birdup
Bluelight Crew
So fucking do something about it
I have no control over it.
I accept the way the world is.
So fucking do something about it
First off @birdup do you actually hear what I am saying? Before you run off and pick up some numbers that don't even relate to it, which is what pro vax people constantly do.I'll read whatever numbers you provide. I've been having the same discussion with many people over the past year or so, including lots of people IRL and even some people on Facebook. So far, nobody has been able to explain to me why the vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths are among the unvaccinated in Australia when the vast majority of people are vaccinated.
There is a pattern in discussions with anti-vaxxers. I ask them something specific and they reply about something else entirely... or, at best, they zoom out and say something generic that totally avoids the question at hand.
There is too much data to casually examine and make uneducated offhand conclusions about efficacy. If we can jump from Sweden to NSW to Florida at a second's notice, the discussion will never end.
It's best to focus on a particular area.
This is what I propose: you choose an area and I'll choose one.
We can discuss numbers in the context of those two areas.
Krinkle challenged me on a US state a while back and I analysed the data and it was consistent with my perspective. If I fail to see a flaw in your argument and I acknowledge a flaw in my own, I will admit defeat.
We may not know The Who exactly, but the what is the same as it’s been for millennias, money power and control………First off @birdup do you actually hear what I am saying? Before you run off and pick up some numbers that don't even relate to it, which is what pro vax people constantly do.
Canada. Covid deaths
- Deaths from covid-19 in care homes.
- Death outside of care homes from Covid -19 over 80
What's left?
- people who were already dying from other causes.
The final result.
So where ever you source those numbers from I don't care because they really can't falsify everything although the stats Canada thing I hope was some kind of reformatting the database or something, (ancient SQL lookups hidden under a pretty front page).
Worldmeters has numbers, and show the huge adjust that was done in July of 2020 where about 4000 early covid reports were just disappeared. It looked like in months 1 and 2 there were extra reported cases that never had results so it made it look like the plague was nearly 4× reality. Eventually the numbers got going but it did appear there was some falsification in early Canadian reporting if you look at world meter.
World meter says 30K deaths over the 2 years. Media everywhere in Canada have spoken to the over 50% of all deaths in Canada occuring in seniors homes.
So the only number I honestly can't just show you is the accurate count of death by age in Canada attributed to Covid-19. So look at this number where you would like as it will probably be either the same or worse because Canada has a lot of care homes due to a heavier social practice.
For me personally this now a very charged argument. The virus is the diversion we can argue all day, money, power, control these are what are at play. The human population has always been a shield in a war this is no different. We don't really know who is after exactly what but the population will suffer as poor decisions are being made.
You told me my data was wrong and where did I get it from...I'm not sure specifically what you want me to analyze about the Canadian data?
FxdWe may not know The Who exactly, but the what is meet the new boss, same as the old boss ...it’s been for millennias, money power and control………
It appears that at least 55% of the deaths in Canada actually occured in senior care homes.
the Vaccines appear to be below 50% against Delta
@Yourbaker
I guess I wasn't specific enough about what data I was challenging.
I wasn't challenging this^
I was challenging this:
I'm honestly not even sure what this means. Which vaccine? What does below 50% mean? Are you talking about reducing hospitalization rates or death rates or just case numbers. If it's the latter, why ignore the more relevant data (hospitalization/death)?
EDIT: as for most deaths occurring in aged care homes (or, generally, with elderly people)... I'm not sure what the point is? I don't want my grandmother to die.
Of the 8,660 cases hospitalised, only 5.7 per cent (493) had received two doses of a vaccine and just 3.0 per cent (30) of the 1,015 cases who were admitted to ICU were fully vaccinated.
Absolutely!! It's all so inverted.
Yeah again you are not looking at anything I was talking about.@Yourbaker
data?
source?
Let's examine the data.
I can prove to you that it is much more effective than 50%
News - COVID-19 vaccination highly effective during Delta outbreak in NSW
www.health.nsw.gov.au
95% of the state is vaccinated.