I thought it would be but I do notice quite significant stimulation, probably similar to 2C-B. OEV’s are basically non-existent apart from some light drifting.
T:03:11:
It is not as friendly as some other phenethylamines. It’s like 2C-B’s shy, introverted brother who isn’t as inviting or forthcoming, but also not rough or mean. Its headspace is reminiscent of other phenethylamines although being a bit more hazy like I had smoked a bit of weed.
T:03:17:
Oddly enough, my appetite is not as suppressed as with 2C-B or LSD. I ate a chocolate snack and it was delicious.
T:03:33:
This is the peak of the experience and I am fairly unimpressed so far. I do feel quite relaxed though so maybe I shouldn’t write off the experience. It does offer some unique qualities that I have not experienced with other classes, namely how the visuals appear and how they look. Also, the headspace is unique and offers some sort of introspection which might be useful for talk therapy. My mood is much more volatile/erractic than on related phenethylamines.
Heart rate is 92bpm.
T:03:46:
I take it back, TMA is not bland. It’s actually quite introspective if you let it take over you, which admittedly can be a little difficult because the effects aren’t as forceful or intense and it feels like not much is going on. I see red and pink patterns that are dancing along the music I’m listening to. Finally I’ve allowed the TMA to work its wonders and take me where it wants to.
T:04:12:
It’s not all about the visuals. This compound feels much nicer now as I have surrendered to it. I’m no longer doubting its presence or strength. TMA can quite certainly be a powerful psychedelic drug and demands respect. It is very clear-headed and subtle but still deep and introspective. I have no thought loops, but it’s still mentally challenging me a little. I want to analyze the compound but it’s not letting me, like it wants to be left alone.
T:04:21:
Laying in silent darkness now and watching a meditation music video. Pretty peaceful and lovely. The experience has settled into sth. really soothing and it feels more comfortable now. The trip is in a plataeu where it doesn’t get more intense but the effects are still very much working their charme. I’m looking forward to trying it’s brother TMA-2 in the future.
T:04:38:
Temperature regulation feels quite off with this compound and hypertension is to be expected. Now as I’m lying in my dark room I only notice the physical effects of the TMA. There are no visuals, there is no “obvious” headspace but the physical effects are quite apparent. Slight chest and head pressure appear, but it’s not too annoying. I always get headaches with the 2C-family so I expect sth. similar to happen with TMA. In all other aspects though TMA feels substantially different to the 2C family.
T:05:15:
The effects are winding down a bit. TMA is a weird one, it doesn’t shine in any category, except for novelty and for those that are seeking that it might be enjoyable, but for me personally it feels kind of lackluster, even though it’s deeper, more introspective, more mysterious and also more ominous than 2C-B/-D/-E at a comparable dose. It also feels dirtier and a little more toxic than the 2C compounds I’ve tried, but that could very well be placebo as I’m still tripping.
T:05:40:
Pupils are still widely dilated and the effects are still clearly present although it’s coming to an end. Enhanced visual acuity, stimulation and other physical side-effects remain. My appetite is not suppressed and food actually tastes good, wheras on LSD I need to force myself to eat and everything tastes like clay.
T:06:18:
Heart rate is measured at 76bpm.
Watching an episode of Scrubs. My stomach hurts a bit and I feel gassy, but nothing out of the ordinary when consuming phenethylamines.
T:06:41:
I retract, TMA doesn’t feel more toxic than other psychedelics I was just hyper-aware and sensitive, which made the physical component more apparent. I imagine it having a similar physical harm potential as MDMA or other amphetamines, but that’s just speculation. Still coming down, but I feel like it’s gonna be over soon.
T:06:58:
The main effects have pretty much faded by now but some mild stimulation and the head pressure remain.
T:07:29:
My hearing is really sensitive and there’s still the annoying pressure in my head. The experience was exhausting and I wonder what DOB or DOC must feel like after tripping a whole day.
T:11:22:
Went to bed at 01:20 am. Rest stimulation, accelerated thoughts and head pressure kept me awake for another hour.
T:~12:17:
Fell asleep around 02:15 am. For reference I can usually fall asleep after 5-15 minutes when going to bed.
The day after:
T:18:09:
Woke up at 08:07 am. Slept alright but my head still hurts a bit, which is reminiscent of other psychedelic phenethylamines. It’s not a real headache rather an annoying pressure in my brain. I gotta say though that it’s not as bad as I thought it would be.
T:20:19:
Minor headache still present but barely noticeable. Emotionally I feel fine.
