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The Pain Management Mega Thread v2.0

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I've been on meds for yrs, and even when I've quit CT, my tolerance is right where I left it when I started again. I don't know what's wrong with me... I get no euphoria or buzz from opiates but I'm definitely physically dependent on them. I've tried quitting opiates bc of my high tolerance, and have been thru the ringer with alternatives, but nothing else works for pain control and my tolerance remains extremely high. I'm really not getting enough relief from my current regimen so when I cut back it's ugly. I have kids so laying in bed hating life doesn't work out too well. I know I probably should start a slow taper so I don't withdraw but it's hard convincing myself to suffer when I have 20 oxys sitting next to me. Maybe I should look for a legal way to supplement the oxy? The only adult I live with loves opiates, so having someone control my dosing won't work :(

Current daily intake is 120mg of oxy with some other meds in the mix.
 
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Im the same samsonite. i went ct from 100mcg of fent and it did nothing to lower my tolerance even after a 3 month break. I also get no buzz or euphoria i mean i hardly get relief let alone anything else so I really understand your predicament. I would decrease a little to make it last as pain with wds on top is pure hell I have gone ct many times and it makes my pain much worse so feeling a little icky for a few days is worth it in my opinion.
 
Hi doomed! I forgot you also don't get the euphoria. I will give it a try. It's just hard to not dip into the meds when you're tossing and turning and can't sleep from the pain.
 
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I'm struggling with a dilemma that I'm sure some of you guys are acquainted with; I'm going to run out of meds early this month :( I have enough to last 10 days of regular dosing. I don't get a refills for 16 days. My dilemma is whether or not to start a slow taper and conserve meds, which would leave me in pain for the whole 16 days but not withdrawl. OR take as usual and during the last week take a dive in dosing. Pros and cons for both considering my pain is severe. Being in pain for 16 days when I know I have meds on hand that would relieve me is miserable and almost impossible IME. But, while taking a sudden drop in meds those last few days is less days of suffering, I will be in withdrawl hell. Any thoughts on the lesser evil??
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Yes Yes Yes, I have experience with this.

Cut your dose NOW. It's so much better to suffer somewhat for a longer time than being bedridden for 6 days. Plus, when you get your refill, it will feel blissful taking your regular dose.

Ever since the doctors continue to fuck with my prescription to carisoprodol, I've been going through a real hard time. They gave me fucking Tizanidine instead, which basically makes me nod out and unable to function when combined with my oxycodone. The carisoprodol never gave me this problem, it is by far the best muscle relaxer for my conditions. So frustrating, Tiazanidine is garbage, so is all the other alternatives, methocarbamol (been taking this heavily, it's extremely weak), cyclobenzaprine, baclophen, skelaxin, none of those work.

I just want my soma back! =\ I was so content with not having to rely on anyone else for pain management. I was happy using my own prescriptions finally, tapered off the other opioids, then they fuck with my soma and everything falls apart.

But on a happy note, I've managed to bring my 8.5 down to about a 7.5 :)
 
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try some valerian root for sleep. Also get some ganga, this is essential. Why? To supplement the opiates. Find some high qual weed and: make some butter (for eating), some oil/wax (for smoking), and some salve (for topical application) and get your cannabinoid levels up man. It worked super good for me... Also, if you need even more help than Ja can provide, then look into "neuroplastic transformation" by using essential oils for nasal inhalation. This stuff is a life saver, (when you wake up W/D'ing and your eyes are watering and your body aches and your about to spill your guts all over the floor.... the essential oils come to save the day. Just drop a few drops on your thumb and index finger, rub them together, bring your hand close to your nose and inhale deep. Repeat multiple times until you feel better. I was turned on to this stuff by a colleague of mine (who was turned on by a friend [who's MD used it to get of OxyContin as well!]) and have had great success with it. I did not order it so I don't know exactly where it comes from), but I do know it comes from Santa Rosa or Sebastopol in California. It is legal, (basically a specific combination of essential oils) and works great.

