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^ That's kinda how drug testing works, Wahslab ;)

I presume it would be similar to alcohol tests - a positive result "in the field" would have to be confirmed by a more precise test back at the station. Can't see it being overly practical really for the reasons mentioned above - way too blunt an instrument. Would imagine it would have similar problems to when similar on the spot drug tests have been tried at pubs and clubs - just impractical cos almost everyone fails :D
 
Yeh, I have been drug tested a few times, know they work on metabolites. I just assumed it was a good idea and would work the same as an alcohol and would only come up possitive if you were high?
 
How would saliva know how high you are though? You either have drugs in your system or not and - as mentioned - a heavy cannabis smoker could test postive for cannabis for up to a month after stopping smoking. Most other drugs you would test positive for for up to three days (some even longer) since using. Alcohol has a pretty short half-life and you are allowed a small amount in your system anyway to allow for this - it's one reason why the legal limit isn't zero. Illegal drugs are just plain illegal so any amount - however small - would result in prosecution presumably :\
 
In which case a lot of innocent people are going to get fucked for a drug they took at weekend, when it's several days later. I can't see that device being used for long.
 
Isn't it in their interest to use it even if it isn't fair? I mean... don't they meet quotas/make money from how many arrests/fines/prosecutions etc. that they make?

Drugs are illegal so I can see them justifying it's use whether or not the 'druggies' think it's fair...
 
Anti-drugs 'robocop' died from overdose
By Chris Greenwood, Press Association
The Independent

A police officer known for his work tackling drug dealers was found dead at his home from a heroin overdose.

Pc David Pilling, 47, was found by colleagues collapsed in the lounge of his flat near Regent's Park, in Camden, north London.

They discovered various items of drug paraphernalia beside him, including a Stanley knife, traces of heroin and a syringe.

An inquiry was launched and toxicology tests revealed the officer died from a massive overdose of heroin.

Detectives based at Camden CID found no suspicious circumstances and the case was handed to a coroner.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said a coroner sitting at St Pancras Coroner's Court recorded a verdict of death by misadventure earlier this week.

Colleagues said Mr Pilling was renowned for his work tackling drug dealers operating in busy Camden shopping streets.

One local newspaper reported that Mr Pilling earned the nickname of Robocop for his all-action style of policing.

Camden Borough Commander Chief Superintendent Dominic Clout said the dedicated officer is sadly missed.

He said: "Pc Pilling was a truly valued member of staff who proved popular with colleagues and members of the local community.

"He had served all 13 years of his service with Camden borough and, as a Safer Neighbourhoods officer, built strong links with residents of the Holborn and Covent Garden ward.

"As a result of the ongoing investigation into his death, detailed forensic tests have revealed that Pc Pilling died of a heroin overdose.

"Clearly, Pc Pilling displayed no signs of drug use while at Camden borough and his colleagues and supervisors were unaware of any issues relating to drugs.

"The Met does operate an alcohol and substance misuse policy which includes random screening of serving officers.

"While we will always support and actively seek help for colleagues who alert us of potential problems through challenging or difficult times, we will never tolerate the use of drugs amongst officers and will deal with any reported cases severely."

Mr Pilling died on March 26 at his home in Albany Street, NW1.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/antidrugs-robocop-died-from-overdose-1768982.html
 
Taxpayer funds £20,000 court case to prosecute man for stealing 25p banana... and he is found not guilty

A man prosecuted for stealing a 25p banana has been cleared after a trial which cost the taxpayer £20,000.

James Gallagher, 23, was accused of stealing the fruit from the Del Villagio restaurant in Birmingham's Bullring shopping centre.

But a jury at Birmingham Crown Court jurors took less than half an hour to find him not guilty of burglary and a lesser charge of theft.

Speaking after the verdict was delivered, Mr Gallagher said: 'It's shocking, it's just a waste of taxpayers' money. I cannot understand how they've got away with it.'

Recorder Mr Shamim Qureshi told the jury before they delivered their verdict: 'It is easy sometimes to think "What is this case doing at the crown court?"

'Today is day two - this theoretically has cost £20,000.

'Our criminal legal system in this country is second to none when compared to many other legal systems around the world, it enables the person to come to the crown court and say I want to be tried by my peers.

'The allegation is one which is burglary and that is always a serious allegation no matter what is alleged to have been stolen in the burglary itself.

'It is fairly easy to make lots of jokes, but do remember it is a serious allegation that the defendant faces.'

