JessFR
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Trump is just pathetic. People with his kind of fucked up ultra fragile ego with this need to believe that they're the best at everything are just completely pathetic to me.
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i agree and, i suppose, much of the time it's himself he's trying to convince as much as anybody else.
but he says it. a lot.
and there are people - lots of people - who hear this and believe/accept it.
alasdair
but he says it. a lot.
and there are people - lots of people - who hear this and believe/accept it.
alasdair
JessFR
Bluelight Crew
Aw thanks for that YouTube clip. That was great.
And he probably believes it all too. I would bet that in his head he believes he knows than almost anyone about every subject he has even a fleeting interest in.
And he probably believes it all too. I would bet that in his head he believes he knows than almost anyone about every subject he has even a fleeting interest in.
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tathra
bluelighter
repeat any lie often enough and stupid people can't help but believe it
tathra
bluelighter
House counsel suggests Trump could be impeached again
The comment came in a filing with federal court that argues Democrats still need testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn.
www.politico.com
The comment came in a filing with federal court that argues Democrats still need testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn.
House counsel suggests Trump could be impeached again
The comment came in a filing with federal court that argues Democrats still need testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn.
www.politico.com
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
And a few others!
Hello Bolton and Mulvaney...
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Right, one of the most telling things for me about his guilt and fear is that, when they asked for his senior people like Bolton and Mulvaney to testify, if he was innocent, he could have quickly and with finality laid the whole matter to rest. They could have testified and proved his innocence. But instead, he ordered them not to. Gee, I wonder why that might be? I haven't heard any sort of substantive counter-argument for that from anyone.
See, when I say I don't support Trump, it's because of footage of stuff like this (and so much more footage of the man speaking, especially at rallies. And policy decisions). How can you watch this stuff and not think "god what a narcissistic pile of nonsense this guy is, we can't have this unstable guy who is only concerned with his ego running this country".
Impeachment does not need to involve a crime, it is specifically written that way. It is for when the president has "undermined the trust of the people". The framers specifically also stated that enlisting foreign powers to influence elections was the very thing they designed it for and the worst offense a president could make. Now it is my conclusion that he did do that, although I know supporters like to pretend that all of the testimony and evidence put forth is lies. But even if he didn't do that, he in incompetent to be president, I do not trust him, he is constantly lying to us, it's impossible to honestly say he hasn't lied on practically a daily basis during his presidency, little lies and big lies. Therefore I support impeachment.
See, when I say I don't support Trump, it's because of footage of stuff like this (and so much more footage of the man speaking, especially at rallies. And policy decisions). How can you watch this stuff and not think "god what a narcissistic pile of nonsense this guy is, we can't have this unstable guy who is only concerned with his ego running this country".
Impeachment does not need to involve a crime, it is specifically written that way. It is for when the president has "undermined the trust of the people". The framers specifically also stated that enlisting foreign powers to influence elections was the very thing they designed it for and the worst offense a president could make. Now it is my conclusion that he did do that, although I know supporters like to pretend that all of the testimony and evidence put forth is lies. But even if he didn't do that, he in incompetent to be president, I do not trust him, he is constantly lying to us, it's impossible to honestly say he hasn't lied on practically a daily basis during his presidency, little lies and big lies. Therefore I support impeachment.
JessFR
Bluelight Crew
I love that among the evidence that is all lies, is the transcript trump himself released and keeps telling us to read.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
We are living in alternate realities where the same evidence is interpreted as vindication that is by others interpreted as damning. it's alarming and strange.
tathra
bluelighter
conservatives have been stuck in a delusion basically since Fox News was created to do exactly that. feeding people lies and propaganda and feeding into their fears for profit is disgusting on so many levels. even worse is that they never have to face the consequences of their actions and instead everyone suffers
tathra
bluelighter
RNC FUNDED ROUGHLY 11,000 AUTOMATED CALLS TO JAM UP HOUSE DEMOCRATS' PHONE LINES AMID IMPEACHMENT BATTLE: REPORT
www.newsweek.com
RNC Funded 11,000 Automated Calls to Jam Up House Democrats' Phone Lines
RNC officials said the calls were not prerecorded "robocalls."
www.newsweek.com
^ classy.
i'm sure it's academic as many republicans seem to be telegraphing their intent to not bother listening to the evidence against president trump.
the core issue of the impeachment enquiry is now simply a matter of fact: trump held up aid to the ukraine until he had a commitment from ukraine to investigate his political opponent.
quid pro quo.
it's also quite clear that the administration tried to cover it up.
see: Exclusive: Unredacted Ukraine Documents Reveal Extent of Pentagon’s Legal Concerns
it's also quite likely that this wasn't just a concern from a national security point of view, the law was broken.
under the terms of the 'impoundment control act 1974', the administration was obliged to disburse the funds as directed by congress. if it didn't, it is legally required to inform congress of that fact and why.
officials of the defense department noted in a letter to the omb "We have repeatedly advised OMB officials" that the suspension of aid jeopardizes "the department's ability" to comply with the impoundment control act.
alasdair
i'm sure it's academic as many republicans seem to be telegraphing their intent to not bother listening to the evidence against president trump.
