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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

Pickledlemons said:
Sigh... I think the answer should be obvious. A vaccine injection is easy to do and has a great impact on health outcomes. A war on fast food is messy, it would involve telling private companies how to conduct their business and its just not easy to change a lifestyle, and we dont even know for sure if it would work. Vaccine rollout is an achievable goal with a real world tangible effect and no significant downside. Thats something a government can do... Thats a battle they could win. Telling people what to eat everyday, thats a battle they would lose.
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If a global vaccine rollout is achievable, then curing world hunger would have been easily achievable a long time ago. But that was never "a realistic goal". The elites don't care about our health that's why people need to begin to realize.

Why would they shut down gyms?
Lock people inside homes?
Close national parks and beaches?
Force smaller-medium businesses to close their doors and then funnel a larger concentration of people into larger corporate stores?
 
JGrimez said:
He created mRNA vaccine technology
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So HE says. Care to back this statement up with some form of proof (and what HE has posted on his Twitter profile doesn't count as proof I'm afraid). Point being if that's what he's claiming and it turns out to be shit then why would anyone take him seriously on any other matters? Helpful hint (not that it makes any difference I assure you i.e. this gets just as murky when you dig down): there's two issues at play here i.e. the mRNA vaccine concept itself as well as a separate delivery mechanism (neither of which Good 'ol Dr. Malone there can lay claim to). I mean that's quite a bold claim to be making if it's horse shit. Of course: it's the clever play on words as per usual. Frankly an if I'm right on this and I've no reason to suspect that I am at this point in time: I would have imagined that the nuking of his Twitter account would be the least of his worries because for sure if there was any way to sue the living fuck out of the dude...

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I'll save us both some trouble in trying to prove a point and getting into it:

tinyurl.com

Covid’s Forgotten Hero: The Untold Story Of The Scientist Whose Breakthrough Made The Vaccines Possible

Covid’s Forgotten Hero: The Untold Story Of The Scientist Whose Breakthrough Made The Vaccines Possible
tinyurl.com tinyurl.com

www.bu.edu

How Scientists Drew Weissman (MED’87, GRS’87) and Katalin Karikó Developed the Revolutionary mRNA Technology Inside COVID Vaccines

It started with a chance encounter, and led to worldwide acclaim for the two researchers
www.bu.edu www.bu.edu

Of course: Boston Uni. is crowing from the treetops about this because, as luck would have it, Weissman studied there in '87 from what I gather. Publicity stunt? Who the fuck knows. But if I have to start questioning information being put out there by a university well then fuck it for good. Doesn't matter which way you look or where you search on this topic of these vaccines: there's always some catch. Or so it seems anyway. Does any of this make any difference to the topic at hand? Nope. I'm well aware.

Oh and in an effort to cut the good Dr Malone some slack (although WHY is beyond me):

www.nature.com

The tangled history of mRNA vaccines

Hundreds of scientists had worked on mRNA vaccines for decades before the coronavirus pandemic brought a breakthrough.
www.nature.com www.nature.com

For what it's worth the above articles contain a lot of interesting information re: these FUCKING vaccines! They didn't just appear as if by magic out of the ether the moment we had that little situation in Wuhan. The mRNA shit had been worked on for many years. In other words: it's not quite prudent to make the assumption that the clinical trials didn't take long enough or were not thorough enough. Point being: the pharmaceutical companies were not starting with a blank or empty page in trying to expedite their manufacture and distribution.
 
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As far as the obesity thing - and why don't the governments of the world don't encourage exercise - they do!

It's not a quick fix.

Fat fuckers aren't going to suddenly see the error of their ways.
 
