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Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!

I don't necessarily believe the vaccine is less safe than catching COVID the natural way, but it's pretty clear that we were grossly misled about the safety of these vaccines and were railroaded into taking them under "emergency authorization" that is still dragging on after two years.

Look at how quickly newsmedia/government seized upon Omicron to re-ignite the COVID panic when it seemed to be waning. Only a few cases have even been discovered regionally.
 
MydriHaze said:
I don't know, simply sharing information is enough, no needs to put your ego with the logos in the history...
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Hope everyone reads this. I have a feeling some people don't think it applies to them as well.

Yet, politics is politics. It's never really been about "being the bigger man"... Has it?

You can't just give good information to antivaxxers and hope they'll believe it, can you 🤔

Plus I think people deserve some flack if all they do in a debate is insult you and say nothing towards they're point. At least I was stating my point and argument paired with insults, instead of just pure insults. I digress.... This thread sux
 
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thujone said:
... the healthcare industry - rife with malpractice scandals and that laundry list of pharmaceutical industry sins for which financial settlements are still owed. need I even mention all those eugenics programs carried out under the guise of healthcare in the past? Tuskegee, Nazis, Unit 731
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Let's not forget that the eugenics movement wasn't the brainchild of the Nazi's either and was actually closer to home than most imagine (USA and UK). The American state of wokeness, California, forcibly sterilized upwards of 20,000 people between 1909 and 1979 Wiki: Eugenics in California The intelligentsia and upper crust of the Anglo-American establishment who birthed Eugenics and whom resonate with other similar reprehensible philosophies, they never actually went away. Just as we also now see the fascistic tendencies of our ruling class now coming to the foreground once again, these people are only 1 or 2 generations removed from the psychopathic derangement of their ancestors.

I really don't understand how people can't see how the pharmaceutical industry can act as a vector for the malicious intents of these powerful psychopathic ruling class types. They are precisely the ones who have controlling stakes and influence in these companies, and who have essentially created a market for themselves by shutting out all other competition through targeted propaganda and "education" over a couple of generations. The result is what you have now, where to even dare question vaccines, viral theory, germ theory, etc, is seen as heresy.. when this is not in the spirit of scientific inquiry. Nothing should be immune to question and investigation, and that includes long held beliefs in medical science.

You only need examine the several other epidemics/pandemics that failed to take off over the past two decades to see the same pattern we see right now; Pharmaceuticals, mainstream media, governments, and health bodies, all act in unison and collusion. I think people struggle to separate their emotions and fears of ill-health/death out of the equation, and instead to prefer not to contemplate the idea that our paradigm could be wrong and also be manipulated by those with psychopathic intent.
 
neversickanymore said:
www.frontiersin.org

Review of COVID-19 Myocarditis in Competitive Athletes: Legitimate Concern or Fake News?

Since the first reported case of COVID-19 in December 2019, the global landscape has shifted toward an unrecognizable paradigm. The sports world has not been immune to these ramifications; all major sports leagues have had abbreviated seasons, fan attendance has been eradicated, and athletes...
www.frontiersin.org www.frontiersin.org
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Champion post.

For those unwilling or unable to read it, it reveals that Covid viral infection itself has been identified in quality medical research in multiple countries to link to myocarditis in athletes at various professional and semi-professional levels.

That is, potentially deadly myocarditis appears to be a symptom of catching COVID.
 
Perforated said:
Champion post.

For those unwilling or unable to read it, it reveals that Covid viral infection itself has been identified in quality medical research in multiple countries to link to myocarditis in athletes at various professional and semi-professional levels.

