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The political economy of Paul Sweezy...

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I'm not so sure if this would do better here or in CE&P.
Nonetheless, here is an essay I wrote summarizing Baran and Sweezy's theory of capitalist crisis presented in Monopoly Capital . I would be especially interested in criticism of Sweezy's theory from bourgeois economists of various stripes.
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In Monopoly Capital, Baran and Sweezy argue that the primary contradiction of monopoly capitalism is that the accumulation of surplus within the capitalist class, a natural tendency of monopoly capital, threatens the very process of accumulation in that it creates a demand-crisis. In its wake, this crisis of demand leaves much of the economy’s productive capacity unutilized, reducing rates of employment, rates of demand for investment in the means of production, and ultimately realizable levels of profit. We can see, then, that the central tendency of monopoly capitalism, in the absence of any stimulating force, is one of stagnation. Capitalists working within the context of monopoly capitalism have been, on some level, aware of this contradiction and the threat it presents to profits and the world-capitalist system itself. Consequently, the ruling class has made a variety of attempts to find outlets of investment and consumption which serve to absorb the surplus they have accumulated, thus stimulating demand, allowing employment rates to rise and rates of use of the means of production to approach capacity, in effect escaping the tendency towards economic stagnation. Some of these major outlets for surplus absorption include the intensive sales-effort, expansion of the welfare state and other Keynesian fiscal policies, and expansion of military spending. Although Keynesian economic policies hold much promise in the effort to combat the central contradiction of monopoly capital, Baran and Sweezy argue that Keynesian policies of the appropriate magnitude are unlivable for political reasons. Furthermore, Keynesian policies do little to combat auxiliary contradictions of monopoly capital.



In order to understand the contradiction entailed by the accumulation of surplus within the capitalist class, we must first understand the factors which cause this accumulation of excess surplus to occur. Namely, it is because of the power wielded by oligopic firms and their status as “price-makers” that the concentration of surplus within the capitalist class tends to rise, both relatively and absolutely. Because the majority of industries are dominated by only a few massive corporations, the majority of economic sectors present massive barriers of entry to would-be firms who stand to undercut the prices charged by the existing oligopoly. Furthermore, since these oligopic firms are bureaucratically rationalized and massive in size, they seek to maximize their profits in the long-term rather than seeking cut-throat price-competition in the short term (Baran and Sweezy 58). The result is a strong tendency for these firms to avoid price-competition and potentially devastating price wars. On this taboo against price-competition, Sweezy and Baran write, “Like other powerful taboos, that against price cutting has grown up gradually out of long and often bitter experience. . .As long as it is accepted and observed, the dangerous uncertainties are removed from the rationalized pursuit of maximum profits” (Baran and Sweezy 59). Thus, out of the framework of the power wielded by these oligopic firms rises a sort of group-strategy, an implicit agreement against price-competition which stands to destroy all firms in the market. The nature of this taboo has had a variety of manifestations, from tight cartels to informal agreements among firms, whereby the most powerful firm in a particular sector acts as “price-leader”, but in no case are these rationalized corporations willing to risk their livelihood in brutal price competition (Baran and Sweezy 60). Rather, the prices charged by these firms are ultimately monopolistic in nature.



This is not to say that competition is nonexistent among these firms. Rather, oligopic firms compete amongst one another over access to resources within production and commodity-trade which make a particular firm more profitable, thus increasing its power relative to its competitors (Baran and Sweezy 59). Firstly, oligopic firms are apt to compete fiercely in the arena of the sales effort in an attempt to draw customers from one oligopic firm to another. Very often, the firm with the largest profit margin, and thus the more powerful firm, is able to greatly outpace its competitors in its sales-effort because of the surplus it can afford to dedicate to sales (Baran and Sweezy 67). For example, one can think back to the early to mid-nineties when Reebok and Nike were locked in fierce competition. The battle was waged largely over the airwaves in the form of dueling commercial-spots rather than at the check-out counter in the form of dueling price-tags. Similarly, leading oligopic firms are able to devote additional resources to the development of superficially novel products which attract attention away from their competitors (Baran and Sweezy 69).