Mr Gallagher, who lives in Handsworth, Birmingham, said he was relieved and had chosen a crown court trial because he expected magistrates would have found him guilty.

Mr Gallagher was charged with burglary contrary to the Theft Act.

He was accused of entering the Italian restaurant with Christopher Ogelsby, 22, at 8.45am on March 13 when its deli was not due to open until 10am, and stole a banana.

The jury heard that the shutters at Del Villagio were halfway up and after seeing a member of staff in the store, Mr Gallagher and Ogelsby went underneath them into the store and picked up bananas.

They were already being watched by security officers and were apprehended almost immediately before being arrested.

Ogelsby pleaded guilty to burglary at Birmingham Magistrates Court on March 14 and was given a 12-month conditional discharge.

In Mr Gallagher's defence, Mr Niall Skinner told the court he and Ogelsby were tipsy after drinking until the early hours to celebrate Mr Gallagher's birthday two days before.

He said he had not been given the chance to pay for the goods, even though he had money on him, because the security team had acted and accused him so quickly.

Martin Lindop, district crown prosecutor for Birmingham Crown Prosecution Service, said: 'The Crown Prosecution Service recommended that this matter was suitable to be dealt with in the magistrates' court.

'However, Mr James Gallagher elected trial by jury, as is his right, so the case was heard in the crown court.

'It is not the cost of the item that determines whether we proceed with a prosecution, but whether there is sufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction and it is in the public interest.

'In this case, we felt that there was sufficient evidence and it was in the public interest for the prosecution to proceed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rosecute-man-stealing-25p-banana--guilty.html
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You couldn't make this shit up! Well maybe it is - Daily Fail after all...
 
Ali to visit ancestral Irish home

Ali to visit ancestral Irish home

(UKPA) – 19 hours ago

Boxing legend Muhammad Ali will visit his ancestral Irish home next month, it has been confirmed.

The former world heavyweight champion has accepted an invitation to see the birthplace of his great-grandfather in Ennis, Co Clare, on September 1. He is due to visit Dublin for a charity event the previous day.

Members of Ennis Town Council are expected to make the 67-year-old, who is fighting Parkinson's disease, the first Honorary Freeman of Ennis Town during his trip.
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5h67mGfG4s6CvwzPvkKe0q8OOPT-Q

Everybody's fucking Irish:D

I lived there for two years, awhile back.
 
A request to snoop on public every 60 secs

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...uest-to-snoop-on-public-every-60-seconds.html

Councils, police and other public bodies are seeking access to people’s private telephone and email records almost 1,400 times a day, new figures have disclosed.


By Tom Whitehead and James Kirkup
Published: 10:00PM BST 09 Aug 2009
A request to snoop on public every 60 seconds
Councils have been accused of using the powers, which were originally intended to tackle terrorism and organised crime, for trivial matters such as littering and dog fouling Photo: AP

The authorities made more than 500,000 requests for confidential communications data last year, equivalent to spying on one in every 78 adults, leading to claims that Britain had “sleepwalked into a surveillance society”.

An official report also disclosed that hundreds of errors had been made in these “interception” operations, with the wrong phone numbers or emails being monitored.



The figures will fuel concerns over the use of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act by public bodies.

The Act gives authorities – including councils, the police and intelligence agencies – the power to request access to confidential communications data, including lists of telephone numbers dialled and email addresses to which messages have been sent.

Councils have been accused of using the powers, which were originally intended to tackle terrorism and organised crime, for trivial matters such as littering and dog fouling. Only last month, it emerged that councils and other official bodies had used hidden tracking devices to spy on members of the public.

The latest figures were compiled by Sir Paul Kennedy, the interception of communications commissioner, who reviews requests made under the Act. They relate to monitoring communication “traffic” – such as who is contacting whom, when and where and which websites are visited, but not the content of conversations or messages themselves.

Sir Paul found that last year a total of 504,073 such requests were made. The vast majority were made by the police and security services but 123 local councils made a total of 1,553 requests for communications data. Some councils sought lists of the telephone numbers that people had dialled.

Amid growing unease about surveillance powers, ministers issued new guidelines last year about their use. Despite the promised crackdown, the 2008 figure is only slightly lower than 2007’s 519,260 requests.

In April, the Home Office said it would go ahead with plans to track every phone call, email, text message and website visit made by the public, in order to combat terrorists and other criminals.

Chris Huhne, Liberal Democrat home affairs spokesman, said: “It cannot be a justified response to the problems we face in this country that the state is spying on half a million people a year.

“We have sleepwalked into a surveillance state but without adequate safeguards.”