Conclusion and TL;DR:
Do I recommend it? No. Is it interesting? Yes. I am excited to see how the other amphetamines perform as I have a few others waiting in line (TMA-2, DOM, DOB, DOC). IMO TMA-1 is a strange substance and it doesn’t really shine in anything except for novelty and those novelty-seekers are the only people I would recommend it to (not like anyone else would get their hands on it anyway). It’s certainly not unpleasant but not really pleasant either. In my experience TMA felt very different, more neutral, shy and unfriendlier than the 2C-x, but it was still an interesting and emotional journey I was glad to partake in. I don’t blame the TMA for the dysphoria, because that’s the nature of a trip and isn’t necessarily exclusive to this psychedelic. I had a hard time letting go in the beginning, especially because I didn’t experience any obvious effects or in-your-face visuals even though I felt its presence quite clearly and that relatively intense. I don’t have anymore TMA left and I’m in no hurry to try it again, but if I would revisit the substance I’d go for a 180-200mg dose to explore the compound fully.
Thanks for reading. Stay safe.
Edit: Time stamps were off
Tagged by Xorkoth
substancecode_tma
substancecode_amphetamines
substancecode_phenethylamines
explevel_firsttime
exptype_neutral
roacode_oral
I saw it as my duty to write a trip-report for this extremely novel psychedelic amphetamine because there are less than a handful of trip-reports online and information on 3,4,5-trimethoxyamphetamine (TMA a.k.a. TMA-1 ) is scarce. It was acquired from the darknet and verified by Saferparty through laboratory analysis.
Backround infos:
- sex: male
- weight: 76kg
- setting: at home, alone (roommate is studying in his room)
- set: a little bit tired, also a bit nervous but really curious
- tolerance: none
HR right before the experience - 68 bpm
135mg TMA [oral] / Trip Report:
T:00:00:
At 01:58 pm, I swallow a capsule containing approximately 130-140mg TMA. I’m really excited because it’s my first trip on a psychedelic amphetamine. I’m a huge fan of the 2C family and I wonder what TMA has to offer.
T:00:33:
My hands are cold but there are no effects as of yet.
T:00:50:
My hands are clammy and I notice that something is happening. My pupils are slightly dilated but still relatively normal.
T:01:02:
I still can’t pinpoint any real psychedelic effects, but I notice a slight bodyload. Stretching and yawning feels nice.
T:01:17:
No visuals and no mood improvement as of yet. We’ll see what’s going to happen next
T:01:30:
Listening to some Alan Watts Chillstep compilations and they are amazing. Intensity is still on the rise. Come-up is long, but not unpleasant. Vasoconstriction is there, but not worse than 2C-B’s.
T:01:52:
HR measured and slightly elevated, but as expected (87bpm).
I do have some stomach discomfort but it’s not unbearable and lighter than on 2C-B and -E. Probably on par with 2C-D. No nausea. I notice very slight and short-lasting entactogenic properties because I want to communicate with people and would love to trip with my gf, but she’s not here unfortunately.
T:02:02:
Finally, some visuals are appearing and it seems like the come-up is coming to an end. I can see a few kaleidoscopic patterns waving up and down when I close my eyes. No colorful or intense CEV’s like with other psychedelics but I do notice some geometry. No OEV’s so far, this aspect reminds me of 2C-D. Music is enhanced and I experience the familiar phenethylamine bodyload, but its actually not uncomfortable.
T:02:17:
I’m a little bored because not much is happening. Seems like I hit the peak of the experience but I’m at a light ++ on the Shulgin scale I would say.
T:02:44:
I do have some CEV’s but they are not really colorful and they aren’t forceful. I have to focus for the hallucinations to come out. TMA is not a really euphoric compound but it is certainly not unpleasant. As of now Im not sure where I should categorize this drug. It just isn’t good or bad but it’s neutral and some might probably call it bland. Very slight open eye changes happening like the letters are moving when I’m typing words but that’s about it. Very clear-headed, sometimes a little dysphoric but pretty controllable.
T:02:52:
I’m focussing on the CEV’s now and they are quite beautiful and very different to what I’ve previously seen with the 2C-family. Very subtle and almost shy, but visuals are definitely present. Drinking water doesn’t feel weird like on acid.
T:02:59:
It isn’t as stimulating as I thought it would be but I do notice quite significant stimulation, probably similar to 2C-B. OEV’s are basically non-existent apart from some light drifting.
T:03:11:
It is not as friendly as some other phenethylamines. It’s like 2C-B’s shy, introverted brother who isn’t as inviting or forthcoming, but also not rough or mean. Its headspace is reminiscent of other phenethylamines although being a bit more hazy like I had smoked a bit of weed.
T:03:17:
Oddly enough, my appetite is not as suppressed as with 2C-B or LSD. I ate a chocolate snack and it was delicious.
T:03:33:
This is the peak of the experience and I am fairly unimpressed so far. I do feel quite relaxed though so maybe I shouldn’t write off the experience. It does offer some unique qualities that I have not experienced with other classes, namely how the visuals appear and how they look. Also, the headspace is unique and offers some sort of introspection which might be useful for talk therapy. My mood is much more volatile/erractic than on related phenethylamines.