Perforated said:
Contributed, as one scientist amongst hundreds, yes. Created? Not according to the journal Nature.


poems about fishing in heaven

Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
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Here's one that I don't see on there:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results of the first phase I/II clinical vaccination trial with direct injection of mRNA - PubMed

Vaccination against tumor antigens has been shown to be a safe and efficacious prophylactic and therapeutic antitumor treatment in many animal models. Clinical studies in humans indicate that specific immunotherapy can also result in clinical benefits. The active pharmaceutical ingredient in...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
dalpat077 said:
But if I have to start questioning information being put out there by a university well then fuck it for good.
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There's your problem, you should've started doing that a long time ago.
Start with this one: How the Sugar Industry Lobbied Harvard Scientists to Blame Saturated Fat

dalpat077 said:
For what it's worth the above articles contain a lot of interesting information re: these FUCKING vaccines! They didn't just appear as if by magic out of the ether the moment we had that little situation in Wuhan. The mRNA shit had been worked on for many years. In other words: it's not quite prudent to make the assumption that the clinical trials didn't take long enough or were not thorough enough.
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That's one way to look at it. Another way to view it is that this was a mostly fabricated "pandemic" (the definition of which was altered back in 2009) in order to push through mandatory mRNA vaccines for ulterior reasons. And even if the technology had been developed for years, it still needs to go through extended human trials before being released to the public, let alone mandated. People do not want to admit it but they are currently taking part in clinical trials by accepting these vaccines (an Aussie newscaster even called them that on-air). The actual pre-release trials weren't conducted on sick people, pregnant women or assessed for negative reactions with other medications. These were pushed out in a desperate rush which is one reason why they're going to fail spectacularly.
 
birdup said:
As far as the obesity thing - and why don't the governments of the world don't encourage exercise - they do!

It's not a quick fix.

Fat fuckers aren't going to suddenly see the error of their ways.
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There are roughly 650,000 obesity-related, PREVENTABLE deaths in the USA each year.
So how come the global health authorities didn't care about those deaths as much as they care about deaths due to a virus that they tinkered with in a lab?
Why are those deaths more important than these ones?
Why don't they put a death count tracker on the news 24/7 showing the viewers the number of people dying each minute from obesity?

They do not care about your health.
They want you dead.
You're either a nuisance or useless to them.
 
@JGrimez

I don't like the whole fat shaming bullshit that's going on at the moment. I'm on your side, more often than you'd think. It's insane that people can't eat cannabis edibles or shrooms (which are both totally harmless) but they can become extremely fat through blatant negligence and still demand that people don't call them fat. It's madness, but - still - the government does care. What can they do other than being dictators, which is what you criticize?
 
dalpat077 said:
We should be getting paid for this shit! And become elites!
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I’ve always been in the elite my man! I just never took it that seriously once I got into the drugs and chemsex. I have trouble controlling myself, I’d be even more hopeless with a bunch of microchipped minions to take care of.

I’m happy to do this voluntarily. Noblesse Oblige and all that….
 
Electrum1 said:
Here's one that I don't see on there:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results of the first phase I/II clinical vaccination trial with direct injection of mRNA - PubMed

Vaccination against tumor antigens has been shown to be a safe and efficacious prophylactic and therapeutic antitumor treatment in many animal models. Clinical studies in humans indicate that specific immunotherapy can also result in clinical benefits. The active pharmaceutical ingredient in...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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That link leads to an absolute wealth of information supporting the potential efficacy of mRNA technology in treating a whole host of diseases - cancer especially. Plus within one or two clicks, dozens of peer-reviewed articles from researchers around the world independently analysing COVID-related data and generally confirming COVID is very serious and mRNA highly effective in dealing with it - at least in a physiological sense, if not a socio-political one.

Nice find. Thanks.
 
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How is this possible ?
The ‘experts’ asserted that if you were ‘’fully vaccinated’’ (i.e : injected twice) that you couldn’t catch COVID.
Then they asserted that if you were ‘’fully vaccinated’’ you were less likely to catch COVID.
But now the data shows that the ‘’fully vaccinated’’ adults are MORE likely to catch COVID.
How is it that a ‘vaccine’ that is meant to stop you catching a virus - actually increases your chances of catching it ?

