Another few years of it and the entire planet will effectively be smothered under a giant face mask made from discarded single-use plastic PPE waste...
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Another few years of it and the entire planet will effectively be smothered under a giant face mask made from discarded single-use plastic PPE waste...
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all I can think of are transformer's robot's in disguise. 
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Refugees lack COVID shots because drugmakers fear lawsuits, documents show
Tens of millions of migrants may be denied COVID-19 vaccines from a global programme because some major manufacturers are worried about legal risks from harmful side effects, according to officials and internal documents from Gavi, the charity operating the programme, reviewed by Reuters.
Well would you look at that, shots are only "safe" if you can't sue the manufacturers.
Jerry Atrick
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I'll just put this here
Deceptive videos used to link athlete deaths to COVID shots
This article, published yesterday, appears to refute the video in the OP of this thread.
Deceptive videos used to link athlete deaths to COVID shots
This article, published yesterday, appears to refute the video in the OP of this thread.
Jerry Atrick
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Quick question, how are y'all posting the links to articles inside the blue box with a preview??I’m just going to interject this for the record as we are a harm reduction community with some people who like to bang drugs.
Fentanyl-contaminated drugs and non-fatal overdose among people who inject drugs in Baltimore, MD - Harm Reduction Journal
Background The opioid crisis remains a major public health issue in the US and beyond. Despite rapid rises in fentanyl-related mortality nationally, little is known about the role of fentanyl in the occurrence of non-fatal overdose among people who use drugs. We examined the prevalence of...harmreductionjournal.biomedcentral.com
Anybody IVing and scared to get the vax?
When I post a link, it just turns the text blue with no box.
Jerry Atrick
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Deceptive videos used to link athlete deaths to COVID shots
By ANGELO FICHERA and SOPHIA TULP December 17, 2021Jake West was a seemingly healthy 17-year-old when he collapsed during high school football practice in Indiana and died of sudden cardiac arrest. A video widely shared online falsely suggests COVID-19 vaccination is to blame, weaving headlines about him into a rapid-fire compilation of news coverage about athletes collapsing.
The vaccine played no role in West’s death — he died from an undiagnosed heart condition in 2013, seven years before the pandemic began.
The video is just one example of many similar compilations circulating on the internet that use deceptive tactics to link vaccines to a supposed wave of deaths and illness among the healthiest people, often athletes, a claim for which medical experts say there is no supporting evidence.
The clips inundate viewers with a barrage of stories and headlines delivered without context, some translated from other languages and offering few details people can check on their own.
They are highly effective at spreading misinformation using a strategy that sows doubt and bypasses critical analysis, capitalizing on emotion, according to Norbert Schwarz, a professor of psychology and marketing at the University of Southern California.
“It’s designed to foster that feeling that the vaccines may be risky,” Schwarz said. “You’re doing that with material that seems real, because it is real. All of these events actually happened, they just have nothing to do with the vaccines.”
The nearly four-minute montage that included West’s story originated on “The HighWire,” an online talk show hosted by Del Bigtree that is popular among the anti-vaccine community, and gradually became magnified via social media.
It takes the viewer through more than 50 cases of medical emergencies in rapid succession while eerie music plays and a beating heart pulses in the background, ending with somber images of medics and teammates rushing to fallen athletes.
After airing the video, Bigtree noted on his show that there is “no proof” vaccines were responsible for the cases — even while suggesting they might be.
“All of these sports are mandating this vaccine on everybody in order to play, and I can only ask the very simple question, do you ever remember hearing a story of an athlete having a heart attack on the field?” Bigtree said.
Yet cases of sudden cardiac arrest — an abrupt malfunction of the heart, different from a heart attack — have long been documented among young athletes.
One analysis based on 2016 emergency medical services data estimated that there are more than 23,000 pediatric, out-of-hospital cardiac arrest cases in the U.S. annually — 4,000 of which were caused by primarily cardiac issues.
Dr. Jonathan Drezner, director of the University of Washington’s Center for Sports Cardiology, said there is “no scientific evidence” that either COVID-19 or the mRNA vaccines have increased sudden cardiac arrest, often referred to as SCA, among athletes.