Secondly, oligopic firms, seeking to lower their production costs in comparison to their competitors and thus increase their power in the marketplace, compete in the arena of labor costs. Firms are consistently racing to find new locales which offer the cheapest possible labor and either invest in these locations or outsource to them immediately. This force, an expression of imperialism within the monopoly capitalist milieu, underlies the much discussed trend of globalization. Finally, it should be noted that there is fierce competition among the makers of producer-goods, namely to offer a piece of machinery, software, or a proprietary process which most greatly increases the profits of the consumer of these goods, who is him or herself a producer of final goods (Baran and Sweezy 70). The result of competition among firms making producer-goods has been briskly paced innovation and a consistent reduction in costs and increase in the profitability of industry overall.



It is plain to see that, unlike the price-competition common among firms of the competitive capitalist era, the competitive measures undertaken by monopoly-capitalist firms serve to increase the accumulation of surplus by the capitalists. In no case does this competition benefit the proletarian consumer. Rather, the intensive sales effort and superficial innovation serves to increase demand (within the constraints of the consumers’ wages) while the race to find cheap labor and innovation of producer-goods serve to reduce costs of production Since the prices charged by these oligopic firms remain constant, their rate of profit, and thus the rate of surplus-accumulation, must rise.



There is a problem for these firms, however. If there is no outlet for the surplus accumulated by these firms, principally if the escalating accumulation of surplus is not matched with an escalation in consumers’ demand for the capitalists’ products, the entire economy stands to stagnate (Baran and Sweezy 82). Because of the tendency for surplus to accumulate in the capitalist class, during economic booms the rate of capital investment will eclipse the rate of growth in demand on the part of consumers, who are largely proletarian. Consequently, the productive capacity of the economy will eclipse the capacity of consumers to purchase its goods. Accordingly, as the disparity between productive capacity and consumptive demand grows, as surplus continues to accumulate at the top, rates of employment and investment will fall as will rates of overall production and the quantity of surplus being accumulated. Furthermore, due to the existence of overhead costs, there is a tendency for the rate of profit to fall with the rate of production, leading to further disinvestment, leading to further unemployment, leading to further decreases in demand (Baran and Sweezy 82). In sum, the central tendency of the monopoly capitalist system is one of stagnation and crisis in the absence of any outlet for its immense accumulation of surplus.



Luckily for the existence of world-capitalist system and the temporary well-being of some of those participating in it, several outlets for excess surplus accumulation have been created over the course of the last century. It is through these outlets that the economy is “propped-up”, and production may more closely approach capacity. Firstly, an enormous amount of surplus has been dumped in to the intensive sales-effort which is now a requisite to a firm’s viability. Baran and Sweezy write, “Price competition has largely receded as a means of attracting the public’s custom, and has yielded to new ways of sales promotion: advertising, variation of the products’ appearance and packaging, ‘planned obsolescence,’ model changes, credit schemes, and the like” (Baran and Sweezy 115). Thus, because oligopic firms compete largely on the basis of their sales-effort, in the past couple of decades on the basis of their branding, firms must devote a great deal of would-be profits to the advertising effort. At the same time, the advertising industry, composed of capitalists, workers, and highly paid celebrities alike, owes its very existence to money spent on advertising by capitalists working in the non-advertising sector. Because the advertising industry is funded by the productive surplus, and because the demand for advertising is created by the capitalists themselves, the advertising industry can be said to absorb this surplus, raising the rate of production towards capacity. If the advertising industry did not exist and there were no other outlet for the productive surplus, those working in the ad industry would likely be unemployed.



