Mr. Krinkle
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he kinda reminds me of that snafu character
Covid-19 The New Covid Megathread v.Oh-my-cron!
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
Again, refer to my post about how the anti-vaxxer argues..
Dismiss, insult, claim they can't understand your argument
It's actually fairly comical at this point. I have asked you to explain 10x now, and all you can do is insult and claim I don't understand you...
lol
I swear you people argue like one of my ex-girlfriends...
Either you completely ignore what I've said or you just have nothing else to say other than insults. Pathetic.
You have not provided ONE piece of a debate or any evidence at all. Nothing. Zip. Nada. A conspiracy theory needs real evidence not facebook group posts and NOT a randomy druggy's theory about how Bill gates wants to inject conspiracy shit into humans. Fuck...
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Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
oh because all your posts about how you literally give zero shits about people dying as a result of your refusal to do some basic safety measures weren't deliberately provocative?
i will go back and quote that if you want to try to claim innocence. i don't think it was alasdair, negentropic, or most people in this thread that were provocative, none of us were saying we didn't care if we killed granny. none of us were denying the literal existence of viruses, or of the pandemic. you have no legs to stand on if you're upset about others being provocative.
of course i picked that exaggerated example to more forcefully make my point. sorry if i touched a nerve.
to the specific discussion point, these statements are schematically and logically identical:
- you can't prove there's not X. we'll just assume there is X
- you can't prove there's not a conspiracy. we'll just assume there is a conspiracy
- you can't prove you're not a pedophile. we'll just assume you are a pedophile
you can't disprove the non-existence of something and that's exactly what you're inviting people to do. when they can't you claim victory. it's logically fallacious.
alasdair
Yeah, because there is zero proof those 'basic safety measures' actually do anything what so ever. It's provocative to you because you believe fervently that they do work, and therefore you think I'm somehow malicious or actively trying to kill people, which I am not. I give zero shits because I know it's a fucking charade built on nothing and there's nothing I do that has any impact on the health of other people what so ever.
You're entitled to tie yourself up in knots about it, it's your choice to believe what you want. Personally I think you and the masses have worked yourselves up into a hysteria based on something you can't actually prove, and you've been guided into it by some evil bastards who know exactly how to tweak the psychology of the masses. For the record, they have tried this several times over the past two decades using the exact same formula but no one seems to remember or notice: shambolic 'proof' of a new novel pathogen whilst simultaneously ignoring other environmental factors, spread fear and hysteria using the WHO and media, then sell their shitty pharmaceutical products at extortionate prices.
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but you give zero shits about people dying from the vax lol.
You're not sorry. You know you have nothing to actually offer on the actual topic of discussion, and now you want to try playing silly logic games too which I will not indulge. Take on the actual point of discussion instead of playing spurious games.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
stop dodging the issue. you literally said you don't care about other people, and take no responsibility for their health.
we believe they will work because we have assessed the evidence and found as such.
myself and others have expressed deep regret at people dying from vaccine related issues but also deep thanks that those issues are orders of magnitude less problematic than covid itself. if you care about people dying, you support the vaccine campaigns.
Deleted member 521610
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I care about a proper vaccine that acutally fucking works and is acutally fucking safe not the bullshit they are giving us. No vaccine should have active spike protein why the fuck are we not using inactivated virus forms like other vaccines. Its a fucking crime agaisnt humanity that would make hitler blush. I hope the numberg trials 2.0 exucutes everybody involved in the covid plot
Electrum1
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Novavax has a protein based more traditional inactive vaccine, but at this rate it may never make it to market, at least in the U.S. Would much rather see vax-maxxers take those shots compared to tons of mRNA shots.
Jabberwocky
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someone has never heard of full virus vaccines. of which there is one for covid and i'd way prefer it to what we have. the mRNA vaccines are inactivated. there is no such thing as an 'active' spike protein. there is a spike protein or not
please stop with the hitler comparisons. you already showed yourself to be ignorant regarding the soviets, i don't expect this to be any different.
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
@Electrum1 its not letting me quote you for some reason (i'm drunk so i may just be failing) but i have seen tentative positive noises about omicron. i.e. what you said, its more transmissible but less virulent. we are waiting for clinical data, but i'm really hoping that we may be nearing the end, or at least things getting less shit.
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the plandemic has killed over 5 million people so far thats bordering on a holocaust level of murder
Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
except it doesn't pick and choose.
please, a) its not and b) even if it were its not a comparable situation and i'd politely request you educate yourself properly before drawing such a comparison.
Electrum1
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Right, seems like a great scenario if/when it becomes the dominant variant. Now don't go drinking too much, and DON'T take a benzo this time!!!
birdup
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So 5 million people have died. A week or two ago you said it was 500k max.
What changed your mind?
So 5 million people have died. A week or two ago you said it was 500k max.
What changed your mind?
early on i was told this whole thing was a hoax and the virus didn't even exist. make your mind up people!
alasdair
alasdair
Jabberwocky
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i have run out. you are all safe from the incoherent ramblings of one ms chin somethingposh up somethingveryfancysoundingbutalsovaguelynorthernRight, seems like a great scenario if/when it becomes the dominant variant. Now don't go drinking too much, and DON'T take a benzo this time!!!
am going to bed right now. i think. i'm brushing my teeth. hopefuly i don't come to my computer and find a rogue xanax between now and when i actually go to bed and if i do then i assure you all that the punishment is in my shame and not in my getting demoted/banned so please don't do that thank you.
people like me are exactly why you guys don't get 3 covid threads so i hope you all are thinking long and hard about being less like me and more betterer.
Will you fucking stop misrepresenting what I have actually said. I did NOT say I don't care about other people. Learn to fucking write properly and think before hitting that submit button. And no, I have ZERO responsibility for the health of other people. Call me what you want, I really do not give a shit. There is absolutely nothing you or anyone else can say to convince me otherwise.
There you go. You believe. You don't know, and you don't know because it's not actually proven. And not only is it not proven in the case of masks, the opposite is true.. hence why even the WHO said up until June 20' in their own documentation that healthy people should not wear masks. Chris Whitty, UK chief epidemiologist, said the same thing. Numerous others did too. The science was clear before the pandemic even started. It's pure politics, not science, that has reversed that.
birdup
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PPE clearly works when used properly otherwise people who work at testing sites would constantly be getting sick.