“SCA has been the leading cause of sudden death in athletes during sports and exercise well before the pandemic ever began,” Drezner said. “There is no evidence that the cases shown in that video were caused by a vaccine.”
A rare risk of myocarditis, a condition that causes inflammation of the heart and tends to occur mostly in young men and teen boys, has been associated with the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna. Those affected usually recover quickly, however, and health officials have concluded that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks.
Experts point out that COVID-19 itself carries the risk of myocarditis, too.
Dr. Jonathan Kim, chief of sports cardiology at Emory University School of Medicine and team cardiologist for Atlanta’s NFL, NBA and MLB teams, also disputed the claim that such cardiac issues among athletes are increasing.
“One of the key points that all of us in the sports cardiology community are really trying to emphasize is there have been tragic cases of athletes dying before COVID, and after COVID ends there are going to be tragic cases of sudden cardiac death,” Kim said.
Still, the claims circulate widely online and gain traction in anti-vaccine circles.
Dr. Robert Malone, a self-identified inventor, and now skeptic, of the technology used in some COVID-19 vaccines, shared the “HighWire” video with his more than 440,000 Twitter followers, saying: “Safe and effective?”
Malone deleted it in late November, around the same time a lawyer sent a cease-and-desist order on behalf of the West family. He did not respond to an AP request for comment, but tweeted that he took the video down after learning it had been “doctored.”
While a lack of details makes it impossible to check every case mentioned in the “HighWire” video, many the AP was able to examine had no connection with COVID-19 vaccines. Some local reporting showed environmental factors such as heat exhaustion or different underlying conditions could have played a role.
An early version of the video showed clips of the University of Florida’s Keyontae Johnson collapsing during a basketball game, as did other compilations. But Johnson’s collapse was in December 2020, before vaccines were widely available. University officials confirmed to AP that he was not vaccinated at the time.
Others featured in the video were Florida teen Ryne Jacobs, who collapsed during tennis practice in January 2021, and Danish soccer player Christian Eriksen, who suffered cardiac arrest on the field this June during a match vs. Finland. Neither were vaccinated, according to Jacobs’ family and Eriksen’s club.
The video was updated weeks later after issues were raised with some of the stories it included. Johnson’s and Jacobs’ cases were removed after they were found to be “no longer relevant due to timing or newly disclosed medical records or statements,” Bigtree said in an emailed statement.
West’s story remains in the latest iteration, as do other disputed cases, such as that of Jack Alkhatib, a 17-year-old South Carolina student who died during football practice in August. His mother, Kelly Hewins Alkhatib, said an autopsy revealed he had a rare heart disease unrelated to vaccines.
Some of the other athletes had reportedly received the vaccine, though the status of many others isn’t clear. At least one, Dutch speed skater Kjeld Nuis, reportedly experienced pericarditis after being vaccinated, but he posted on Instagram soon after that he had recovered.
For West’s family members, who have worked to raise awareness about sudden cardiac arrest through their Play for Jake Foundation, seeing his story co-opted in the service of spreading anti-vaccine misinformation has been distressing. His mother, Julie West, questioned whether those behind the videos ever considered the feelings of parents.
“My tragedy of losing my son is always upsetting, and to think that somebody would use that for their gain is very upsetting,” she said. “It’s mind-boggling to me that there are people out there like that that want to spread or have their own agenda.”
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Associated Press writer Mark Long in Gainesville, Fla., contributed to this report.
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Here's an article Dr. Robert Malone posted on Twitter. Even though the site feels like a fear mongering site, they did recently update the article to include Dec. 15-18th. If people want to see each individuals name, then this is the only place I found that actually compiled a long list of all the athletes names and other details.
1241 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 839 Dead, After COVID Injection - Real Science
It is not normal for young athletes to suffer cardiac arrest or death while playing sport, but most of these come shortly after a COVID shot.
goodsciencing.com
@Jerry Atrick it depends on the article linked. I’m not sure how the platform decides what the link appears as. If you have multiple sources for the desired link, try a few as some come up boxed while others you get the blue font.
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All these scientific numbers, papers, studies and shit won't get you anywhere. Keep it simple stupid.