The immense growth of the military-industrial complex in the twentieth century can also be explained by its role in surplus absorption. Like the ad industry, the existence of the military opens a new outlet for capital investment and offers employment to those who would otherwise be unemployed. The tendency for those who lack employable skills or a future in the educational system to enlist in the military betrays the military’s role in surplus-absorption. In this way, the military, too, allows total production to further approach productive capacity. Also, the military serves an additional purpose for the capitalist class. Baran and Sweezy write, “The hierarchy of nations which make up the capitalist system is characterized by a complex set of exploitative relations. . .each unit at a given level strives to be the sole exploiter of as large a number as possible of the units beneath it” (Baran and Sweezy 179). In this international network of exploitation, the military serves its purpose, furthering the accumulation of capital on the part of the particular nation making use of its military. The militaries of the first-world nations, in particular, have been used to insure that cheap labor and natural resources in the third-world may be secured by multinational corporations based in the first-world. Military force can be used to ensure that the political conditions of third world nations remain stable and that the prices of labor and natural resources remain low, carried out under the rhetoric of free trade. When third-world governments present barriers to capitalist accumulation, third-world revolutions may be funded by first-world nations and friendlier governments may be installed. It is in part through the existence of the military that imperialism continues.



A final and perhaps more communally useful avenue for the absorption of surplus has been the expansion of the civilian government. Be it through “transfer-payments to groups which can somehow make good their claims for special treatment,” including farmers who receive subsidies and welfare recipients, or direct government purchases of goods and services, such as the federally funded construction of the interstate highway system, the government is able to draw funds from the surplus through taxes and stimulate demand through its spending (Baran and Sweezy 143). In this way, the civilian government, too, is able to push production up towards its capacity. It would seem at first glance that through the pursuit of Keynesian economic policies, through the expansion of the economic activities of the government, it would be possible to absorb the excess capitalist surplus and in the process fund socially beneficial services such as universal healthcare and a robust system of welfare for the unemployed. Baran and Sweezy argue, however, that Keynesian policies of this magnitude would simply be politically unviable. Because the state is controlled almost entirely by a moneyed oligarchy, the legislation it churns out benefits largely the interests of this oligarchy (Baran and Sweezy 165). Because this moneyed oligarchy is the capitalist class itself, legislation which stands to benefit the populace but encroaches on the domain of private industry faces formidable legislative opposition. Increased military spending, on the other hand, which both provides an outlet for excess surplus and protects capitalist interests abroad, has had no trouble getting through congress and the senate.


Conversely, and in the defense of Keynesian liberals, there now exist nation-states in Western Europe which have enacted relatively large programs of government spending and heavy taxation-schemes under the banner of Social-Democracy. Through these programs, nations such as Switzerland and Sweden have escaped many of the harmful effects surrounding the stagnation that stems from concentration of surplus at the top, namely high rates of poverty and unemployment. Unfortunately, these nations are beginning to scale-back the magnitude of their social programs, the ruling elite seizing additional surplus in the short-term under the banner of free trade. Furthermore, even Keynesian fiscal policies do not present a solution to another fundamental capitalist contradiction, that of the looming environmental crisis. Capitalism, as a growth-based system, cannot flourish indefinitely on a planet with a finite quantity of natural resources. These contradictions stem from the fundamental logic of the world-capitalist system and their resolution will only be realized through transition towards another system.




ebola
 
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1 - The topic of stagnation: You are correct that that stagnation seems to be the likely result of world capitalism. But that stagnation occurs so slowly (in comparison to our lifespans), that only a tiny fraction of people will ever become aware of it. Most people tend to live "in the moment," blissfully unaware of the coming economic crisis (which was supposed to have happened umpteen million times now....)

2 - The link between monopolistic capitalism and the unfortunate circumstances it gives rise to, is flimsy. It seems you are arguing that the resulting economic hardships suffered by the third world are a natural result of how we've organized our societies. Is this just a surrogate argument for man's inherent selfishness? If we are going to be transitioning to another system soon, we might want to clear that up first.

3 - >>>"In sum, the central tendency of the monopoly capitalist system is one of stagnation and crisis in the absence of any outlet for its immense accumulation of surplus." <<< Why do we over-produce in the first place? Because increases in productivity and technology really do raise standards of living in the short run. Most people don't spend their free time gazing into economic crystal balls. They invent novel concepts, and then transfer them to reality, as soon as possible. It seems like the reason behind the coming crisis will be simple short-sightedness.