Good luck, "you can do it!"<3
 
Cool, yea I know. But the essential oils I was talking about do NOT have any cannabis in them. This is recommended if cannabis does not help enough. The "neuroplastic transformation" liquid is made from other essential oils (one of the most prominent being a super pure peppermint oil). So, yes Sonoma has great buds, but some lady down there has a pretty amazing thing going with her essential oil blend (cannabinoid FREE!). :| no seriously, it works! ;)
 
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My mj recommendation expired last month so that could get tricky. I had it for a yr but thanks to politicians trying to snub it, they STILL haven't opened dispensaries. I'm waiting for some to open before paying another $350 for the damn card. I'll definitely check into the ess oils. What do you guys think about kratom? Will it supplement my oxy or is my tolerance too high at 120mg to do any good? I have also responded well to tramadol keeping me out of withdrawl, but going in and asking a dr for a specific med looks fishy. I currently take Soma and thank god they havent tried to take it from me. Ive tried all the others as well and they suck. Ive even tried methocarbamol and it sucks so I def feel for you. My Soma never lasts the whole month but that is bc I <3 it :) Thanks guys!
 
I would NOT supplement your prescribed opiate regime with anything else. You will become dependent on the larger dose, and your normal pain medication will not work.

You should look into acupuncture, meditation, pt, cbt, etc... The more you can reduce your pain through non-pharmaceutical means, the better your pain medication will work. 120mg oxy is a whole lot, and I'm not questioning your pain, but you should try to reduce that, or at least reduce your pain so it works better.
 
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I would NOT supplement your prescribed opiate regime with anything else. You will become dependent on the larger dose, and your normal pain medication will not work.

You should look into acupuncture, meditation, pt, cbt, etc... The more you can reduce your pain through non-pharmaceutical means, the better your pain medication will work. 120mg oxy is a whole lot, and I'm not questioning your pain, but you should try to reduce that, or at least reduce your pain so it works better.
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Uhh, essential oils ARE non-pharmaceutical.:? So, put that in your pipe and smoke it. :D As far as the ganga, it was only recommended for when one is experiencing withdrawal, not to supplement one's "prescribed opiate regime," but to be used when they have less opiate medication than is usual (or less than the prescribed regime), for whatever reason...
 
Well I've been stuck between an 8-9 on the pain scale since Sunday, and after trading emails with my neurosurgeons office, I believe I'm going to undergo a CT to see if, at this point, the fusion and related titanium from my last surgery (may 1) is matching up to the titanium inserted on January 31st.

It's been very disappointing to not have made much progress since my last fusion, and my pain doctor regrettably doesn't want me smoking cannabis despite my medical recommendation. I can't really risk using it and taking a chance of having to pass a random UA and get discharged from this pain clinic, as I've been through 5 in the last 4 years already.

So with my 60mg/day of methadone, 180mg of oxycodone and some zanaflex or flexeril I am trying to do all I can on my own, in terms of diet and daily walks, to help my healing process. It is just very difficult after having 3 spine surgeries in 16 months, and 2 from this year already!

So off I go, trying to fight the good fight as we all do in this thread.

Good luck to all, I hope we all have as pain-free a day as possible.
 
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BiggDirty01 said:
Well I've been stuck between an 8-9 since Sunday, and after trading emails with my neurosurgeons office, I believe I'm going to undergo a CT to see if, at this point, the fusion and related titanium from my last surgery (may 1) is matching up to the titanium inserted on January 31st.

It's been very disappointing to not have made much progress since my last fusion, and my pain doctor regrettably doesn't want me smoking cannabis despite my medical recommendation. I can't really risk using it and taking a chance of having to pass a random UA and get discharged from this pain clinic, as I've been through 5 in the last 4 years already.

So with my 60mg/day of methadone, 180mg of oxycodone and some zanaflex or flexeril I am trying to do all I can on my own, in terms of diet and daily walks, to help my healing process. It is just very difficult after having 3 spine surgeries in 16 months, and 2 from this year already!

So off I go, trying to fight the good fight as we all do in this thread.