A shot of vaccine into my ball-sack to ensure my future off-spring's immunity is where it's at. Forget Gramps...she's doomed. We have to look to the future now.
Mandatory Ball-sack Booster Jabbs.
A shot of vaccine into my ball-sack to ensure my future off-spring's immunity is where it's at. Forget Gramps...she's doomed. We have to look to the future now.
Mandatory Ball-sack Booster Jabbs.
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Maybe it makes your Ballsack muscles balloon in size like Covid can do to muscles.
Muscles can balloon in size as a strange new side-effect of COVID-19
Biopsies of the most powerful muscle in the thigh from 18 COVID patients revealed the muscles in four of them increased "massively" while in the ICU.
www.studyfinds.org
Jerry Atrick
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I skimmed over most of this list but noticed the majority of those listed did not say whether the athlete had been vaxxed or not. This is the type of listing I am seeing:Here's an article Dr. Robert Malone posted on Twitter. Even though the site feels like a fear mongering site, they did recently update the article to include Dec. 15-18th. If people want to see each individuals name, then this is the only place I found that actually compiled a long list of all the athletes names and other details.
1241 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 839 Dead, After COVID Injection - Real Science
It is not normal for young athletes to suffer cardiac arrest or death while playing sport, but most of these come shortly after a COVID shot.goodsciencing.com
30/10/21 USA Dead
Jason Aguilar (16), a sophomore accounting major and track athlete, died. He was found unresponsive in his room. This entry needs to be investigated, because the suicide may refer to a different man with the same name. Coles County Coroner Ed Schniers said cause of death unknown at the time but after autopsy gave a suicide verdict, according to some websites, but a coroner’s report is not available.
Just because this guy ^ was an athlete and died, possibly by suicide no less, the writer of the article included his name. No mention of vax status given. Seems like they are grasping at straws if you ask me.
I live in a state where American football is pretty much the most popular sport for kids to participate in as students. I've read about high school football players dropping dead from heat exhaustion and heart attacks nearly my whole life. Suddenly because covid came out and vaccines encouraged, all of them are dying from the vaccine.
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Yeah, I just figured since it appears that there is in fact a big rise of sudden deaths in athletes, that if people want to actually see the names, then that's the most comprehensive list I have found. I'm honestly not even interested in discussing/debating weather its vax or covid related. I do think it could be related, but I just don't care enough until there's a lot more evidence.
33% is very optomistic.
When I look at the few scientific papers They have all said nothing at all. There was the one paper quoted a few pages back that said literally said no effect after 5 months but 4x improvement if you get a booster...
The % usefulness rated by manufacturers can be very misleading. When you get a vaccine your body produces antibodies to the invader. The number of antibodies produced is huge but many won't actually be successful against the real virus. The manufacturers have a claim based on the average number of correct antibodies produced in the average person after receiving a vaccine.
The 33% claim is difficult to believe because there are 39 mutations on the spike protien from delta to omicron and simply put we need a new vaccine like square 1.
The difficult part now is the vaccine companies, media and our governments have kept saying to take these previously semi working vaccines that are made with something a bit off from the real virus.
With the target virus moved so far from the bandaid vaccine my next real question is, can those people who have been vaccinated still produce immunity if they get omicron before they get their safety jabs? Is there such a thing as grandfathered immunity?
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I'm not going to conclude 0% on Omicron yet, but - clearly - the strain is quite vax resistant. This isn't something I'm going to celebrate. I wouldn't celebrate it if I was an anti-vaxxer, even though it's perfect fodder for "I told you so" type comments... because, at the end of the day, this is a deadly virus that might evolve into something much more deadly. It took the Spanish Flu approximately 3000 years to emerge from influenza. I don't want thousands of years of death from COVID. I was (naively) hoping Omicron was a way out.
Let's discuss it with numbers otherwise you're just doing what you did with the number 50.
I'm not going to conclude 0% on Omicron yet, but - clearly - the strain is quite vax resistant. This isn't something I'm going to celebrate. I wouldn't celebrate it if I was an anti-vaxxer, even though it's perfect fodder for "I told you so" type comments... because, at the end of the day, this is a deadly virus that might evolve into something much more deadly. It took the Spanish Flu approximately 3000 years to emerge from influenza. I don't want thousands of years of death from COVID. I was (naively) hoping Omicron was a way out.
