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The MDMA experience feeling 'fake'

The experience is fake... it's a drug.

EDIT: Upon further thought, I'm not sure what about an experience would constitute it as being "fake". What is perceptually "fake" in terms of something you experience? I suppose if you experienced it, then it was real, right? The mind is obviously very powerful, whatever drug induced reality your brain conjured, your conscious self lived through. I guess it is impossible to say without knowing the exact parameters of the term "fake", which could be set by anyone with an opinion on what they perceive it to be. As a result of such, I guess "fake" is a label too subjective for the MDMA experience.

Then again there would be no denying that the MDMA experience is very directed and every user is subject to similar thoughts (which makes it seem a little fake), nothing like the wild-card that is LSD or even mushrooms. I can't decide on this one.
 
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it can be as real as you want it to be
personal i think were more honest about things under the influence of MDMA
it destroys the negative emotional barriers most of us put up in life
shulgin used to call it window because it shows you the way life can really be if you pull love into your heart
 
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To avoid this problem with mdma i only take it with close friends, yea i go to raves, but i stay with my group and we try to avoid 98% of the event because they are usally younger and i dont trust anyone. Especially with all the stuff i seen go on at them.
I just dont feel the need to be empathetic to tons of strangers, that i know i wouldnt like sober, thats fake. Running around getting rushes from trading kandi, and doing stupid hand hearts, asking if everyone i meet is "rolling" (at a rave...def rolling...) giving rave names to strangers, to me thats the activities that felt fake. I got my group of friends, we'll trade kandi, lightshows, empathetic feelings, massages, and wen its over, its all real, because the people i experienced it with are still there after the drugs.
 
socalthizzn said:
To avoid this problem with mdma i only take it with close friends, yea i go to raves, but i stay with my group and we try to avoid 98% of the event because they are usally younger and i dont trust anyone. Especially with all the stuff i seen go on at them.
I just dont feel the need to be empathetic to tons of strangers, that i know i wouldnt like sober, thats fake. Running around getting rushes from trading kandi, and doing stupid hand hearts, asking if everyone i meet is "rolling" (at a rave...def rolling...) giving rave names to strangers, to me thats the activities that felt fake. I got my group of friends, we'll trade kandi, lightshows, empathetic feelings, massages, and wen its over, its all real, because the people i experienced it with are still there after the drugs.
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Hahahaha.... man if we knew each other, I think we'd be good friends. I hate that shit.
 
It is fake. Its a chemical forcing you to feel extremely happy when you don't. That's why I don't use ecstasy anymore. I went through 8 different groups of people in less than a year who claimed to be my best friends. but they were really only where the party was at.
Its fake because its a drug forcing you to be overwhelmingly happy. You like everyone and everything. Real people aren't like that. I'm extremely shy, only talked to about 5 people in high school, when I used X I talked to everyone. And that wasn't me at all.
I believe that people should be able to feel amazing and be have the happiest days of their lifes without using drugs. I actually hate MDMA or any drug like it now, its a waste of time and money. I realized that I naturally happier and had a better life before I started using it. That part of my life actually feels like a dream. I wish it had been.
Anyways, I'm really glad to find that I'm not the only person who thinks ecstasy is fake. :)
 
I'm with socal on this.

I've never gone to a rave. I roll with a close group of friends(who were my good friends long before any of us tried ecstasy), at someones house with some good music and light shows, massages, etc. It's one of the most rewarding experiences I can imagine. The bonds with them are very real to begin with, and rolling has only strengthened that bond.
 
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I think "synthetic" feelings can be just as authentic as real feelings. Just because it isn't "natural" or whatever doesn't mean that it's "fake".
 
It's as fake as you want it to be - basically perception is everything. If you think that the feelings you are getting are fake then it will be. Your imagination is powerful, don't forget that.

Basically it sounds like the intention behind your roll isn't there - maybe you need to sort of ask yourself what you want to get out of these experiences and perhaps next time use it that way? That would definitely be more practical and have more of a real impact I'm sure. Whenever I roll I always make it a point to doing certain things, because of the therapeutic value the drug has as well as other qualities.

