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Time Dilation

LSA probably gave me the worst time dilation so far, although the dose was far larger compared to the other substances.
 
I have experienced Time Dilation while on Ecstasy before. It happens though only when I'm listening to music. I'll be so into the song, that I'll just glance at my CD player or whatever device I'm listening too, and it feels like alot more time has passed than what really has.
 
^ yeah, HBWR seeds were the first psychedelic I tried, and I found that I experienced MASSIVE time dilation. This being my first experience, I assumed that all psychedelics had this effect. Since that time, I've had the opportunity to try quite a few other psychs and have discovered that I haven't really experienced this effect very much at all from any other substance.
On HBWR seeds, I almost found the time dilation effect to be annoying, because it really felt like it extended the length of the trip, and sometimes that was not desired, especially if things weren't going my way in the trip.
 
At least once during every high-dose LSD experience, I come to a point where there is cosmic stillness. I begin to see time as a stationary dimension like the three spatial dimensions; there is no longer any progression of phenomena, not even CEVS, there is just stillness and light. This usually comes at the peak of the experience and usually lasts no longer than an hour in earth-time(depending on dose, obviously). But when I'm in that void, subjectively I experience eternities. Whole evolutions and dissolutions of world systems, life-cycles of whole galaxies and myriad universes come and go -- and when I come-to from this void, I almost always have retrograde amnesia regarding the experience; however, it slowly pieces itself back together in my mind as I come down.

That's seriously heaven right there. <3

Strange things, these tryptamine psychedelics....
 
Once on a fairly high dose of DXM (at least for me at the time) I spent eternity waiting in a hallway for my friend to get out of the bathroom. Of course, he was on DXM, so maybe that's not completely impossible...
 
my first acid trip i looked at the clock, remembered the time, shut my eyes for what felt like days i open them to see only 2 minutes have passed...
 
LSD has produced the greatest experience of time dilation for me.

There was recently a closely related question posed inside a 2C-B-fly trip report by dreamguy. It was:

Frames per second thoughts:
I had the thought that our TVs show at 24-30 frames per second which is parallel to how much information our brains can take in at one second. Birds and many other animals whose lives are shorter seem to move so much faster
than us. Could it be possible they take in many more frames of information per second than humans? If this is true, this could mean their lives are relatively much longer based on those passing moments (or frames).

dreamguy seamed to be interested in my response, so I'll give it here in case it expands the topic for anyone.

psood0nym said:
This is a fascinating question, and you asked, so I'll give you the gist of what I've learned about it.

There have been cases of stroke sufferers that suffer motion blindness. For example, during a conversation a victim of one of these stokes may hear another's voice and be perfectly able to follow a conversation, yet never see the person's lips move, instead occasionally taking in a single frozen visual frame. In these cases only visual consciousness is staggered, but there are other disorders where, for instance, a victim can observe a sink being filled in preparation for doing the dishes at a point when the water is only a few centimeters high, and next see it overflowing as the water spills on their feet, in effect starling their "projector" into rolling again.

Studies of lucid dreamers who are able to use simple signals to communicate with researchers while dreaming indicate that we take in information at the roughly same rate while dreaming as we do while awake. This means that when we dream that more time has passed during the night ("It seemed like a week had passed") than is actually possible, it is because we have a sense of time that is at least partially independent of the true density of content in our experience. Therefore, even if we, or animals, could experience more "frames of time per second," it would not necessarily mean our lives would feel subjectively longer.

In a truly profound experiment conducted by a team led by Antoine Lutz at the University of Wisconsin, it was found that the human brain is so malleable to the dictates of the mind that, through thought alone, we can increase the frame rate of consciousness itself.

If a series of letters interspersed with two consecutive numbers is played very fast on a projector (such as: f-u-m-h-u-6-4-t-s), and a viewer is asked to relay the numbers she saw, more often than not the second number is not perceived. It is theorized that the recognition of the first number absorbs the great bulk of perceptual resources and the second number is veiled in unconsciousness—as though the participant's own internal projector light blows its fuse and cannot be replaced soon enough to flash for the next frame in time.

An intensive three-month training program in focused attention meditation overseen by the researchers and extensively trained monks created experiment volunteers that were able to perceive the second number at significantly higher frequencies than before their training, or compared to those uninitiated to the mental technique but with similar practice at the projector game. The training consists, in essence, of simply focusing on an external object, such as a mark on the wall, or a specific sensation, such as breathing, to the exclusion of all else--very diligently.

Lutz and his research group concluded that the training resulted in a reallocation of finite perceptual resources so that, in the brain of the participant, those perceptual resources were more evenly distributed, and could, after training, be accessed in time to illuminate the second number with consciousness.
 
With serotonogic psychedelics, my personal opinion is that the time dilation occurs because we're used to judging time from the amount of external srtimulus perceived. With say LSD, you get such a flood of sensory input that in a minute you get more tan possibly an hour normally. Because of that, the brain goes,"whoa, all of that couldn't have happened in 5 minutes" so that for example 5 minutes feels like 1 hour
 
With 5-meo-dmt, time stopped for me. I couldn't believe that the trip lasted only like 8 minutes.
 
fastandbulbous said:
With serotonogic psychedelics, my personal opinion is that the time dilation occurs because we're used to judging time from the amount of external srtimulus perceived. With say LSD, you get such a flood of sensory input that in a minute you get more tan possibly an hour normally. Because of that, the brain goes,"whoa, all of that couldn't have happened in 5 minutes" so that for example 5 minutes feels like 1 hour

Yeah, this has been my theory.

Or else there is some sort of biological "clock" that ticks within our brain, and LSD speeds up the clock... I favor the former theory though.
 
ive had weird time dilation on dxm. on 900 mgs i watched some anime show and i could swear i was watching the first 4 or 5 minutes of this show over and over again for what felt like 4 or 5 hours. i snap out of this trance and i was like oh good it feels like its been a few hours so the trip should be nearly done i look at my clock its like 12:05 in the morning and the last time i looked just minutes ago it was like 12:00. really weird shit as sooon as i figured out i was in for another solid 7 or 8 hours of tripping i was like fuuuuck:!
 
Time dilation is one of the most interesting phenomenom. What is going on in the brain when this happens?

MXE does this pretty frequently for me, and when you throw some cannabis there it just seems like everything stops.
 
Time Dilation is part of the key to understanding psychedelic consciousness.
Our sense of time passing is geared directly to mind moments arising and passing regularly.
this means that:
All the mental contents of one moment of time normally fade away within 1/15th of a second and are replaced by new mental contents.
Some of the next moment continues sensations or thoughts of the previous mind moment because the world is feeding in sensations continuously.
This is the texture of time that we sense as normal time passing.

When we get stoned each mind moment fades more slowly, but they still keep arising on cue (every 15th of a second) so mental contents stack up (become layered). Dimensions may be sensed, or just the feeling of mind expansion begins.

When it is more than 8 layers (i.e. fadeout is ~1/2 second) you will see trails and your skin will change in texture, colors will be richer etc.

When it is more than 20 layers, the sense of time passing begins to be seriously disrupted, even though the stack is just over one second deep the linkages branch to time events that go back further and time moves like molasses, or if you trip out, then time slams forward and seems to be running much more quickly.

More than 30 layers you get semi-independent personalities floating in your head - like entities, and you can take either side and talk to the other which will seem to be autonomous.

More than that (~45 layers), and time just stops, it can run backwards, it can run forwards and it does not much matter because your identity is dismantled.

More than that and you black or white out, nothing makes any sense in any way signal density has become too thick.
 
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