Hi skodeo,
Sorry to hijack your thread, but reading about your use of tianeptine has piqued my interest. A couple of quick questions if I may; are you using the sodium or sulfate version? Also, what doses are we talking about with regards to mitigating withdrawals/producing 'opioid-esque' effects? I understand tolerance builds quickly etc. but I just wanted to gauge a rough idea.
Thanks in advance

All the very best with your taper & here's hoping you knock this thing on the head.
Hey there Rayve,
I am taking the sodium. Still have yet to try the sulfate, though I'm thinking I'll invest in it for my next shipment if the sleep disturbances continue.
In regards to your second question...everyone is different and I have no idea what your sensitivity to tia may be, where your tolerance is at, or what you intend to be coming off of if you were to invest in tianeptine.
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Roughly I can say a good starting dose would be 30-50mg at a time to initially experiment (Stablon pills scripted overseas are 12.5 mg 3x a day...you probably know that). That's an amount up to 4 times more than what is normally prescribed. You can always work your way up by gauging how you feel.
My first time was approximately 150mg+. I just now invested in a milligram scale, so I couldn't even say what dosages I have been taking for certain. I have been using a little scooper that instructed me that one flat scoop was equal to 50-70 mgs + or -. My primary 150mg experience was less than optimal. I thought,
"Oh, shit. This stuff makes me feel really strange...it isn't going to cut it."
In fact, I disliked what I was feeling so much that I attempted to force myself to nap it off...the whole while crazy thoughts flowing through my brain causing an anxious eery sensation. I felt an opiate glow, but the rest seemed quite foreign and unacceptable. The next couple days I proceeded with a lower amount at 100mg or less about 4 times a day since my first go wasn't what I expected. It didn't seem to help, but I was on an array of incorrect comfort meds and fresh off lope for my first time in ages. The 3rd day I found my nitch in dosing for nearly 100% comfortability and relief....oddly enough by exceeding the 150mg mark that I first dreaded.
Tianeptine, you'll find, has a relatively short half life coupled with its tolerance building...more and more sooner and sooner. I try to spread my doses out as long as I can, waiting a MINIMUM of 4-5 hrs, but usually more around 8-10 hrs depending. Some nights I have been able to sleep straight through without dosing for 8-14 hours. Some nights I sleep for 2.5-5 hrs and wake up requiring a wee sample to allow sleep's sweet embrace to engulf me. Hence my desire to try the sulfate.
Any other questions you have for me?
Reply to my initial questions if you so please.
Ta ta, you.