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The one and only crack thread (I think)

blondin

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It always baffled me why there wasn't a thread concentrating on rocks,stones,white,light,crack...etc seeing that most who do H often do the other. The glory days back in th e90'2 early 2000's have long gone and now decent W is no longer ubiquitous on the street. I can get proper gear but its expensive 2-3 pipes for a tenner and sometimes the shotters have 'prem' but for years its mostly been just shite from all the street dealers...there are some who have never had a proper stone just benzocrack or some other noxious substance - so what say you UK how is it around your way?
 
kinda weird that its scarce now and has been for years (proper gear) i reckon most people who score stones dont even know what it should be like so dealers are making a fucking killing..use to be like H always good and available now i only know one crew who always have old school W rest of them have shit but recently some have had proper but hit n miss.
 
My only proper experience was a couple of IV snowballs. Couldn't tell you whether it was good or bad stone, just that I was rushing pretty fucking hard, followed by an incredible nod when it wore off.

Would be tempted again, but not really a fan of coke anyway.
 
I have little sympathy for folks veins who have used crack in their snowballs. If your going to do it, think again and try not to bother. If your determined then the only sensible choice is to use good quality hydrochloride cocaine powder.

Crack has been treated to make a product that has excellent BA and instant effect when smoked. When you break it down for IV, your just undoing the effort that has gone into this process. It wont hit as quick as when smoked, and requires alot more citric / ascorbic to produce an injectable solution than brown heroin alone, which is double stress on ones wirework. I really cant see why folk cant just cook up a hit, and smoke their rock immediately prior to (or immediately after) cranking the shot of gear. You will get the same effect, which is slightly more tweakable due to the choice you have over which drug you take first, and your veins will thank you for the acid you didn't have to use when cooking up.

Crack is perfectly designed for smoking, it requires no farting around and the hit is quicker than IV. Why anyone would want to ruin it and turn it back into coke for a cheapo snowball just doesnt scan, but I know Im getting all mother hen so I still stand by each to their own and all that.
 
Crack has never "done it" for me. Jess loves it, I can take it or leave it -- and I'd rather leave it. All I have ever had from crack was a taste like burning plastic, and sometimes a "hit" that lasted about as long as poppers -- and felt totally rough afterwards.

Still, whatever lights your candle ..... or rings your bell, I suppose :\
 
To be honest Julie im the same - im not a massive fan of coke in any form its just something I occasionally buy a stone of with my gear to smoke while im cooking up / plating up / rolling tooter (delete as applicable). By the time I start on the heroin 5 minutes later the buzz has usually well worn off.
 
I have little sympathy for folks veins who have used crack in their snowballs. If your going to do it, think again and try not to bother. If your determined then the only sensible choice is to use good quality hydrochloride cocaine powder.

Crack has been treated to make a product that has excellent BA and instant effect when smoked. When you break it down for IV, your just undoing the effort that has gone into this process. It wont hit as quick as when smoked, and requires alot more citric / ascorbic to produce an injectable solution than brown heroin alone, which is double stress on ones wirework. I really cant see why folk cant just cook up a hit, and smoke their rock immediately prior to (or immediately after) cranking the shot of gear. You will get the same effect, which is slightly more tweakable due to the choice you have over which drug you take first, and your veins will thank you for the acid you didn't have to use when cooking up.

Crack is perfectly designed for smoking, it requires no farting around and the hit is quicker than IV. Why anyone would want to ruin it and turn it back into coke for a cheapo snowball just doesnt scan, but I know Im getting all mother hen so I still stand by each to their own and all that.

Dead right Stee, and if I'd had access to this site when I was fucking my life up, I might still have some decent veins left... :\
 
tbh I rarely used crack for my speedballs as I had access to v good coke - but iv'ing crack is different to smoking it - more intense and like coke sound going to 11 on the treble.
 
I was taught in medical school that the difference between smoked and injected drugs is negligibe at best. Smoked possbly being actually fater onset.

Bear in mind this is from actual nedical tests not crack/H users anacdotal "well my mate once told me........."
 
I have little sympathy for folks veins who have used crack in their snowballs. If your going to do it, think again and try not to bother. If your determined then the only sensible choice is to use good quality hydrochloride cocaine powder.

Crack has been treated to make a product that has excellent BA and instant effect when smoked. When you break it down for IV, your just undoing the effort that has gone into this process. It wont hit as quick as when smoked, and requires alot more citric / ascorbic to produce an injectable solution than brown heroin alone, which is double stress on ones wirework. I really cant see why folk cant just cook up a hit, and smoke their rock immediately prior to (or immediately after) cranking the shot of gear. You will get the same effect, which is slightly more tweakable due to the choice you have over which drug you take first, and your veins will thank you for the acid you didn't have to use when cooking up.

Crack is perfectly designed for smoking, it requires no farting around and the hit is quicker than IV. Why anyone would want to ruin it and turn it back into coke for a cheapo snowball just doesnt scan, but I know Im getting all mother hen so I still stand by each to their own and all that.
I agree with you, crack is better smoked. I have heard the reason people like to iv their rocks is that the process of making crack separates the cocaine from everything else, so u get a pure cocaine shot. plus citric acid lol.
 
Smoking ruins coke for me when I used to bother with it, I . remember having powder that would give me a lovely reverie and someone would rock it up and all I would get is jitters.
 
I was taught in medical school that the difference between smoked and injected drugs is negligibe at best. Smoked possbly being actually fater onset.

Bear in mind this is from actual nedical tests not crack/H users anacdotal "well my mate once told me........."

This is true provided the administered drug is highly lipophilic and potent by weight.
Once the gates of the alveolar membranes are jumped the drug travels straight up towards the brain with the oxygenated blood from the lungs whereas IV has to pass through the whole circulatory system first. The difference is borderline negligible but once one becomes acquainted with self-injection and the intricacies of vapourisation (no kids, this is a shite thing to practice) it's very easy to notice it.

Le Junk's Freebase ---> HCl Tek
 
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