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thoughts on the 'indigo' phenomena?

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aka, the indigo children... i have reason to believe that i am an indigo myself, and have done some slight research (if googling counts as research.) i was wondering though, if anybody else here has any indigo-type characteristics, any reasons to believe or not to believe in such a theory, or any interesting tidbits that they may have found during their own research.

so far, i've read that:
-indigos can fit in anywhere but chose not to to avoid any karmic backfiring associated with a certain group, like rednecks for instance. an indigo might view rednecks as reckless with other life-forms, and might want to keep that stereotype off of their conscience. this is me.
-indigos typically come from broken homes and the homes of alcoholics, which may be where they learned their empathetic skills, but i've also read that;
-indigos may also lack empathetic skills and may come off as quite harsh.
-indigos, (and this is what interests me the most,) on some spiritual level or another, chose to be here, now, on earth, to teach.

if anybody has any thoughts or experiences on this, please share here. thanks!
 
So Indigos take on the responsibility of the actions of those around and their conscience is an amalgamation of everything they've witnessed?
The type of life you're born into and choose to remain in makes you an Indigo? So if you leave your broken home at a young age or are born into a good home you're less likely to be an Indigo?
So Indigos have this immense empathy but don't care for it? They are aware of the pain of others but indifferent to their pain?
Oh no, sorry, so you're saying they either learn to be empathetic or they don't? That's not exclusive to Indigos, that's human nature.
 
you make many good points. i am not saying those things however, but understand that many of these are characteristics of indigos. there are also other characteristics, like: dreaming things before they happen, knowing certain details about other people that they would naturally have no way of knowing, and having vivid recollections of past lives. also, being indigo does not mean that anything is exclusive to you, it means that you're simply more able to channel energy from unknown sources. anybody can do this, it just comes more easily to some than others. what i want to know though, is more on a spiritual level, not so much whether one "indigo" or another was born into an alcoholic home or not. i want to know more about the 'choosing to be here,' and having 'something to teach.' color aside, have you ever noticed how certain people have more of a 'teaching' spirit than others? and that some have more of a 'learning'? because if the so called 'indigo children' are supposed to have anything to teach, then this should be more emphasized than the classification of indigo itself.
 
delusional nonsense. worth comes through effort, not magical blessings.
 
I'm really into esoteric knowledge but the first time I read about indigo children the first thing I thought was: scam. They have entire workshops and organizations based on this new age non-sense. Now there is the new version of this, called crystal children. It always seems to be one ponzi scheme after another.

I do think there are many gifted children out there, some of them psychic, but segregating them into a new category and even feeding them this delusion is wrong. But I guess a sucker is born every minute and people need to believe in something if they really don't understand their place in the world.
 
as long as it uses ego-feeding fluffyduffy names like "indigo" and "crystal" i will know it is all bullshit.
 
As far as your post PIP, when there are more people there are going to be more instances of everything. When we make new classifications/types of Autism.
All of this is a result of society and genetics, not stars.
The stars have nothing to do with the characteristics someone has.
What does someones desire/aptitude to teach have to do with mystical magical stars and shit?
What does any characteristic have to do with stars, other than believing stars play some vital role in humanity (excludes the sun for any smartarses)
This is almost as ridiculous as horoscopes, it's the same fundamental notion just implemented differently.
 
When the first two hyperlinks on a Wikipedia article are "supernatural" and "pseudoscientific", we've got ourselves a problem. And the indigo and crystal children thing was pretty much started by some lady in the 70s. Your kid's not autistic or attention-deficit, he's a crystal or an indigo child! The whole thing is absolutely crazy
 
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pip, consider it momentarily this way please.

irrespective of scientific truth, think about the consequences of identifying such children. being so "chosen" would create both a sense of entitlement and destiny. neither of these encourage positive efforts from these children. it would be far more constructive to focus on the specific skills and attributes of any child to encourage them individually. not to mention pride and arrogance that come with such ideas of superiority.

so, IF there is some celestial event taking place empowering a large number of children, by labelling them like through these questionable practices you are likely to REDUCE the effective use of their abilities.