Firstly, an enormous amount of surplus has been dumped in to the intensive sales-effort which is now a requisite to a firm’s viability.
Viability in a monopoly market maybe. What about the vast number of businesses which the public never sees? For most businesses, sales is about alerting other firms of the availability of better products, not branding. I realize that you covered this in your discussion of producer-goods, but you didn't really say why competition among these firms leads to a bourgois theft of the surplus they create. Advances in the design of products, gives the public access to better products. What the owners of production do with the profit, is their business (just like any firm). The case you make for the surplus-eating effects of war is a much better argument.

The tendency for those who lack employable skills or a future in the educational system to enlist in the military betrays the military’s role in surplus-absorption. In this way, the military, too, allows total production to further approach productive capacity
Militaries have existed ever since we made our first tools. Sure the military may help eat up some surplus, but I doubt that this is it's "purpose." Canada has barely no military, but seems to have no problem keeping enough people unemployed as to create a labor-market favorable to business. I suggest you hit up some game theory, as I think it offers another perspective on world politics (and economics). Some nations really are more war-like than others. And some individuals *really are* more drawn to battle than others. I'm not arguing that the poor minorities who join our military are platonic warriors. But as far as the existence of the military goes, surplus-absorption is a good intellectual tool for looking at the macro-level, but I don't think it gets at the root issues.

Increased military spending, on the other hand, which both provides an outlet for excess surplus and protects capitalist interests abroad, has had no trouble getting through congress and the senate.
Ahhhh. That's what I was looking for ;)

Capitalism, as a growth-based system, cannot flourish indefinitely on a planet with a finite quantity of natural resources.
It's a good thing that isn't the case then. We'll survive just fine off the sun, and hydro. Just fewer of us :) But if you are assuming that after the fossil fuel runs dry, we'll revert to a decentralized lifestyle, free of "governmental" institutions, I think you are wrong. It isn't oil that keeps people complacent. There will always be a certain percentage of humans devoted to organization on a grand scale, who view the world from an airplane window so to speak. We are ruled by people playing SimCity, and i think there will always be willing players.............Well, I think I'm going off on a tangent now :)

Great paper man, wish I could write something as good. :)
 
>>1 - The topic of stagnation: You are correct that that stagnation seems to be the likely result of world capitalism. But that stagnation occurs so slowly (in comparison to our lifespans), that only a tiny fraction of people will ever become aware of it. Most people tend to live "in the moment," blissfully unaware of the coming economic crisis (which was supposed to have happened umpteen million times now....)
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Stagnation can and has happened within the scope of our lives. When I talk of economic stagnation, I'm talking about crises like the great depression. There have been subsequent economic crises in the US although they have less clearly been demand crises. The stagflation of the 70s has traditionally been explained in terms of a supply-side shock from rising oil prices although there are alternative explanations out there. The dot-com collapse is a bit more complicated because of the involvement of financial capital and the assorted paper and pencil tricks, but this collapse two can be analyzed in terms of the accumulation of surplus.

>>It seems you are arguing that the resulting economic hardships suffered by the third world are a natural result of how we've organized our societies. Is this just a surrogate argument for man's inherent selfishness?>>

No, this is in no way a surrogate human-nature argument. I simply argue that our particular system has certain central tendencies which have wrought various negative consequences.

>>Why do we over-produce in the first place? Because increases in productivity and technology really do raise standards of living in the short run.>>

No, it is because productive decisions are made by captial, and capital is driven primarily by the logic of accumulation. capital seeks only additional capital. This accumulation logic cannot include concerns such as the long-term sustainability of the economy.

>> Most people don't spend their free time gazing into economic crystal balls>>

Is this some sort of ad-hominem in disguise? :)

>>For most businesses, sales is about alerting other firms of the availability of better products, not branding.>>

Hmmm...I'm not sure what percent of the GDP is accounted for by the producer-goods market.