Let's discuss it with numbers otherwise you're just doing what you did with the number 50.
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From my understanding, vax shots should produce T and B cell memory, that can be used down the road if reinfected, but will it be effective against mutated strains is my question, or will the immune response be to create the wrong antibodies that the narrow vax taught the immune system to create. I have my doubts, especially considering the amount of vaxd people getting the Omicron variant. Hopefully these vax shots aren't stopping immune systems from being able to adapt quicker compared to non vaxxed immune systems. Hopefully, Omicron is another step towards increased spread while being less severe, so we can finally reach "common cold" levels, which some could argue that it pretty much is. Guess we'll see.
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Electrum1 said:
I haven't even attempted to try and understand the science because it is far beyond the level of casual edutainment. You can't sit down while stoned, in other words, and learn (much) by watching YouTube videos.
I think this is one of the frustrating things about viruses. The average person doesn't have the foundation to understand what is going on.
I don't know what a T cell is. I don't know what a spike protein is. You won't catch me having conversations where I pretend to understand the science, because I don't.
When I have dental work done, I trust my dentist.
I am speaking for myself, here. You probably know more about this stuff than I do because I know literally nothing. It is not my area of expertise.
@birdup
I wish it was a way out. There is still hope that it is less deadly.
Vaccinating against a mutating virus should only be done with elderly or compromised people. The pre-grown anti-bodies seem like a much better solution as they can be used after infection.
If you really want to vaccinate the world you must start in third world countries first. This Panic demic has been poorly approached from the very beginning and what is really happening?
How did we let our governments get this kind of authority over the populations?
This is really a great opportunity for the population to retake control of our governments. The current model is so old it needs to be disolved. Our Parliments probably won't actually even meet for a month or make a single positive decision before February. Our society has accelerated to the speed of the internet but our systems are still in the stone age.
I wish it was a way out. There is still hope that it is less deadly.
Vaccinating against a mutating virus should only be done with elderly or compromised people. The pre-grown anti-bodies seem like a much better solution as they can be used after infection.
If you really want to vaccinate the world you must start in third world countries first. This Panic demic has been poorly approached from the very beginning and what is really happening?
How did we let our governments get this kind of authority over the populations?
This is really a great opportunity for the population to retake control of our governments. The current model is so old it needs to be disolved. Our Parliments probably won't actually even meet for a month or make a single positive decision before February. Our society has accelerated to the speed of the internet but our systems are still in the stone age.
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I posted a link and deleted it, because I think this one is better. If you are interested: https://irepertoire.com/t-cell-and-b-cell-overview/
T cells can be stored in bone marrow and elicit an immune response for 10 years, even life.
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I can see stuff you have deleted and edited because I'm a mod. I also know your middle name and your social security number.
I'm not interested in learning the science. I'm not a science guy. I did very well in maths and physics in school (including university) but I don't enjoy it. It feels soulless to me. I'm good at numbers and bad with people, but I like people.
I don't want to know what a spike protein is, in the same way I don't need to double check dentistry before getting a filling. I have faith in society. Call me a sheep. I sleep well at night.
I hear what you're saying, baker.
If I was American I'd be more prone to conspiracy, but I trust the Australian government. Your constitution is designed around freedom which allows for politicians to be free to be corrupt and citizens free to question them.
The Australian (and UK) system prioritizes anti-corruption over freedom.
I'm not interested in learning the science. I'm not a science guy. I did very well in maths and physics in school (including university) but I don't enjoy it. It feels soulless to me. I'm good at numbers and bad with people, but I like people.
I don't want to know what a spike protein is, in the same way I don't need to double check dentistry before getting a filling. I have faith in society. Call me a sheep. I sleep well at night.
I hear what you're saying, baker.
If I was American I'd be more prone to conspiracy, but I trust the Australian government. Your constitution is designed around freedom which allows for politicians to be free to be corrupt and citizens free to question them.
The Australian (and UK) system prioritizes anti-corruption over freedom.