That is, potentially deadly myocarditis appears to be a symptom of catching COVID.
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they were all vaxed bro no 1 has been playing sports without the vax they were some of the first to get vaxed they didnt get covid
 
None of this sounds good post-vax:
"before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary"

"To our surprise, we observed quite consistent pathophysiological changes regarding electrolyte contents, coagulation profiles, renal function as well as cholesterol and glucose metabolic-related features, as if these people had experienced an infection with SARS-CoV-2. In addition, PBMCs scRNA-seq results also indicated consistent reductions in CD8+ T cells and increases in monocyte contents, as well as enhanced NF-κB inflammatory signaling, which also mimicked responses after infection. Surprisingly, type I interferon responses, which had been linked to reduced damages after SARS-CoV-2 infection and milder symptoms, appeared to be reduced after vaccination, at least by 28 days post the 1st inoculation. This might suggest that in the short-term (1 month) after vaccination, a person’s immune system is in a non-privileged state, and may require more protection."

Towards the beginning is says: "Despite some uncertainties regarding potential consequences, large-scale vaccinations are taking place in many countries."

"Historically, vaccine research has been focused on whether or not vaccination could generate neutralizing antibodies to protect against viral infections, whereas short-term and long-term influences of the various newly developed vaccines to human pathophysiology and other perspectives of the human immune system have not been fully investigated."

Can read the study and results here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3
 
-=SS=- said:
Well shit, if you want the details then you're going to have to ask one of the conspirators, and I ain't one of them so.

Genocide/population reduction, sterilization? Possibly. Bill Gates and others connected with what's going on are linked to eugenicist philosophy. Maybe that's a side goal. Who knows, I can't prove it either way. What is clear at this point is that there is a coordinated effort to get vaccine passports rolled out everywhere, even though the scientific and logical evidence does not support this at all. If Tony Blair says its inevitable and is actively promoting it, then that surely is an indication something is afoot given his track record.

They know the public would never accept it otherwise, because any smart individual will immediately realise the potential for this digital passport to morph into a wider digitalID, and that is exactly what is being talked about. There's real talk of digital currencies at the moment, programmable ones at that. You only need to look to China to see what could become of life here.

I think this video might be of interest to you and others who want the broader explanation, from someone who was in your camp not long ago.
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I can't help but go back to the axiom that humans are too weak for freedom. I know three nurses, two of whom work in the pediatric ICU, and the hospitals are being flooded with injured children now. We're talking hundreds in one week. The first 500 pages of Pfzier data released to the American public under this almighty 55-75 year release plan shows that the death rate was greater than 1% in 90 days, and over 100,000 Americans were injured.

It's so clearly about rolling out passports and new digital controls. These psychos just can't leave it alone. It's like an itch they have to scratch. And the investment this time is HUGE, in the trillions of dollars. Here in Canada, our Prime Minister is so obviously trying to bankrupt Canada. If you don't get vaccinated you have your resources cut off; if you get vaxed and get injured, there's no recourse, even if someone believes you; and if you got vaxed and got your passport, they're about to roll out 3rd and 4th shots.

Like, how fucking stupid is the average person? I talked to a woman in the street yesterday about a friend of mine who had myocarditis from the vaccine in June. She said, "What's myocarditis???" I was like WTF.

In the beginning good info was fringe but now there is such a wealth of scientific info showing this is total fucking bullshit. They are straight up lying to push through digital controls. WHY CAN'T PEOPLE SEE THE OBVIOUS???

I'm sorry SS, but I think the game is over. People are letting their countries be taken over by the neo-liberal sociopaths. The only country that seems to have a fighting chance is the United States because the population is armed and the right wing have an inherent distrust of government. Everywhere else, I dunno. Poor countries are OK because they can't afford the vax anyway, and they have natural immunity now. South Africa refused more Pfizer vaccine and a week later the latest lie came out that SA is the origin of omicron, and they banned flights from SA all over the world.

I am so, so pissed that we are entering another dystopian cycle and people are just LETTING it happen. It hasn't even been 100 years since WWII and it's already happening again. Fucking lemmings. Fucking sheep. I am so angry at the common person right now. Fucking morons whose children are vax injured, and they post online saying that it was worth it and their kids will still be getting the second shot. Like honestly, if people are offering up their injured children for more poison then there is NO HOPE.
 
I'm just so tired of it all. How long does a virus gotta last. I thought they had short life spans. Thay's why you getta flue and it goes away.