Sir Paul found 595 errors in interception requests last year, including mistakes by MI5 and MI6, the intelligence agencies.

However, he defended councils over their use of the Act, concluding: “It is evident that good use is being made of communications data to investigate the types of offences that cause harm to the public.”

His report even encourages councils to acquire more communications data, saying that “local authorities could often make more use of this powerful tool to investigate crimes”.

A Home Office spokesman said: “It’s vital that we strike the right balance between individual privacy and collective security and that is why the Home Office is clear these powers should only be used when they are proportionate.”
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Britain's laziness epidemic

Forget swine flu - laziness epidemic sweeps across Britain.

By Alex Stevenson

Britain is in the grips of a laziness epidemic from which no one - not even the government - is immune.

Research by the Nuffield Trust has revealed the truth extent to which Britain has become slothful. It claims ministers' efforts to prevent the obesity crisis escalating out of control have had little effect.

A third of respondents said they were too lazy to catch a bus. Half of dog-owners said they couldn't be bothered to take their pet for a walk. Three-quarters of couples are 'too tired' to engage in horizontal exercise after a hard day at work.

Dr Sarah Dauncey, the Nuffield Trust's medical director, said: "Ready-meals, remote controls and even internet shopping are all contributing to a dangerously lazy and idle Britain."

"The nation has fallen into a vicious circle of laziness that we must put a stop to."

Unfortunately the government, which is trying its best to prevent over half of all adults becoming obese by 2050, has suffered its own inability to take action.

Sustain, the alliance for food and farming, has accused ministers of failing to put their rhetoric about sustainability into action.

Later this morning the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs will publish its one-year update to its Food Matters agenda.

But Sustain has revealed food procurement in the public sector leaves much to be desired on these issues.

At least the government has offered assistance to concerned parents, two-thirds of whom (according to the Nuffield Trust) are too tired to play with their children.

Those looking after new-borns aged between five and eight months can save on time by taking advice from the government's new BabyLifeCheck website, launched today.
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Lazy Brits:D

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/health/britain-s-laziness-epidemic-$1317327.htm
 
"Spice" to be banned

A legal herbal drug which is sold around the country is to be banned after studies showed that it is as powerful as some strains of strong cannabis.

Spice, a herbal smoking mixture, is sold on the internet and in “head shops” as a legal high and nicotine-free smoke. In some cases it is even advertised as an “aromatic pot pourri”.

The smoking mixture, which has synthetic additives, comes slickly packaged in sealed pouches — holding just under an ounce — at a cost of about £30.

Although it purports to be an entirely natural mix of herbs and plants including Baybean and vanilla, the marijuana-type high that users get from Spice comes from a synthetic cannabinoid four or five times as potent as THC, the main psyschoactive substance in cannabis.

Today the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, the Government’s official drug adviser, will recommend to Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, that Spice be added to the list of prohibited drugs.

Ministers are then expected to bring forward legislation in the autumn to ban the drug. The decision to recommend a ban on Spice is likely to be followed by action to outlaw other legal highs.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6792687.ece
 
^I'm sure that will stop someone bringing out another smoking blend, with a new name. Idiots.
 
whoremoaning said:
4-methylmethcathinone is a stimulant described as giving experiences similar to crystal meth.
Lulz
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That's not such a stupid thing to say. It has the same ability to take 3 days out of your life without you particularly noticing. People are going to learn this.
 
Drugalyser - your eyes will give you away

Drug drivers are to be targeted from Monday in the Government's first national TV campaign costing £2.3million with the warning - 'your eyes will give you away'.

It comes as new research showed that one in 10 young male drivers admit to driving after taking illegal drugs. One in five drivers killed in road accidents may have an impairing drug in their system.

The first TV advert will be shown on Monday before Coronation Street.

It will point out that 'once a driver has been stopped, their eyes will give them away because of the obvious and involuntary effects drugs have on the body'.

It will explain why cannabis users don't like to overtake, and cocaine users drive aggressively at high speed.

Anyone convicted of driving while unfit through drugs will get a minimum 12 months driving ban, a criminal record and a large fine.

A protype roadside 'drugalyser' device developed by Concateno in conjunction with Philips is to seek type approval. It can detect the presence of six different drugs - including cannabis, ecstasy, heroin, cocaine - from a single saliva sample in just 90 seconds.

Detailed specifications are expected from the Home Office and Forensic Science Service within the next few months and experts predict roadside tests could become a reality within two to five years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ide-tests.html
 
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