Harm Reduction tips on safer insufflation (powder + water... squirted into nose)

[enoughorangejuice?]

anyone know of a thread made for this already?

i'm trying to figure out the safest way to insufflate.

i figured it would be using crushed pill powder that would normally be snorted, mixing that with water until it dissolves then drawing it up into an oral syringe and squirting that into the nose.

my goal is to avoid any health risks or powder going into my lungs.


any tips/info appreciated.

 

[4fOhmeohmy]

That seems to be a decent method, but I wouldn't worry about powder in your lungs or anything like that. Snorting is a decently safe method of action and as long as you aren't do anything to caustic you don't have to worry about septum perforation.

However this is only off the top advice, please someone correct me if you have better advice.

 

[tricomb]

Well, for example with the old Opana, snorting that had a correlation in the long term with silicosis due to inhalation of the fine particles of the pill.

So yeah, just because something isn't caustic doesn't negate other risks associated with intranasal inhalation of fine powders including all the inactive ingredients.

The safer thing to do would be create an aqueous solution, as you mentioned, with saline preferably as it is less irritating on your epithelial membranes, but water would work too.

 

[enoughorangejuice?]

Well, for example with the old Opana, snorting that had a correlation in the long term with silicosis due to inhalation of the fine particles of the pill.

So yeah, just because something isn't caustic doesn't negate other risks associated with intranasal inhalation of fine powders including all the inactive ingredients.

The safer thing to do would be create an aqueous solution, as you mentioned, with saline preferably as it is less irritating on your epithelial membranes, but water would work too.

Yeah, I've heard that snorting certain binders/fillers in pills can cause a number of lung-related problems, all of which are extremely serious. I assume SOME powder you snort ends up being inhaled into your lungs, no?

If you dissolve some powder in 1cc of warm/saline solution and sniff/squirt it into your nose will it have the same effect as if you snorted just powder?

 

[tricomb]

Yes, a lot of it ends up in your lungs, you're inhaling a powder, your nose was not designed to filter those amounts of particulate matter.

You're better off with saline.

 

[Bone14]

With this method you will probably end up getting all the liquid down the hatch and not the muscus membranes. I've tried it, it all ended down the hatch.

 

[The.Ghost]

There are two threads on BL about snorting powders without getting anything into your lungs (AFAIK):

The bendy-straw method

my method: Lung safe snorting

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[tricomb]

^Bendy straw method makes me lol.

With this method you will probably end up getting all the liquid down the hatch and not the muscus membranes. I've tried it, it all ended down the hatch.

Not if you don't insufflate too hard and use a small amount of saline.

 

[Cane2theLeft]

You could also further reduce the harm by filtering the drug... preferably with micron filters but even cotton is better than nothing.

Filtering your drug, making a saline solution and spraying your dose into your nose instead of 'snorting' it will go a long way in minimizing the harm but of course nothing can make it completely safe or free of risks.

 

[Intrinsic man]

You could also further reduce the harm by filtering the drug... preferably with micron filters but even cotton is better than nothing.

Filtering your drug, making a saline solution and spraying your dose into your nose instead of 'snorting' it will go a long way in minimizing the harm but of course nothing can make it completely safe or free of risks.

Would this still be viable with pharmaceutical opiates that contain no other additives such as acetaminophen? I'm guessing the binders wouldn't do much harm

 

[Cane2theLeft]

You think inhaling binders into your lungs won't do much harm? It someone is a regular user and inhales a lot of shit into their lungs, it very well could give them problems.

Your lungs aren't that great at filtering out pill particles.

 

[tricomb]

Not at all, inhaling inactive ingredients into your lungs is just as bad as IV drug users not filtering their shots properly.

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[Intrinsic man]

You think inhaling binders into your lungs won't do much harm? It someone is a regular user and inhales a lot of shit into their lungs, it very well could give them problems.

Your lungs aren't that great at filtering out pill particles.

I was referring to the damage done to the inner membranes of the nose as well as the septum. Does filtration prior to insufflation make a difference?

 

[Cane2theLeft]

^ the amount of damage is largely proportionate to the amount of material you shove up there as well as what type of material. If you can substantially reduce the amount of material you are putting up there, you can reduce the amount of damage to the mucus membranes and septum as well.

If you are snorting roxi for example, the entire pill weighs about 130mg and only 30mg are active. If you snort 5 a day that is 15 grams of material per month beyond the active ingredient... of course that extra 15 grams of material per month is going to cause more irritation and damage to the mucus membranes and septum than if you filter out a substantial portion of the inactive ingredients.

 

[tricomb]

Filtering always makes a difference. There's no excuse for not filtering properly, it's extremely easy to at the very least run it through a Q-tip prefilter, then through a sterifilt or compacted cotton to get rid of larger particles.