Are we seeing what many true experts warned - that theses novel & experimental genetic agents might give you some short term protection, but would weaken your immune system in the long run ?

Surely it is madness to now ‘double down’ and inject people a third time ?
 
JGrimez said:
The ‘experts’ asserted that if you were ‘’fully vaccinated’’ (i.e : injected twice) that you couldn’t catch COVID.
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This is a virus that has affected every country in the world so you can easily say "the experts" and quote a couple of people who are legitimate scientists, but that doesn't mean shit as far as I'm concerned. I care about the consensus. Not because I'm a sheep. I lean towards popular science because - if I'm going to believe any scientists - I might as well believe most of them... again, you can cherry pick examples of historic mainstream science blunders. So what? I don't think "the experts" said what you're saying they said. Which experts? Are we talking about the majority or a minority?

Some so-called experts said it. A bunch of quasi scientific political types said this sort of shit. Nobody that was developing the vaccines said it, because - at a fundamentally basic level - that's not how vaccines work.

The polio vaccine was not 100% effective. The flu vaccine is not 100% effective.

If there is a rule, it is this: vaccines are not 100% effective. Every virologist and immunologist is aware of this.

If some fuckwit said otherwise, that doesn't negate the positive benefits of the vaccine.

There are positive benefits. You don't need to be a scientist to determine that, but - if you insist on grounding your beliefs in science - you shouldn't be biased. That's science 101... and, sure, you can say, hell: other people are biased.... and maybe they are. Seriously. I don't know.

Then they asserted that if you were ‘’fully vaccinated’’ you were less likely to catch COVID.
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The jury is out on whether or not that is true about Omicron, but you can't expect people to predict the future. It appears as if Omicron is much more contagious and much less deadly. I'm not going to announce anything yet, but I've been studying the data and it is good.

Vaccines do make you less likely to catch COVID. Particularly those who are boosted and/or have a combination of different vaccines.

But now the data shows that the ‘’fully vaccinated’’ adults are MORE likely to catch COVID.
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I don't think so.

Edited. Sorry. Was too fucked up last night.
 
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I genuinely don't understand how so hesitant people are about the vaccine.

I understand the hesitancy, don't get me wrong.

I just don't get the obsessiveness.

I'm staying in a beachside house with my family this holiday. First time we've all been able to be together for a long time. My daughter had never met her uncle until a week ago because of COVID.
 
www.brighteon.com

Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis in Children

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www.naturalnews.com

49-year-old New York Times editor dies just one day after getting Moderna booster shot

New York Times Deputy Asia Editor Carlos Tejada died of a heart attack just one day after receiving the Moderna booster vaccination. Tejada, who was just 49 years old, was married with two children and worked on the paper's coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic, among other things. He worked at
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On Instagram, Tejada wrote shortly before his death: “Double-vaxxed. Janssen-fueled, Moderna-boosted. Hey, Omicron: hit me with your wet snot” and then added that “All I had to do was fill out this form in a language I cant read. Translation software tells me I now belong to the BTS army.”

He was dead less than 24 hours later. His wife posted on Instagram: “This is Carlos’s wife, Nora. It’s with deepest sorrow that I have to share with you that Carlos passed away last night of a heart attack. I’ve lost my best friend and our kids lost a truly great dad. I will be off social media for awhile.”
 
Perforated said:
That link leads to an absolute wealth of information supporting the potential efficacy of mRNA technology in treating a whole host of diseases - cancer especially. Plus within one or two clicks, dozens of peer-reviewed articles from researchers around the world independently analysing COVID-related data and generally confirming COVID is very serious and mRNA highly effective in dealing with it - at least in a physiological sense, if not a socio-political one.

Nice find. Thanks.
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Yeah. Happy to support using the tech to attack cancerous tumors. I'm going to hold off on trusting it to be used against rapidly mutating/evolving viruses for now. I saw a paper about another mRNA trial from around the same time that looked good too, but I didn't save it. I'll see if I can find it and share after I get done messing with stocks later today.
 
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