>>but you didn't really say why competition among these firms leads to a bourgois theft of the surplus they create. Advances in the design of products, gives the public access to better products. >>

competition among the producing firms doesn't directly foster the accumulation of surplus. However, the fuits of this competition, namely more efficient producer goods, lead to rising productivity, and thus a decrease in the organic composition of capital. In the absence of a demand-stimulus, this leads to rising unemployment and production falling below capacity

>>What the owners of production do with the profit, is their business (just like any firm).>>

haha....much like it is your business to play devil's advocate, eh?
regardless, talk of rightful claims to surplus value is outside of the scope of this paper...it is only concerned with macro-economic consequences.

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i'll get to more later.
i actually have to do some work here. :)

ebola
np: squarepusher
 
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>>Militaries have existed ever since we made our first tools. Sure the military may help eat up some surplus, but I doubt that this is it's "purpose.">>

I'm not so sure it is that useful to define military in this manner. I think what is special about the modern military is that it is the vehicle of imperialist conquest. This has not always been the case with inter-group conflict among humans.

Now, the military can have multiple purposes. When people speak of military investment as a good way to promote job-growth, they are also speaking of the military's role in absorbing surplus.

>>Canada has barely no military, but seems to have no problem keeping enough people unemployed as to create a labor-market favorable to business.>>

I read somewhere that canada was having a recent economic slump. :)
Regardless, Canada has expanded social services in comparison to the US which play a part in the absorbtion of surplus.

>>I suggest you hit up some game theory, as I think it offers another perspective on world politics (and economics). >>

what does it show us?

>>But as far as the existence of the military goes, surplus-absorption is a good intellectual tool for looking at the macro-level, but I don't think it gets at the root issues.
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right, and this essay is an exploration of macro-level issues. Furthermore, why aren't macro-level issues the "root"?

>>But if you are assuming that after the fossil fuel runs dry, we'll revert to a decentralized lifestyle, free of "governmental" institutions, I think you are wrong.>>

I am not. I see a totalitarian response as equally likely.

>>Great paper man, wish I could write something as good.>>

thanks man. although now its apparent that it is confusing in spots.
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and, I think you can write a very good paper...and I'm skeptical as to whether you haven't already.

ebola
 
Stagnation can and has happened within the scope of our lives. When I talk of economic stagnation, I'm talking about crises like the great depression.
Ok, so stagnation does occur in the short term, but is this really analogous to the stagnation you are describing, the tendency of surplus capital to accumulate in a heap without anyone to demand it?

>>Why do we over-produce in the first place? Because increases in productivity and technology really do raise standards of living in the short run.>>No, it is because productive decisions are made by captial, and capital is driven primarily by the logic of accumulation. capital seeks only additional capital. This accumulation logic cannot include concerns such as the long-term sustainability of the economy.
I'm not convinced yet that the only goal of capital is accumulation. I am, however, convinced that the tendency to accumulate things is part of human nature.

>> Most people don't spend their free time gazing into economic crystal balls>>Is this some sort of ad-hominem in disguise
No, gazing into economic crystal balls is great fun :) I'm just pointing out that most people never do it.
competition among the producing firms doesn't directly foster the accumulation of surplus. However, the fuits of this competition, namely more efficient producer goods, lead to rising productivity...
AND greater standards of living for those in the primary economy.
I think what is special about the modern military is that it is the vehicle of imperialist conquest. This has not always been the case with inter-group conflict among humans.
I think it has been. We'll have to start a new thread :)
Regardless, Canada has expanded social services in comparison to the US which play a part in the absorbtion of surplus.
But Canada is cutting back on social spending all the time, mainly due to tax-base crises which are happening pretty much everywhere in the U.S and Canada. Canada's healthcare, if anything, isn't as good at expending surplus as the U.S's. In terms of cutting edge expensive operations, and non-medical procedures, the U.S is pretty much king. Also, i've heard anecdotally that the vast majority of medical inventions now occur in the U.S.
 