I would also go further to note the hazard it also creates in developing mental illness.
 
I think that many of the phenomena they describe are normal perceptions for humans to have if they so choose to. Labeling it "indigo" is like putting some weed in a bag and calling it Elephant Dick or Jelloberry or some stupid shit. The content is the same, but the label is so fucking unappealing I want nothing to do with it.

I frequently think that I have dreams before events happen, but logically that doesn't make sense so I ignore it cuz it aint going to put food on the table and tbh, it doesn't really matter if I do or I don't because it is impossible, and I know that. Just one example of an instance where a choice to explore an idea like that can lead to thinking you can see radio waves or something.
 
Can you name the four stars and which houses they are in? I do astrology and I haven't heard of this. (I'm curious.)
 
panic in paradise said:
I assume this is the first time you have heard of this, those who have been studying it for numerous years are fully aware of the origins of the term. Many people will believe that the indigo label comes from the color of their aura, but it does not, an indigo or purple auric field is indicative of their own thing, I personally can not see auroras but it is not my concern.
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Ugh, don't assume. And you assumed wrong. The way that these types of beliefs start and spread fascinates me, so I've read a good deal. And you're also presupposing I believe that people have auras, which barring any synesthesic effects, I am hard-pressed to believe due to the pretty much zero evidence. Oh, and before I begin arguing way too much and lose everyone, here's a list of 23 indigo children traits - take the quiz! And see how terribly generic these traits are. I scored 17/23, so apparently I'm an indigo child too. (There's this as well.)

Here's a great piece of off BeliefNet, which is also really gentle and doesn't disparage these parents. The author seems mostly concerned with what the belief says about their parents, who are mostly baby-boomers. Although some of the language coming from the adult indigo children worries me in its self-satisfaction:

"I always knew I belonged here on Earth, and I always had a deep-seated universal knowledge of how things really work and who I really was. Yet, with grand humor, I chose to grow up with people in situations and places that reflected absolutely none of my sense of self. Can you begin to see the infinite possibilities for fun in this play I chose to come into? . I felt like a king working for a peasant, viewed as a slave."
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I don't even have a comment. I'm just blown away. (If they do manage to "use their warrior spirits...to banish our existing educational, government, legal, and health-care systems, which do not work" with their third-eye chakras, I'll be way too happy even care about the science here)
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Here is Jenny McCarthy, notable for convincing parents that the whole vaccine thing should be thrown out the window (because apparently we're in a rush to have a good old-fashioned plague), on how she learned about indigo children:

The day I found out I was an adult Indigo will stay with me forever. I was walking hand in hand with my son down a Los Angeles street when this women approached me and said, “You’re an Indigo and your son is a Crystal.” I immediately replied, “Yes!” and the woman smiled at me and walked away...After doing some of my own research on the word Indigo, I realized not only was I an early Indigo but my son was in fact a Crystal child. From that point on things in my life started to make sense. I always wondered why I was a ball-buster and rule breaker on TV, and at that moment I knew exactly why. I was born to not only think outside the box, but to break that box up into a million pieces. I called this day my “awakening” but really it was the day I remembered.
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Read: some lady told Jenna something and she decided to immediately adopt an extraordinary theory she had never heard of because it sounded nice.

And here's a painfully unskeptical article from the NYT that has me gritting my teeth so hard I can't even comment. I agree with the people complaining that school's are not right for everyone and that kids are overmedicated - school should not be homogenous, and ADD/ADHD is being overdiagnosed - but that's as far as I'm agreeing with them.

Finally, this is where I first heard about this, and the beginning refers to Jenny McCarthy's now inexistant website for parents of indigo children, which the author supposes was taken down because she didn't want press to be weird in light of her book release. Great article, it's a good read, and very informative.