Regardless though like I say it's all perception. What MDMA affects is already there, it's simply exaggerated a great deal due to the way it works in your brain.
 
This interests me.

I am extremely close to a guy on a level I can't even explain. I feel like we understand each other. Before MDMA we were nowhere near this level..perhaps acquaintances. Even after the mdma, while we are together sober, our relationship is still inexplicably amazing. I really don't feel that without mdma we would be on this level, but at the same time after the mdma which made us so close, our relationship still remains close. He calls me his exista-buddy lol cheesy. Anyways what we shared on our mdma trips was obviously not fake and went beyond the drug.

I have close relationships with each friend with whom I have decided to roll. I have never been to a rave. I feel that what I share with people on mdma is real, the connections and the feelings. It allows my shy self to open up to people and show them who i am and how I really feel about them without inhibitions. Some aspects feel fake but each time I feel I take something away from the trip.
 
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This interests me.

I am extremely close to a guy on a level I can't even explain. I feel like we understand each other. Before MDMA we were nowhere near this level..perhaps acquaintances. Even after the mdma, while we are together sober, our relationship is still inexplicably amazing. I really don't feel that without mdma we would be on this level, but at the same time after the mdma which made us so close, our relationship still remains close. He calls me his exista-buddy lol cheesy. Anyways what we shared on our mdma trips was obviously not fake and went beyond the drug.

I have close relationships with each friend with whom I have decided to roll. I have never been to a rave. I feel that what I share with people on mdma is real, the connections and the feelings. It allows my shy self to open up to people and show them who i am and how I really feel about them without inhibitions. Some aspects feel fake but each time I feel I take something away from the trip.
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MDMA is a beautiful substance, my friend. It has been getting a bad rap for many years but only recently are we starting to rediscover it's true potential. For me, when I think about using MDMA at a club I feel like I'm only using a tiny portion of what this substance is capable of doing. Thus, I use it at home with the wife or friends more often then taking it to have a good time. Every experience I have with this drug when I do it with just some friends seems to be more rewarding than almost any other experience I've had (even with psychedelics!).

So what I want to say to you is that you definitely took the drug beyond just it being a drug - which I think is really the true beauty of MDMA. It has the potential to reach further than the serotonin synapses in your mind and actually connect with others as well as yourself. I think this is the best use of MDMA :) There is truly no other way to improve your standard of living as consistently as MDMA can, depending on how you use it of course.
 
Fake? I think most sober people are fake due to always wearing masks and lying. making personas up.

Your true inner-self comes out of it's shell when on MDMA, I guess i'm just an honest person then whom does make his promises come true (no matter what kind of intoxication)

Other then that; there are other uses for chemicals then to just party on fast-paced music (which isn't all that bad either ; ) !
 
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Fake? I think most sober people are fake due to always wearing masks and lying. making personas up.

Your true inner-self comes out of it's shell when on MDMA, I guess i'm just an honest person then whom does make his promises come true (no matter what kind of intoxication)

Other then that; there are other uses for chemicals then to just party on fast-paced music (which isn't all that bad either ; ) !
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That's an interesting consideration, because people in general tend to be fake. Maybe a person on MDMA is only as fake as they behave in IRL.

Yeah, I don't really dig the socal obsession with rave names and all that other crap. I mean, it's fun - but I think people push it a little too much. You can enjoy MDMA use around strangers without focusing on Kandi and rave names and such...
 
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I think that mdma is an amazing experience and everyone who is mentally stable should at least try it once! For me it isn't fake at all cuz I only do it with a group of close friends and the gfriend of course now and I feel it brings us closer.I have used it on and off for over ten years now, damn how time flys, and can say that the experience is always real and leaves me closer to friends cuz we are all on the same page! Now u start doing it at raves and around strangers then when it wears off I can see how it might feel fake. I just wish beans around here weren't junk now! I only eat crystal molly now when its around! Bring back the oldschool beans of 2000 to beantown I mean shit its called BEANTOWN! How about some leons, snowball,covers, or mitsu turbos. Anyways stay safe and take it for what it is a damn good time!
 
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