Great topic for discussion.

To clarify a couple of things, "capitalist accumulation" does share some features of ordinary greediness, but the perversion that is the essence of capitalism is to accumulate capital to produce more capital to produce more capital. I'm not knowledgeable enough to properly criticize Sweezy's arguments, but from my limited understanding, I don't think enough emphasis is put upon the contradictions between capitalists and between different blocs of capital (sectoral, national). It could be interesting to try to use Sweezy's method to look at the last WTO meetings and the role of Brazil, India, and South Africa. I also don't understand how Sweezy would interpret lean or just-in-time production.

On a side note about Canada - The disparity between rich and poor is quite a lot less extreme than in the US. There are a few short reasons. Canada has been a junior imperial partner with England -- our official head of state is Queen Elizabeth -- and with the USA. The country possesses incredible natural resources in places formerly or currently occupied by aboriginal peoples. There's an odd paternalism in Canda which is probably the most common social outlook, whether its positioned as Left or Right -- The Red Tory. The Red Tory believes in peoples right to make money in the market, but also that there needs to be limits to how much and under what conditions. Canada also has one social democratic party based on the Anglo-Canadian labour movement and a leftish cross class party based in Quebec, which is based on both the Quebecois bourgeoisie and the labour movement. Last, but certainly not least, is the fact that the unionization rate is about 3 times that of the USA's, and our labour movement is substantively to the left of the AFL-CIO, participating more openly in social movements and taking more militant action in the face of attacks on social services.
 
>>To clarify a couple of things, "capitalist accumulation" does share some features of ordinary greediness, but the perversion that is the essence of capitalism is to accumulate capital to produce more capital to produce more capital.>>

In my opinion, the capitalist need not be greedy to accumulate (and reinvest). The capitalist needs to continue accumulating if he is to remain competitive in his respective industry.

>>I'm not knowledgeable enough to properly criticize Sweezy's arguments, but from my limited understanding, I don't think enough emphasis is put upon the contradictions between capitalists and between different blocs of capital (sectoral, national).>>

hmmm...what would these contradictions be? Also, I haven't read that much of Sweezy...for all I know, he coulda written on this issue at a later date.

>>The country possesses incredible natural resources in places formerly or currently occupied by aboriginal peoples.>>

heh...so does the US.

>>Last, but certainly not least, is the fact that the unionization rate is about 3 times that of the USA's, and our labour movement is substantively to the left of the AFL-CIO, participating more openly in social movements and taking more militant action in the face of attacks on social services.>>

definitely a good thing.

ebola
 
Nothing against you Ebola, I love your works, but you need to break it up more. I have problems reading that small of a type here, and when it's taht close together, and that many words, it's worse.

I won't change my resolution, because my puter needs this setting for the photoshop stuff.

Please in the future could you break it up more?
 
yeah, it used to be in double-space (and with, you know, indents), but bluelight zapped the formatting when I pasted. I can change the text-size, though, and put some spaces between the paragraphs.

Anyway, thanks.

ebola
 
^^^ yeah, just put in blank lines in between paragraphs and bl will format it right. Then I'll take a look.
 
I was gonna make a response to some of the above but I was in too much agreement! Yoinks!

So given that, are you folks aware of other bluelighters into any of this stuff?

Any feedback on the paper or bourgeois economists takes on Sweezy? I find Sweezy's vision of socialism a bit insuffucient, but one has to admire someonne working and publishing through McCarthyism in the way he did.

Would you folks be at all intersted in working through Ernest Mandel's Late Capitalism or Marxist Economic Theory?

Or Harry Braverman's Labor and Monopoly Capital? There's also interesting stuff following Braverman, but it could be useful to return to the source. I loved reading it and it made sense, but I'm sure there's dimensions I didn't get. Capitalism sure leaves a bad hangover.
 
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>>I find Sweezy's vision of socialism a bit insuffucient, but one has to admire someonne working and publishing through McCarthyism in the way he did.>>

yeah, i bracket that aside because I have different opinions from him about authority in economics and elsewhere.