It's a very silly New Age belief which peaked in popularity in the late 90s, and now no one seems to talk about it anymore. Because people are fickle, and there will always be some new supernatural bullshit for the general public to buy into. And I don't mean to sound insensitive to the average believer - I'm mostly just angry at the proponents of this shit that make money off of selling books, speaking at conventions or on TV, etc., all at the expense of the people they lure in.
 
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There are definitely people who closely fit the "Indigo" characteristics, and some of the theories on what make people this way are valid. For one example, research does show that people with troubled childhoods and difficult parents do either end up extremely empathic or - perhaps less often - seemingly borderline sociopathic (doesn't mean they are, perhaps they've just blocked empathy out as a survival mechanism). But personally I don't feel a need to subscribe to a label and/or dogma in order to have an identity. You can look to your genetic predispositions and, more importantly, your environment/upbringing/society if you want to understand why you are the way you are, you don't have to be some special breed. It's just a label. Many people want something to belong to.
 
panic in paradise said:
The George Orwell book 1984 documents, in its own foreboding way, the first wave of this in the late 1800's, and what their personal perspective of the world around them; 1984 was the date chosen because of the foreknowledge of the event in various ways which relied greatly on astrology; since ~1880 the re-arrival of various large asteroids and the preliminary shift in fixed stars, which has recently happened.
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Sorry PIP, I'm an absolute Orwell freak, and I have to rebut your astrological claim here. Orwell was a linguist/political philosopher, there is no mention of astrology in anything he has written about his own work. I'm not sure where you read the above about the title of 1984 (or if you came to your own astrological conclusions?), but the book was finished in 1948 (just after the beginning of the cold war), and was written due to Orwell's disillusionment regarding the world's state of constant war/pre-war, which is one of its major themes. It is speculated that he wanted to call the book 1948 to reflect his (then) current feelings on the world, but inverted the 4 and the 8: 1984 to create a vision of a dystopian future.

I dig what you're saying, but I'm not buying it when it comes to the origin of the 1984's title.

L2R said:
Worth comes through effort, not magical blessings.
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I think this is a fair appraisal of the issue.

Swimmingdancer said:
You can look to your genetic predispositions and, more importantly, your environment/upbringing/society if you want to understand why you are the way you are, you don't have to be some special breed. It's just a label. Many people want something to belong to.
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+1

However, we have to add our experience of existence to the list, too. It's through exercising our will that we choose our experiences, and by doing so, can consciously create changes in who we are.

The idea that someone is 'indigo', or any other such label, is incredibly egotistical. I would think that pure humility would have to the number one characteristic of a more 'evolved' (for lack of a better word) being. The idea that people are born more advanced or special than others is narcissism waiting to happen. I've known many a self-serving fuck-up to turn their lives around and become amazing (some might even say special) people. And conversely, I've seen many special people with everything going for them become monsters.

The colour indigo is associated with Ajna, or the third eye, in the yogic traditions. Being associated with a 'higher' level of consciousness; the one that pertains to 'seeing' or 'clairvoyance', it appeals to the ego that wants to be more advanced, special, clairvoyant, in short, superhuman.

It's an excellent marketing tool in the 'New Age'.
 
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yagecero said:
The idea that someone is 'indigo', or any other such label, is incredibly egotistical. I would think that pure humility would have to the number one characteristic of a more 'evolved' (for lack of a better word) being. The idea that people are born more advanced or special than others is narcissism waiting to happen. I've known many a self-serving fuck-up to turn their lives around and become amazing (some might even say special) people. And conversely, I've seen many special people with everything going for them become monsters.
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perfectly stated.
 
i don't mean to be disrespecting your beliefs, pip. you know i respect you. i just don't agree with this stuff. people with nothing challenging or really pressing them tend to steer towards artifical things which make them feel unique. it's a cultural thing found in societies which encourage individualism.
 
L2R said:
perfectly stated.
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I agree :)

Although I don't personally know enough about the indigo to judge whether that is what exactly is going on on how most people who identify as indigo view themselves. I just don't see the need for labels and nearly everyone has some spectrum of indigo traits.
 
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