AbbeyLee
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You deleted them yourself at 3:08 and 3:09 AM
I know.. It was sarcasm.
You deleted them yourself at 3:08 and 3:09 AM
Before you get modded again…you are expressing something that potentially stereotypes sex workers as a hard fact for which you have no evidence.Deleted
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Before you get modded again…you are expressing something that potentially stereotypes sex workers as a hard fact for which you have no evidence.
If you expressed the same thing as an hypothesis it would jar less with people.
And speakng of evidence … there are several former sex workers who have commented in this thread with information that both potentially disproves and proves your hypothesis.
No problem.Yeah actually, maybe erase that quote box?
Go back and read posts by @Kellsee @chinup and @SoCalShordie and @Eligiu (though he is a man)What were the proofs/disproofs?
Totally understand, My brain lives in a soup of methamphetamine with sprinkles of LSD.Amphetamine -> I've processed a vast quantity of backlogged information in a relatively compact timeframe.
okay cool. I thought you were thinking someone else had.I know.. It was sarcasm.
About to go walk the dog, but I will quickly provide a very simplified version of the current scientific knowledge (Which is admittedly rather primitive, as we don't understand nearly as much as we could) on how LSD works on the brain.
Through 5HT2A agonism, LSD and other psychedelics desynchronize the default mode network which is generally active when people are daydreaming/lost in thought. For people with disorders such as Alzheimer's, Autism Spectrum Disorder, ADHD, depression/bipolar, anxiety, Borderline Personality Disorder, dissociative disorders, etc. the DMN is often overactive and extremely dysfunctional. Deactivation of the DNM takes people out of this default state of being where they are excessively self-focused and lost in thought and puts them more in touch with the world around them, their bodies, and their emotions. This could be the mechanism responsible for ego dissolution.
Another mechanism for the neurological changes of psychedelics are the increased connections between many different parts of the brain that are not traditionally communicating with each other (in addition to doing the exact opposite to the default mode network as we just talked about.) This is likely responsible for the hyperemotionality and increased imagination that LSD seems to cause in most people. @Skorpio tends to know more about this stuff than I do, so he can correct me if I've made any missteps here.
While psychedelics CAN cause both muscle tightness/contractions and hypersexuality, I would guess that the effects @Atomic_Decay observed (or at least the intensity of said effects) were most likely due to the combination of LSD with methamphetamine.
Understandable. I believe I edited out the parts from your past few posts that I found to be violations of the rules. Just try to refrain from generalizations (particularly negative ones) about different groups from now on (e.g. 'Most women' or 'Women' or 'All women'). You should also present your ideas as your subjective opinions rather than objective fact. So 'I notice that some women may have a tendency to do _' instead of 'Women do _'. These discussions are very interesting to have, but it is important to make sure that we aren't prejudicing certain groups in the process.
I have not read it, but might now - thanks for the reference. I think the only book-length first-person account of being a sex worker was Christiane F. I read that at 14 years old which might have been a bit young.I don't have any experience on either side of the trade but I did read King Kong Theory and found it to be a fascinating insight into the mind of a sex worker (in the 90s, mind you) with some excellent broader points about the capitalist world at large and its myriad oppressions. Wondering if anyone else is familiar with the text.
I have not read it, but might now - thanks for the reference. I think the only book-length first-person account of being a sex worker was Christiane F. I read that at 14 years old which might have been a bit young.
I have a few times thought about doing my post-doctorql project on Asian meth-using sex workers in Australia: theoretically and historically anthropology deals with the social and cultural ‘other’ so it should not matter that I am a 50+ year old white man - but in the present academic climate I don’t think it would ever be approved on ideological grounds let alone ethical grounds - particularly if I proposed to do it with my friends as the subjects. Men are now actively discouraged from researching women here.
One thing I am really interested in doing is researching the differences between heroin-addicted sex workers (most often white historicaly here) funding their addiction and meth-using sex workers (now most commonly Asian) selling to and using meth with clients for different reasons but generaly focussed on amassing as much financial security as they in as short an amount of time as possible.
I don't think that this is necessarily incorrect but I think that it is missing something. Remind me to explain in a day or two when I'll have the time.I'll round out my contribution to this discussion with my conclusion that:
Probably the foremost consideration in becoming a sex worker is that, a girl has enough "know how" and "x-factor" as it were, where she feels she can reliably turn on clients.
i.e. she feels she good enough at sex, where she can use it to make a living.
If she's good at it = probably going to enjoy it, which makes making a living off it, probably enjoyable as well in its own right.
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And the fact that someone can do something they feel they're good at, and enjoy, through which they can attain financial security and have a good quality of life - I'd imagine it feels empowering.
So for some, being a sex-worker probably feels like the obvious choice.
I don't think that this is necessarily incorrect but I think that it is missing something. Remind me to explain in a day or two when I'll have the time.
They also need to feel that sex work is the field that gives them the best balance of skill, ease, and income feasibility. In many cases, almost like they feel that their worth is greatest as a sexual object.I agree, there is something missing
- She enjoys sex, she’s good at = can use it to make a living = feels empowering.
Revised edition.
Im trying to understand so I can contribute to what you are pursuing with this thread but I am just so confused about your intentions with this topic.
Why do you care about the mentality of sex workers? You want to know why they do what they do?? Why??
You are wanting to exchange rhetoric on the philosophical nature of prostitutes?
It's the other words you also use.....they throw red flags for me. Tbh I don't like discussing topics of this nature with someone using words like exploiting...villianize....derogatory...empowering, etc.
Especially including trauma
Plus you are formatting it all like a pub med cheatsheet...like you are validating your own assumptions with scientific citations lol. Idk. Maybe I am just mentally retarded.
And not everything is about derived power
This left a bad taste in my mouth