>>Would you folks be at all intersted in working through Ernest Mandel's Late Capitalism or Marxist Economic Theory? >>

I would, although I haven't read either...maybe they should go on my list.

>>Or Harry Braverman's Labor and Monopoly Capital? >>

This one's a classic, although his argument now seems rather obvious (I guess most things are in retrospect).

>>Capitalism sure leaves a bad hangover.>>

real dirty high as well. :)

ebola
 
Hey ebola,

Thought I'd posted a response. I wrote it , but I guess the machine ate it.

Would you want to discuss Braverman? Or try to get some discussion on contemporary labor issues going? Do you read Labor Notes? Or Against the Current?

I'd love to talk about Mandel some time. Have you read any Michael Lowy? His studies on Georg Lukacs and liberation theology are fabulous, and his book redemption and Utopia is one of the best most political cultural studies books I've read.

Going to the Million Worker March?
 
>> Would you want to discuss Braverman? Or try to get some discussion on contemporary labor issues going?>>

that would be cool, although Ive just read most of "Labor and Monopoly Capital", and that's it. I've also read a bit of Monthly Review, but not the other periodicals you mention. Or the books. :)
looks like you've been doing your homework. :)

>> Going to the Million Worker March?>>

I wish...would have been both enjoyable and worthwhile.

ebola
 
Oh, I'm just an underemployed commie nerd. And thrilled to come across USian leftists on a stoner board. What more could I want?

This might sound hoaky, but I was looking at the sleeve to Steve Earle's Jersualem album the other night, and he wrote about the US constitution and the greatness of America via the mainstream -- Jefferson, Lincoln, and so on -- but also about the other America -- Emma Goldman, Martin and Malcolm, Abbie Hoffman. Folks like Paul Sweezy or Harry Braverman or Sasha Shulgin or Patti Smith or Public Enemy or bell hooks or T-Bone Slim are key to the hidden currents of the potential of America and the nitemare of Amerikkka.

And I felt really sad. The American revolution inspired the French, Haitian, and, in a few different ways, Vietnamese revolutions. It was also founded on genocide and slavery. A most peculiar dialectic.
 
>>US constitution and the greatness of America via the mainstream -- Jefferson, Lincoln, and so on -- but also about the other America >>

Traditionally, I view this kind of activity, particularly in the case of the of the US revolution, as necessary measures made on the part of US capital in order to mobilize the US proletariat for their cause (and to quell revolution against American capital). Of course, it is unclear how this works on a micro level and to what extent the ruling elite believe in their own ideology.

>>A most peculiar dialectic.>>

You have my interest piqued. What is the dialectical movement here?

ebola
 
What do you think the US could be?

Now in response: Oh absolutely from a certain very rational political economy kinda perspective. But Marxism is a critique of politcal economy and I'm talking crazy Marxist talk.

The American revolution was about creating greater opportunies for exploitation, but it did inspire notions of egalitarianism that have been picked up by mass movements to this day.

The odd dilaectic is the contradiction between dreams of self fulfillment, freedom from oppression, the creation of the New World, where all [sic] men [sic] are equal, and the reality of homelessness, the KKK, the Bushes, right to work states, mass murder of Iraqis and Afghanis, the death penalty, other racist imperial idiocies, piss testing, Al Gore defending monotheism and on and on and on.

There's a wonderful collection of poetry dited by Jerome Rothenberg called America A Prophecy, named after the William Blake poem of the same name. I assume you're in college/university and couple probably access it.

I just got the Kronos Quartet's Howl USA, with great stuff from Harry Partch, weird samples of J Edgar Hoover, and, of course, Allen Ginsberg reading Howl.

Also reading a great book called Family Circle about Leonard and Kathy Boudin. The former was Paul Robeson's lawyer and father of the latter, the latter is the daughter of the former and a nototorious memeber of the Weather Underground -- really Weatherman, but I've got some creeping PC revisionism happening at the moment.
 
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