Bagseed
Bluelighter
lol okay then
Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
It is, but you seem to be missing the point. Let me break it down for you.
Claiming there is a conspiracy for sure, but not knowing or being able to describe what it is creates a situation where no matter what contradictory information comes out which proves your idea less than plausible, you can just shift your theory to avoid all debunking. People can literally disprove ALL of what you think and you can still say "well the real conspiracy is something else".
It creates a situation where you claim something to be true but do not allow people to prove you wrong.
Do you see the problem with this?
You see, UFO nuts believe aliens visit earth. Even though 98% of UFO "evidence" is bullshit and can be explained naturally, they believe it's ALL true. They believe aliens exist, even without evidence and nobody can talk them out of it even with strong evidence. All they care about is perpetuating the alien conspiracy, not finding the actual TRUTH.
Do you see the problem now?
and for the record I believe UFOs exist. I've seen one. As to what they are and where they come from? I have no idea. Aliens? probably unlikely, but possible. Even though I believe they exist... 98% of UFO sightings are complete bullshit. But that 2% is very very interesting...
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dalpat077
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Hay!
I was only gone for two hours. And I come back and there's a whole new thread and the other one is closed. Pretty sure there's one or two that were getting ready to rip me a new one but now are not able to on that thread. AND I'm busy with a real time experiment and proof of concept. Suppose I can just continue here with what plays out here i.e. now that cases are skyrocketing there's mention of lock down levels being adjusted (and usually where there's smoke there's fire here i.e. once the saber rattling starts it's only a matter of time). Probably a week tops I reckon. Which is fine i.e. in order to prove a point I need for the data to come in and make it out there.
I was only gone for two hours. And I come back and there's a whole new thread and the other one is closed. Pretty sure there's one or two that were getting ready to rip me a new one but now are not able to on that thread. AND I'm busy with a real time experiment and proof of concept. Suppose I can just continue here with what plays out here i.e. now that cases are skyrocketing there's mention of lock down levels being adjusted (and usually where there's smoke there's fire here i.e. once the saber rattling starts it's only a matter of time). Probably a week tops I reckon. Which is fine i.e. in order to prove a point I need for the data to come in and make it out there.
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Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
I wonder where we would be if they never rolled out the vax…cases would be at all time lows by now right ? So if the vax extends the duration but lowers monthly deaths how will we know if in the long run the vax is actually killing more people…one of those things that really makes you think , if your capable of thinking that it
jpgrdnr
Bluelighter
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
No, the opposite.
We would have even more variants if there was no vaccine.
it doesn't.... people refusing to be vaccinated extends the duration of the pandemic by letting the virus mutate in more hosts
It's pointless thinking about possibilities that are based off the exact opposite of the truth. Waste of time, really.
also, "The ability to think does not make you intelligent."
I understand your position, but I don't see the problem with it. I'm not interested in being right or wrong, because this isn't an abstract intellectual debate we can just walk away from. Like the parallel Nazi Germany example, we are potentially living through a conspiracy to subjugate the population. What should concern you, as it does me, is our direction of travel. It is clear to me we are being driven towards a particular objective/s. Again, I don't know all the finer details, but it really doesn't matter because the objective is not going to be in our best interest - if it were there wouldn't be need of a conspiracy because people will accept a positive objective/s e.g. no more skimming and hiding of wealth/productivity in offshore tax havens.
You can't prove there isn't a conspiracy to subjugate the population, going on right now. All the indications are there for the opposite to be true, that there is something sinister going on. Again the example of vaccine passports, which is not justified using the scientific evidence actually available (vax'd can still transmit the virus).. given they have no impact, and we have real world data to prove that (England vs Wales/Scotland), then why are they being rolled out and being advertised as a solution? If there is no justification for them, then logically it follows there has to be another reason why all nations are so desperate to roll it out.
You've just used an example which actually proves my position though. You admit those 2% are real and indicative that there is something else going on, and I would agree with that by the way as I too have seen (twice) balls of light in the sky that were clearly something not of this world (the only natural explanation is ball lightning, but in both instances there was no storm and they behaved too erratically to be ball lightning).
The point is 'where there's smoke, there's fire'. It holds true for both the UFO example and the covid conspiracy example. Do you see the problem now arguing that there is no fire? There is absolutely no point in debating the intricacies and physics of the smoke, it is utterly irrelevant to the fact there is indeed a fire somewhere.
Electrum1
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The newer variants are all vaccine resistant. How would a virus mutate in unvaccinated people to become vaccine resistant? Seems extremely likely that viruses become vaccine resistant by mutating in vaccinated people, where else would they learn to evolve against vaccines?
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
Right, I’m wondering if he’s still in psychosis
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
You are making uneducated speculations. If you actually read a book the science of vaccines and mutations is very well established.
any mutation can turn out to make a vaccine less effective, regardless of what caused the mutation
at least come up with an insult that is actually clever?
if you can :/
the funny part here is I am still schizophrenic, yes, and yet still absolutely obliterate you in debates
what does that say about you?
Electrum1
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Due to mods shutting down seperate threads, one about Covid and one about Vaccines, oppressing it all into a single thread, we will be hosting an "Unconscious Bias" seminar.
The "virtual discussion" will focus on "the impact of stereotypes and unconscious biases in the Bluelight workplace against Covid/Vaccine intellectuals."
The "virtual discussion" will focus on "the impact of stereotypes and unconscious biases in the Bluelight workplace against Covid/Vaccine intellectuals."
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
You really think you win ? Yep, my suspicions confirmedYou are making uneducated speculations. If you actually read a book the science of vaccines and mutations is very well established.
any mutation can turn out to make a vaccine less effective, regardless of what caused the mutation
at least come up with an insult that is actually clever?
if you can :/
the funny part here is I am still schizophrenic, yes, and yet still absolutely obliterate you in debates
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
I know it. Even though I don't know how, I can't explain why, but I KNOW that I win.
It's a conspiracy to make me lose, thus, I win.
see wat I did thur?
#anti-vaxxlogic
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
...and you cannot prove there IS one... so what makes your opinion more valid than mine?
Logik
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
I think you cling to official narrratives cause it’s safe
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE NARRATIVE?!?!
WHAT IS THE COVID NARRATIVE?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
TELL ME WHAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Electrum1
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What book do you suggest I read?
The same media telling us unvaccinated people are causing vaccine resistant variants, also tell us that Biden shutting down a domestic pipeline didn't make oil/gas prices rise, and ~100M people just eat it up like it's gospal.
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
Its comfortable knowing big brother got your back, I get it…yet he acknowledges the injustices the commit in the war on drugs ;/
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
I think I’m cracking him, hahs
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
any of them
So if you distrust everything the media produces... where do you get your information? Youtube videos? Facebook?
because you already admitted you don't read books or scientific publications