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<<The symptoms of ADHD are strikingly similar to indications that a child is gifted, and bored in an unchallenging classroom. In fact, these programs, and many of the syndromes they attempt to screen for, are highly questionable. Parents are wise to question them. >>

Yes, and equally dangerous when considering how knowledge is power, and so many in our government seek to block the teaching of that knowledge, such as the origins of our species and our planet, and not to mention decreased funding of our education system. The step that the corporate-Chrisitan-congress-connection will attempt to keep us dumbed through chemicals is a real and valid concern.

I will say this though, we don't need a radically revamped and universal healthcare plan to cover all Americans and completely socialize the medical industry. We do need increased funding and availability of our existing medicare and medicaid programs.
 
Paul Raises Jaw-Dropping $5 Million

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/10/paul-raises-jaw.html

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=531a0ef7-38a8-4065-96a6-2adf2e634c4f

October 03, 2007 1:16 PM

ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf Reports: It dominated headlines yesterday when Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, announced her campaign juggernaut had outpaced all rivals in the campaign fundraising horse race with a $27 million haul in the third quarter.

Today's fundraising announcement by Rep. Ron Paul, the Republican Libertarian ob-gyn from Texas, doesn't involve quite as much money, but is downright jaw-dropping.

His campaign is revealing today that in the 3rd quarter Paul raised $5,080,000. This is more than double his 2nd quarter figure of $2.4 million and no small sum for an insurgent campaign.

Comparatively, Paul's Q3 figure is five times what was raised in the same period by GOP rival former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, who is often given a better chance at the party nomination by political pundits. It puts Paul in the same fundraising neighborhood as top-tier Republican candidates like Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Paul has become the buzz candidate with his hearty and vocal supporters, omnipresent on the Internet and at campaign events. But Paul's strict Libertarianism -- he is as vocal in his opposition to the Iraq war as he is in his support for the 2nd Amendment -- could hurt him with the GOP base who will ultimately choose the Republican nominee.
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yeah...you like that number don't you MSM? Yeah...there's more where that came from. %)
 
Ron Paul Betting Odds Could be Impacted by New Voting Rules

Voting Rules Changed at Last Minute Will Shut out Votes for 2008 US Presidential candidate Ron Paul, according to Gambling911.com Special Contributor Jennifer Reynolds. Ms. Reynolds regularly reports on the Ron Paul campaign for the Gambling911.com website. Dr. Paul, as many of you already know, is opposed to the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA) and there are many in the online gambling space who would love to see him get elected into office next year.

But it turns out his own party is going to make this an even more difficult task.

"Many states, in an effort to shut out Ron Paul are now closing their primaries," reports Reynolds. "That means that only Republicans can vote in the Presidential primaries for a Republican candidate."

And this could have a tremendous impact on Ron Paul betting odds, though probably not in the next few weeks. Ron Paul odds were slashed to 6 to 1 over this past weekend, making him a bigger favorite than Mitt Romney.

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Should Ron Paul Bail on the GOP and run as an independant? I think that he should. Every news article about him just assumes that since he's running as a republican that only republicans support him. The way I see it, he's got support from mostly independants (who DON'T GET POLLED (polls are done by calling people registered for a specific party)) and some democrats and republicans. He should whore all the national attention he can, then bail and use his money to try win as an independant.
 
Jeebus Mic said:
Should Ron Paul Bail on the GOP and run as an independant? I think that he should. Every news article about him just assumes that since he's running as a republican that only republicans support him. The way I see it, he's got support from mostly independants (who DON'T GET POLLED (polls are done by calling people registered for a specific party)) and some democrats and republicans. He should whore all the national attention he can, then bail and use his money to try win as an independant.
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Ron Paul would have no chance as an independent. The republican debates and events have gotten him the most publicity. He has also said personally he wouldnt run as an independent
 
foodisgood said:
Ron Paul would have no chance as an independent. The republican debates and events have gotten him the most publicity. He has also said personally he wouldnt run as an independent
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I was saying he should whore as much media attention as he can by staying a republican, then when he loses the primary (I'm guessing he will come in 4th or 5th right around Mitt and John. He should go for broke and be and independant.
 
What? Where do you get 4th or 5th right around Mitt and John? Who would be 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in your hypothetical? Mitt, Paul, Thompson, and Giuliani are the only candidates with any chance as things stand right now, and soon Mitt will be out of the top tier.
 
honestly, hed have a better shot just waiting it out and running in 2012 if he loses. Then he would already have a pretty good base of support to start out with
 
Guiliani is the one slated to win both the Republican primary and the national election in '08 to become the next attempt at restoring the Caesarship of the Reich by those who control the majority of the political workings of the world. Should Ron Paul run as an independant, and stress conservative and Christian values, in a best case case scenario, he would draw enough votes from Republican and conservative voters, resulting in the return of a Democratic White House. That would, of course most likely be a the return of the Clintons, who didn't exactly oppose the authoritarian interests of the inner-working elites too heartily a decade ago.
 