Yeah yeah yeah. The world's goin ta end. And?

It's goin on bout three years everyone's still hooo in and haaw in and are still here.

I don't think anything would be ANY different with or without a vaccine. Scratches head.
??? o_O

AND everyone should have a right to choose.
 
www.nejm.org

Safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Setting | NEJM

Original Article from The New England Journal of Medicine — Safety of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Setting
www.nejm.org

Looks at the issue. 1 to 5 in 100,000 and those 1 or 5 usually recover. Wait.. freak out… again wait.. freak out.


I talked with a very old good friend today and he could not talk to me because of political shit. I was not even talking politics as it’s awfully wretched and I don’t give a fuck. They have even given up one of their great loves.. live music because “musicians are freeloading leftist socialists”. Smoke another dab because why not at this point? I was left scratching my head. So your giving up live music to concentrate more heavily on tv news propaganda. Well that’s the stupidest shit I heard today.
 
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Awesome studies though. Life span of a virus is short. Stay healthy from any flu strains.

. Further studies will be needed to estimate the potential of long-term adverse events.

Funding and Disclosures​

Supported by the Ivan and Francesca Berkowitz Family Living Laboratory Collaboration at Harvard Medical School and Clalit Research Institute. Dr. Lipsitch receives support from the Morris–Singer Foundation.
Disclosure forms provided by the authors are available with the full text of this article at NEJM.org.
Drs. Barda and Dagan and Drs. Reis and Balicer contributed equally to this article.
Because of data privacy regulations, the raw data for this study cannot be shared.
This article was published on August 25, 2021, at NEJM.org.
We thank Oren Miron for his valuable advice.
 
Electrum1 said:
None of this sounds good post-vax:
"before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary"

"To our surprise, we observed quite consistent pathophysiological changes regarding electrolyte contents, coagulation profiles, renal function as well as cholesterol and glucose metabolic-related features, as if these people had experienced an infection with SARS-CoV-2. In addition, PBMCs scRNA-seq results also indicated consistent reductions in CD8+ T cells and increases in monocyte contents, as well as enhanced NF-κB inflammatory signaling, which also mimicked responses after infection. Surprisingly, type I interferon responses, which had been linked to reduced damages after SARS-CoV-2 infection and milder symptoms, appeared to be reduced after vaccination, at least by 28 days post the 1st inoculation. This might suggest that in the short-term (1 month) after vaccination, a person’s immune system is in a non-privileged state, and may require more protection."

Towards the beginning is says: "Despite some uncertainties regarding potential consequences, large-scale vaccinations are taking place in many countries."

"Historically, vaccine research has been focused on whether or not vaccination could generate neutralizing antibodies to protect against viral infections, whereas short-term and long-term influences of the various newly developed vaccines to human pathophysiology and other perspectives of the human immune system have not been fully investigated."

Can read the study and results here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3
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Also, here's a short thread with links about Pfizer adverse event data recently obtained through FOIA request. Posted by Aaron Kheriaty MD, Professor of Psychiatry at UCI Irvine and Director of Medical Ethics at UCI Irvine.
 
Of course it's the vaccine. The mRNA doesn't stay in the deltoid like it was supposed to. But did that lead to recalls? Nope. Instead, you have people producing the spike protein locally in their heart muscle, causing myocarditis. The ones who will feel it the most are the athletic because the demand on their hearts is greater.

Skeptics in this thread need to do some reading beyond the first 50 search engine results that Google gives them of "fact checkers". Use your fucking brains. The hospitals are flooded with heart problems every week, and now children are among them. WAKE UP

The first 500 pages of Pfizer's trial data released by the U.S. courts shows that in 90 days they had a 3% severe adverse reaction rate and a death rate higher than 1%. As for now we can't view the full report for 70 years. This fucking scam has to stop.
 
They should give away free insulin and chemo.
And control that too.
Whatever. It's just all too sad. I'm taking a break from it. Maybe.
 
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