This is my first day on this site and I really need some advice or support

[Want2change]

Hey everyone I have been using H for about a year and a half and go through a g every 2 days but the past 2 days I have been trying to taper off and then go off cold turkey. I have a job love going surfing and hanging with friends and I just really want to be clean and happy so I have to stop for good. On top of that though no one really knows what I am going through so I have to deal with this all by myself and unfortunately I have no money left and no insurance so I really have nothing to go cold turkey with I'm just wondering what I should do I don't want to go to the hospital for high blood pressure or something or risk having a seizure. I'm new so I doubt anyone will reply but if there is someone out there...help..

 

[Want2change]

And for the record I don't shoot it or snort it never stuck a needle in my arm in my life..just smoke it..and I don't want to take suboxone or methadone because those are a trap I heard

 

[Alex000]

Good thing is you won't seize if you're only coming off heroin. Benzo withdrawals can cause seizures, same with barbiturates and alcohol among a few other things. Opiate withdrawal is heinous from what I've heard, but I have never been through it. If you can I would get benzos just while your in wd's, and then once they're over you won't need the benzos. Benzos do really help with opiate wd's. Over the counter you can get loperamide (Immodium) which will be of great help with the shits especially. You can also get diphenhydramine (Benadryl) over the counter for help with nausea and a little sedation. Warm showers and baths (lots), keep yourself occupied. Remember the wd's with opiates like H don't last too long. Expect severe flulike symptoms (the shits, aches, chills, sweats etc.), restlessness, depression, cravings etc.

 

[muvolution]

Opie withdrawal is not dangerous... it sucks, but it isn't like benzos or anti-depressants. You will be good man. Try some immodium to alleviate the physical symptoms.

 

[Dave]

Yup. It'll suck for a while, but you aren't in any physical danger from withdrawal. Maybe take a few sick days to get a 5 day weekend, and just disappear for that time. Once you're past that point, you're pretty well physically detoxed and just have to worry about the psychological aspects. It sounds like you've got a lot going for you in life, which will help you from getting stuck in your head and obsessing about heroin. Once you get past the physical bit, my recommendation would be to throw yourself into life: work hard, surf as often as you can and hang out as much as you can with your friends.

You've got this in the bag, man. Let us know how it goes!

 

[Want2change]

Thank you Everybody for the kind words ya I guess the biggest thing I'm worried about is high blood pressure and I would have to go to a doctor to get clonidine prescribed and with no insurance or money that isn't really an option. I kinda feel weird about posting this information I have kept this secret for a while and i don't deserve support or kind words because in reality it's my fault I just got to get through this hopefully I can get some days off work I don't really know what I would tell my boss he's kind of strict..I just don't want to risk my job in any way but I really want to focus on my health and be happy so again thank you Dave,muvoultion,and Alex00 I really don't even deserve you're guys support

 

[muvolution]

I know it sounds weird, but cayenne pepper helps to lower my bp because it is a vasodilator. If you don't like extremely spicy stuff, put like a gram in a parachute or gelcap and take it. It really helps. Also, viatmins - EmergenC or something like that, B complex, Gatorade, etc...

And immodium really does help the physical symptoms as it is an opiate that just doesn't cross into your brain... so the kicking, the sweats, the puking, shits, sniffling, crying, all that (mostly) goes away.

 

[Want2change]

I know it sounds weird, but cayenne pepper helps to lower my bp because it is a vasodilator. If you don't like extremely spicy stuff, put like a gram in a parachute or gelcap and take it. It really helps. Also, viatmins - EmergenC or something like that, B complex, Gatorade, etc...

And immodium really does help the physical symptoms as it is an opiate that just doesn't cross into your brain... so the kicking, the sweats, the puking, shits, sniffling, crying, all that (mostly) goes away.

Ya I definitely need to get some immodium good call but don't people get hooked on that as well? or I may be wrong I just have to be wise about it because money is really tight but I'm sure immodium is a must and you can get that at any health food store correct?

 

[muvolution]

Ya I definitely need to get some immodium good call but don't people get hooked on that as well? or I may be wrong I just have to be wise about it because money is really tight but I'm sure immodium is a must and you can get that at any health food store correct?

immodium should be all over... as well as cayenne pepper. You can get mildly physically addicted to immodium, it takes doses of 20-30 pills to get a mental effect (fuckin people getting high on diarrhea medicine) but for withdrawal, I would take maybe 3-4 pills at once which is 6-8 mgs, then take one less pill a day until you are taking none. I highly doubt that after the severity of heroin withdrawals that you would notice the very minor physical symptoms of 4 days on immodium.

 

[effie]

Thank you Everybody for the kind words ya I guess the biggest thing I'm worried about is high blood pressure and I would have to go to a doctor to get clonidine prescribed and with no insurance or money that isn't really an option.

The high BP you are concerned about isn't life threatening - you will be okay and definitely get yourself some immodium (loperamide) You won't get hooked on it, and you shouldn't need to use it for too long.

I kinda feel weird about posting this information I have kept this secret for a while and i don't deserve support or kind words because in reality it's my fault I just got to get through this hopefully I can get some days off work I don't really know what I would tell my boss he's kind of strict..I just don't want to risk my job in any way but I really want to focus on my health and be happy so again thank you Dave,muvoultion,and Alex00 I really don't even deserve you're guys support

You do deserve kind words and support. I don't know the details of why you got addicted to heroin (and don't feel like I am asking you to share, you don't have to at all - although by all means do if you like) but what I do know is there are usually many factors involved, and many people fall down the slippery slope into addiction. Blaming yourself is not only being unfair to yourself but it is not going to help you at all - you can't change your past but you can change your future. Even if you had just decided one day to get addicted to heroin, and there were no other factors, you would still deserve kindness and support now - doesn't matter what happened in the past, what matters is you need some support right now, through a hard time, and that is perfectly fine!