Heart rate is 92bpm.
T:03:46:
I take it back, TMA is not bland. It’s actually quite introspective if you let it take over you, which admittedly can be a little difficult because the effects aren’t as forceful or intense and it feels like not much is going on. I see red and pink patterns that are dancing along the music I’m listening to. Finally I’ve allowed the TMA to work its wonders and take me where it wants to.
T:04:12:
It’s not all about the visuals. This compound feels much nicer now as I have surrendered to it. I’m no longer doubting its presence or strength. TMA can quite certainly be a powerful psychedelic drug and demands respect. It is very clear-headed and subtle but still deep and introspective. I have no thought loops, but it’s still mentally challenging me a little. I want to analyze the compound but it’s not letting me, like it wants to be left alone.
T:04:21:
Laying in silent darkness now and watching a meditation music video. Pretty peaceful and lovely. The experience has settled into sth. really soothing and it feels more comfortable now. The trip is in a plataeu where it doesn’t get more intense but the effects are still very much working their charme. I’m looking forward to trying it’s brother TMA-2 in the future.
T:04:38:
Temperature regulation feels quite off with this compound and hypertension is to be expected. Now as I’m lying in my dark room I only notice the physical effects of the TMA. There are no visuals, there is no “obvious” headspace but the physical effects are quite apparent. Slight chest and head pressure appear, but it’s not too annoying. I always get headaches with the 2C-family so I expect sth. similar to happen with TMA. In all other aspects though TMA feels substantially different to the 2C family.
T:05:15:
The effects are winding down a bit. TMA is a weird one, it doesn’t shine in any category, except for novelty and for those that are seeking that it might be enjoyable, but for me personally it feels kind of lackluster, even though it’s deeper, more introspective, more mysterious and also more ominous than 2C-B/-D/-E at a comparable dose. It also feels dirtier and a little more toxic than the 2C compounds I’ve tried, but that could very well be placebo as I’m still tripping.
T:05:40:
Pupils are still widely dilated and the effects are still clearly present although it’s coming to an end. Enhanced visual acuity, stimulation and other physical side-effects remain. My appetite is not suppressed and food actually tastes good, wheras on LSD I need to force myself to eat and everything tastes like clay.
T:06:18:
Heart rate is measured at 76bpm.
Watching an episode of Scrubs. My stomach hurts a bit and I feel gassy, but nothing out of the ordinary when consuming phenethylamines.
T:06:41:
I retract, TMA doesn’t feel more toxic than other psychedelics I was just hyper-aware and sensitive, which made the physical component more apparent. I imagine it having a similar physical harm potential as MDMA or other amphetamines, but that’s just speculation. Still coming down, but I feel like it’s gonna be over soon.
T:06:58:
The main effects have pretty much faded by now but some mild stimulation and the head pressure remain.
T:07:29:
My hearing is really sensitive and there’s still the annoying pressure in my head. The experience was exhausting and I wonder what DOB or DOC must feel like after tripping a whole day.
T:11:22:
Went to bed at 01:20 am. Rest stimulation, accelerated thoughts and head pressure kept me awake for another hour.
T:~12:17:
Fell asleep around 02:15 am. For reference I can usually fall asleep after 5-15 minutes when going to bed.
The day after:
T:18:09:
Woke up at 08:07 am. Slept alright but my head still hurts a bit, which is reminiscent of other psychedelic phenethylamines. It’s not a real headache rather an annoying pressure in my brain. I gotta say though that it’s not as bad as I thought it would be.
T:20:19:
Minor headache still present but barely noticeable. Emotionally I feel fine.
Conclusion and TL;DR:
Do I recommend it? No. Is it interesting? Yes. I am excited to see how the other amphetamines perform as I have a few others waiting in line (TMA-2, DOM, DOB, DOC). IMO TMA-1 is a strange substance and it doesn’t really shine in anything except for novelty and those novelty-seekers are the only people I would recommend it to (not like anyone else would get their hands on it anyway). It’s certainly not unpleasant but not really pleasant either. In my experience TMA felt very different, more neutral, shy and unfriendlier than the 2C-x, but it was still an interesting and emotional journey I was glad to partake in. I don’t blame the TMA for the dysphoria, because that’s the nature of a trip and isn’t necessarily exclusive to this psychedelic. I had a hard time letting go in the beginning, especially because I didn’t experience any obvious effects or in-your-face visuals even though I felt its presence quite clearly and that relatively intense. I don’t have anymore TMA left and I’m in no hurry to try it again, but if I would revisit the substance I’d go for a 180-200mg dose to explore the compound fully.
Thanks for reading. Stay safe.
Edit: Time stamps were off
Tagged by Xorkoth
substancecode_tma
substancecode_amphetamines
substancecode_phenethylamines
explevel_firsttime
exptype_neutral
roacode_oral
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