the core issue of the impeachment enquiry is now simply a matter of fact: trump held up aid to the ukraine until he had a commitment from ukraine to investigate his political opponent.
quid pro quo.
it's also quite clear that the administration tried to cover it up.
see: Exclusive: Unredacted Ukraine Documents Reveal Extent of Pentagon’s Legal Concerns
it's also quite likely that this wasn't just a concern from a national security point of view, the law was broken.
under the terms of the 'impoundment control act 1974', the administration was obliged to disburse the funds as directed by congress. if it didn't, it is legally required to inform congress of that fact and why.
officials of the defense department noted in a letter to the omb "We have repeatedly advised OMB officials" that the suspension of aid jeopardizes "the department's ability" to comply with the impoundment control act.
alasdair
TheLoveBandit
Retired Never Was, Coulda been wannabe
I was led to understand there is a time frame associated with it, and that it was released within said timeframe. Is this incorrect?
my further reading suggests that "the White House violated the Impoundment Control Act by failing to notify Congress of the hold on security assistance to Ukraine and by preventing the Pentagon from having adequate time to disburse all the money before it expired."
alasdair
alasdair
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Dear Mr. President
the American people would like you to serve 4 more years just fucking stop blowing up the budget and blow up Iran and DPRK instead
Love
CH
I can't help but be honest. blow up the budget and iran can't get blown up, it's an either/or for some of us. compatibilism does not exist here.
the American people would like you to serve 4 more years just fucking stop blowing up the budget and blow up Iran and DPRK instead
Love
CH
sorry
I can't help but be honest. blow up the budget and iran can't get blown up, it's an either/or for some of us. compatibilism does not exist here.no wonder congress/senate can't legislate telephone technology; the republicans are taking advantage of the telephone version of DDOS attacks? hmmm...RNC FUNDED ROUGHLY 11,000 AUTOMATED CALLS TO JAM UP HOUSE DEMOCRATS' PHONE LINES AMID IMPEACHMENT BATTLE: REPORT
RNC Funded 11,000 Automated Calls to Jam Up House Democrats' Phone Lines
RNC officials said the calls were not prerecorded "robocalls."
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
US Ambassador to Ukraine, Bill Taylor, who testified in the Trump impeachment trial, is leaving the position.
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novaveritas
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Almost like the Creepy Joe Biden and the quid pro quo withholding of loan guarantees, to cause the firing of Shokin, the prosecutor in Ukraine, we have it from the horses mouth boasting about it in a speech at the CFR. Burisma is the real scandal, Hunter Biden was not employed because he had a glittering military career....
Trump obviously learned from the best.
They are all dirty, can we impeach the whole lot of them or just bulldoze them into a hole?
Trump first. Get on with it and charge him with something that will stick, there is a long list of things that would stick but unfortuantely the Dems can't use them because they are also up to their grubby elbows in the exactly the same shit with exactly the same people.
tathra
bluelighter
yes, hopefully. either that or it won't be until we start breaking out the slicey bois
cduggles
Bluelight Crew
Considering Fiona Hill’s testimony (see first quote below) and the somewhat conflicting fact that Bolton alerted Mitch McConnell before making this announcement, I’m not sure if this is Bolton trying to do the right thing and testify or he knows he won’t have to do so. I’m guessing the latter.
Why? Because after Roger Stone’s conviction and lack of pardon, I’m guessing Bolton will do what he has to do to stay out of jail.
www.politico.com
Why? Because after Roger Stone’s conviction and lack of pardon, I’m guessing Bolton will do what he has to do to stay out of jail.
Bolton curveball threatens to upend impeachment trial
Bolton's offer is a win for Senate Democrats, who have sought additional testimony and documents against the president.
www.politico.com
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Yeah I saw this. I think he's trying to ride the razor's edge here and appear to be cooperating as much as possible.
I love how Republicans raged about how the impeachment hearings didn't have any first-hand testimony, but the white house aggressively blocked all attempts to bring anyone with first-hand testimony to the stand. Including Bolton. I haven't seen someone rationalize that away as anything but an obvious attempt to stifle potentially damning evidence.
In other news, now Trump is threatening 52 Iranian heritage sites with destruction if Iran counters the assassination Trump ordered (which they have vowed to do). Which goes against international law and US law. That's what terrorists do, it's not what the United States is supposed to do. It's shameful and one more reason to get this fucker out of the oval office pronto. It's gotten beyond ridiculous to extremely dangerous. Everyone should be alarmed about these recent developments.
I love how Republicans raged about how the impeachment hearings didn't have any first-hand testimony, but the white house aggressively blocked all attempts to bring anyone with first-hand testimony to the stand. Including Bolton. I haven't seen someone rationalize that away as anything but an obvious attempt to stifle potentially damning evidence.
In other news, now Trump is threatening 52 Iranian heritage sites with destruction if Iran counters the assassination Trump ordered (which they have vowed to do). Which goes against international law and US law. That's what terrorists do, it's not what the United States is supposed to do. It's shameful and one more reason to get this fucker out of the oval office pronto. It's gotten beyond ridiculous to extremely dangerous. Everyone should be alarmed about these recent developments.