Best of luck, you can do this - keep talking to us

 

[Want2change]

The high BP you are concerned about isn't life threatening - you will be okay and definitely get yourself some immodium (loperamide) You won't get hooked on it, and you shouldn't need to use it for too long.



You do deserve kind words and support. I don't know the details of why you got addicted to heroin (and don't feel like I am asking you to share, you don't have to at all - although by all means do if you like) but what I do know is there are usually many factors involved, and many people fall down the slippery slope into addiction. Blaming yourself is not only being unfair to yourself but it is not going to help you at all - you can't change your past but you can change your future. Even if you had just decided one day to get addicted to heroin, and there were no other factors, you would still deserve kindness and support now - doesn't matter what happened in the past, what matters is you need some support right now, through a hard time, and that is perfectly fine!

Best of luck, you can do this - keep talking to us

You know honestly I don't really know how I got hooked on it some of my friends were doing it and it was a good stress reliever because my parents fight all the time like slamming doors hitting yelling it just really gets to me sometimes..it makes me never want to get married but I do like having girlfriends so ya that might be one of the contributing factors

 

[herbavore]

You know honestly I don't really know how I got hooked on it some of my friends were doing it and it was a good stress reliever because my parents fight all the time like slamming doors hitting yelling it just really gets to me sometimes..it makes me never want to get married but I do like having girlfriends so ya that might be one of the contributing factors

Hey, Want2change,I love that you chose that for your screen name. With that kind of craziness going on at home I bet the ocean is a welcoming world. Once you are feeling better, get out there as much as you can. I think the ocean, and catching waves is one of the most healing things in the world. Good luck and I want to echo what everyone else is saying, don't blame yourself. You are wanting to change and you will change and you will be all the stronger for what you are going through.

 

[shellybabe]

What a wonderful decision you made to care about yourself and reach out for support, it is not an easy thing. I lost my father to heroin, my cousin and an ex still struggles with methadone and other drugs. Take it day by day and really be proud of yourself, it is a wonderful decision. I just moved to a house down by the ocean to deal with other problems/non substance related. Yeah, getting my dog, sitting in the sun will soothe your soul. Stay safe, know that this is a hard step and please PM me I would love to talk to you one on one....I think it is one of the hardest things to kick. My dad had just started using and he got one bad dose and that was it. You made a decision to change your life....and I just found this site today, talk to everyone, their are some wonderful caring people here just from what I read. Use every resource availble to you to help you succeed.

 

[Sepher]

Hey Want2change. First of all, good for you for deciding to stop. Whatever has prompted that decision will help carry you through the next few days so long as you're able to keep it at the forefront of your mind and use it to fight the cravings. You know it will be rough without any other meds, right, but it is doable.

Where abouts are you doing this? Still in the same environment as you've been in using? It will help massively if you can remove yourself, and get somewhere away from it. If you know you can't get hold of anything, it will help no end with the cravings, physically and psychologically. I understand that might not be easy for you to do.

As for not being deserving of support? What are you on about! :shakeshead: :lol: OK, you made bad choices in the past that got you into the mess you're in, but you're trying to fix that and repair the damage and move forward. Brave thing to do mate, so yes, of course you're deserving of it. Plenty on here will offer it anyways as far as I've seen.

Best of luck with it. Let us know how it goes.

 

[Want2change]

Hey Want2change. First of all, good for you for deciding to stop. Whatever has prompted that decision will help carry you through the next few days so long as you're able to keep it at the forefront of your mind and use it to fight the cravings. You know it will be rough without any other meds, right, but it is doable.

Where abouts are you doing this? Still in the same environment as you've been in using? It will help massively if you can remove yourself, and get somewhere away from it. If you know you can't get hold of anything, it will help no end with the cravings, physically and psychologically. I understand that might not be easy for you to do.

As for not being deserving of support? What are you on about! :shakeshead: :lol: OK, you made bad choices in the past that got you into the mess you're in, but you're trying to fix that and repair the damage and move forward. Brave thing to do mate, so yes, of course you're deserving of it. Plenty on here will offer it anyways as far as I've seen.

Best of luck with it. Let us know how it goes.

I'm doing this in my old room at my parents house they have no idea though and I can't really venture out too far because my job is close by I'm talking to my boss today about hopefully getting some days off but we'll see because he's kind of a hard ass and I can't tell him the REAL reason of why I'm going to be sick

 

[shady4091]

Hey man, seems like we have a lot in common. My addiction has been my darkest secret for almost two years and I'm also detoxing at my dads place without him knowing. It's totally possible but it would help a lot if you had at least one person outside of the forum to talk to. Even just a friend to text on a cell phone once in a while. Hopefully you can get some time off work, I could not imagine being at work while withdrawing, yikes. I'd even go so far as to say quit your job if you have to, as this is the most important thing right now. Best of luck, and like a few people have mentioned to me, keep a journal of your thoughts or even just write out how much pain you're in. It does help.

Feel free to PM me if you need to. I'm here fairly often as of late.

 

[Want2change]

well I have been about eighteen hours sober no H or anything...I feel ok but I can feel something coming I'm not going to lie I do feel kind of scared I just really want to be clean though and make my parents proud..keep my job..keep surfing everyday..I hope God can help me though this and of course all you kind people on here have really given me support and I just got to keep going I guess

 

[Dave]

You can do it. It's just beginning now, and yes, it is going to get worse before it gets better. Stay the course, keep your goals in mind, and remember that it's by your strength and your determination that you'll be able to beat this. You have the skill and the grit to punch through this detox, and things will start to look better on the other side of the weekend; sooner if your addiction wasn't too severe.

Keep checking in, and also take a look at the heroin/opiates megathread for advice and support.