Good luck to all, I hope we all have as pain-free a day as possible.
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You really don't have to smoke it. Ask at your collective if they have any salves available. These work excellent for pain and inflammation. I have personally seen a limb that was inflamed for 4 years drastically reduce in size (inflamed) after a couple months of potent topical cannabis salve. It doesn't get you "stoned" per say, but personally, I feel it does help me sleep. Then you can tell your doc that you are smoking shit! :p
 
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How is everyone doing today, pain wise? I've gotten substantially better, from an 8.5 this morning to about a 4.5 right now!

I'm one happy camper.
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Good, I get my script tomorrow morning and I have felt pretty great all day. This is unusual for me... I think I am just maturing when it comes to my opiate use. I don't crave any nodding or what not. I would rather be present for my life...'cause if your nodding then you might as well be sleeping.
 
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Good, I get my script tomorrow morning and I have felt pretty great all day. This is unusual for me... I think I am just maturing when it comes to my opiate use. I don't crave any nodding or what not. I would rather be present for my life...'cause if your nodding then you might as well be sleeping.
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Totally. I don't ever shoot for a nod anymore, I don't have the luxury of being able to abuse opioid medications freely without tolerance coming back to bite me in the ass with rebound pain.
 
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I would NOT supplement your prescribed opiate regime with anything else. You will become dependent on the larger dose, and your normal pain medication will not work.

You should look into acupuncture, meditation, pt, cbt, etc... The more you can reduce your pain through non-pharmaceutical means, the better your pain medication will work. 120mg oxy is a whole lot, and I'm not questioning your pain, but you should try to reduce that, or at least reduce your pain so it works better.
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I'm not looking to ADD to my regimen. I have to cut back on my opiates until my refill so I need alternatives to fill the gaps. Believe me, I've tried everything non-substance related. I am actually more conservative with the 120mg. My dr said I should be taking closer to 160-180 (including BT meds) bc I'm tolerant to my dose. I CHOSE to stay lower. Keep in mind I've dealt with my issues for 15 yrs and I'm only 28. I've done holistic options, meditation, chiropractic care, massage therapy, physical therapy, injections, blocks, and procedures. If I could be on less medication I would. I can't. I'm already struggling with where I'm at and now have to take even less. I'm not asking to increase. I'm looking to maintain my pain level of 7-8 or at least stay out of physical withdrawl until my next appt. That is what I was asking about.

I waited up until 4 yrs ago to even take medication. It got to the point where the pain was so bad I would have panic attacks so bad that I literally couldn't breathe. I couldn't sit thru a movie. I couldn't play with my kids or pick up my 1 yr old. My house was a wreck bc I couldn't keep up with it. I sought out every option first bc I knew what would happen. This is no joke and cutting back isn't an option for me, or a lot of people. No one wants their world to revolve around a dosing schedule.
 
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I totally agree about looking into every non-narcotic and non-pharmaceutical avenue available.

After my first spinal fusion, I found myself off all narcotics within 5 months (for me, a miracle!) and with NSAIDs,Muscle Relaxers, TENs Unit, Ice, Heat, Physical Therapy, Yoga and meditation. I found myself at a 4 or 5 which from other fused spine patients is considered almost as good as it gets in terms of total overall improvement and was FINE with my daily pain levels.

However, pain flare-ups were a bitch and ran wild until they just burn themselves out, like a fire. This is the point where having opiates would be most successful in my opinion; not long term use which can make the pain worse (hyperalgesia), but an option of last resort. This would be my IDEAL circumstance, but after 2 more spine surgeries this year I am so far away from that previous lifestyle that it almost seems like it was another person in another lifetime.

Anyway, shout out to everyone that contributes to this forum because despite differing circumstances, showing up here shows a clear intention of trying to get better and all sorts of holistic therapy, doctor ordered-treaments, and fighting the urge to take more of our medications demonstrate our effort in trying to help our situations. Keep up the good fight, results will follow and accept that our expectations can't be 100% pain free, it just can't. Find peace with a certain amount of daily pain, like I did last year, and you begin enjoying the best that life has to offer. I wish good luck to us all, all day, every day!
 
I think naproxen is one of the better non-narcotic pain relievers.

BD01 makes an excellent point about accepting our new bodies, and not give up, realizing that we may not ever completely be pain-free, and accepting it. Learning how to minimize your pain, and also learn to cope with living with pain.
 
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