Coolio said:
What? Where do you get 4th or 5th right around Mitt and John? Who would be 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in your hypothetical? Mitt, Paul, Thompson, and Giuliani are the only candidates with any chance as things stand right now, and soon Mitt will be out of the top tier.
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Here's my prediction when all the primaries are done with.
Guliani - 33%
Thompson - 25%
McCain - 15%
Romney - 15%
Paul - 8%
The Rest - 4%
 
Here's a wild idea, what if Guiliani picks Ron Paul to be his running mate, thus eliminating possible GOP votes lost to an independent. Not very likely, I'd imagine, but I would guess it'd be a sure win for Rudy if he did that.
 
^Thats a funny idea. I can just imagine the juxtaposed stump speeches:0
 
If it happened, I can easily imagine a scandal befalling the VP's office, created by the corporate American government war machine in early 2009. :\
 
Keeping Promises to Seniors

by Ron Paul

With our country's finances stretched thin, our credit limit fast approaching, and our currency inflated to the breaking point, there is no indication yet of any urgency on the part of Congress to rein in spending. The predictable answer to the government's voracious spending habits is this week’s proposal by some Democratic Congressional leaders for tax increases to pay for operations in Iraq . Here at home, however, there are promises our seniors heavily rely upon. We must keep these promises.

An analysis of the Social Security "Trust Fund" shows we are not doing a credible job of keeping these promises. Official reports show the trust fund having assets of $2.1 trillion. In reality, those dollars are just IOUs the government is writing to itself when it borrows from the fund to spend on unrelated programs. There are no real assets in the Social Security Trust Fund. This is similar to taking money out of your savings account, spending it, then replacing it with an IOU to yourself, and calling that IOU an asset.

In addition, this money we owe to our seniors is not even included in official budget deficit figures. In fiscal year 2006 alone, $185 billion was borrowed from Social Security. The official deficit was reported to be $248 billion. The actual deficit for 2006 would be $433 billion when combining the two. This sort of accounting would land private sector executives in prison for fraud.

Yet this is done every year by the federal government. The truth is that while politicians in Washington differ about what programs to spend Social Security money on, they are united in wanting to spend it on something other than benefits for seniors.

This approach can continue only until Social Security stops running “surpluses” the government can raid. Trustees of Social Security estimate this will happen in 2017. At that time, the amount owed to the Trust Fund will be between $4 trillion and $5.2 trillion, depending on the economy.

When that day of reckoning comes, there will no longer be “excess” payroll tax receipts available to prop up government spending, and the risk of financial crisis will be significant. Instead of forward thinking solutions, politicians are discussing alarming proposals, such as an agreement with Mexico to let their citizens collect social security money intended for our seniors. This would break the bank even sooner. But, current Members of Congress will no longer be in office to face the wrath of seniors and their families when the trust fund goes bankrupt. Instead, they will be retired and enjoying their own plush Congressional pensions.

I have been working to reverse this trend. My Social Security Preservation Act, HR 219 would make sure this Trust Fund has real assets such as certificates of deposit in FDIC-insured institutions so that in 2017 and beyond, Social Security payments would continue for those who are depending on them.

Congress must take action now, so we can keep the promises we made to our seniors.

http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst100707.htm
 
Ron Paul is a Pro-Life Canidate

sorry to break away from the Ron Paul back patting thread.. i thought this was interesting. Many Paul supporters state he's a "states rights" guy when it comes to abortion.. i think this sets the record straight. I will merge this thread with the existing thread once it's had it's run.

Life and Liberty

The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.


In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman.

In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, HR 1094.

I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.

I have also authored HR 1095, which prevents federal funds to be used for so-called “population control.”

Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken direct action to restore protection for the unborn.

As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion. Many of you may have read my book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected. Much can be understood about the civility of a society in observing its regard for the dignity of human life.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/
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I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.
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As a pro-choice supporter, I can really relate to Ron Paul's position. Unfortunately though, like with many of the issues, his position is more easily spun to the masses, than understood by them. :\
 
I don't see how the quote in the OP refutes the (IMO correct) assertion that he's a state's rights guy when it comes to abortion. Not wanting to allocate federal tax money towards abortion is very different from wanting to ban it outright. However, there is the issue of HR 1094, which I don't know much about. As long as murder is not defined as a federal crime, e.g. it is left to the states to police, then HR 1094 would not cause abortion to be banned nationwide.
 
Ron Paul is someone who has delivered hundreds of babies. I'll trust he's come to his conclusions honestly.
 
While his beliefs probably come from religion, I see nothing in the statement that invokes anything religious.
 
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