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The law of attraction and being positive....really?

HeatherWesling

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I had a very VERY bad week this week and got a message from someone I haven't heard from since I was in junior high. I told him about my horrible week and after I got done ranting he deciding to tell me about what he described as "the secret:the law of attraction" and that I needed to just believe in things and they will happen or appear I guess. I am really not trying to sound like an ass but seriously? Can someone explain to me, in laymen terms, what the secret:the law of attraction is because it sounds kind of crazy to me. Thank you to all!! :)
 
He said it like if I got a bill and believed their was a check inside and then opened it then there would be a check inside...it just confused me I respect all beliefs but it sounded kind of silly :-?
 
This is the common theme in "self-help" culture. "Just think positive and everything will be good." It's more like you have to think realistically and act accordingly. Trying to force yourself to be positive all the time will make you fake and dissapointed often. Nobody has complete control over the world, so blaming your attitude may or may not be the correct assumption. '

Just avoid being negative all the time too. Just aim for a healthy balance.
 
Yes think about what you want often enough and it will come to you, nevermind that starving people in 3rd world countries think about food all the fucking time non stop (yes starvation makes one obsessed with food) and are still fucking dying. *rolls eyes* Fucking people like Oprah (bless, actually love her) probably don't really get this. Privilaged psudo-hippies, YOU can have whatever you want anyhow! duh.
 
Yes think about what you want often enough and it will come to you, nevermind that starving people in 3rd world countries think about food all the fucking time non stop (yes starvation makes one obsessed with food) and are still fucking dying. *rolls eyes* Fucking people like Oprah (bless, actually love her) probably don't really get this. Privilaged psudo-hippies, YOU can have whatever you want anyhow! duh.
it's very easy to read into these things literally and trash them for a quick laugh. maybe you don't really get it? maybe getting it means something different from person to person?

i find, very often, these things have more than one layer of meaning or they're intended to invite us to consider the problem or the challenge from a different perspective.

to the op:
goethe said:
Until one is committed there is hesitancy, a chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness.

Concerning all acts of initiative and creation, there is one elementary truth, the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans; that the moment that one definitely commit oneself, then providence moves, too. All sorts of things occur to help one that would never otherwise have occurred.

A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favour all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamed would come his way.

Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it!

Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now!

alasdair
 
Spose I was being judgemental. Maybe you're right, maybe *I* don't get it. I don't believe in magic. Positive thinking only helps to the extent that if you believe something possible you're more likely to try and therefore have higher probability of success than someone who doesn't expect success therefore doesn't try. I think the whole "law of attraction" thing is a complete misunderstanding of this concept, extrapolating it far beyond itself. But yeah that's just my opinion and I should be more careful not to let arrogance get in the way of understanding. It's not on purpose, I seem to do it automatically sometimes, and without even realising, it's bizarre.

Edit: Oh apparently it isn't bizarre, it is intuition! Or rather my secondary function of extraverted intuition as an INTP (according to MBTI), just needs tact maybe. Not that this is important to the discussion I just had to correct it because it was wrong.

Anywho back on topic (sort of), about this "law of attraction" And I'm going to try not to come off like a judgemental prick...
What is it exactly that trying to attract? I mean is it supposed to be some sort of cosmic ATM machine?
The Proletariat comforting themselves with their fantasies of wealth and power? Who dreamt this up?
Intention to keep the people occupied in stagnation instead of coming together and working toward something more meaningful than capitalist greed? Just doesn't seem to make sense to me, I have spend most my time pondering, fantasizing, dreaming if you will and I have no revolution, because it takes compassionate action, not dreams.
 
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The secret really got a lot of it wrong, they missed out the whole part of acting on your visualisation in order to manifest what you intended to attract. There are a few other self help gurus that spin the same story in different ways. One of my favourite is Steve Pavlina's way of saying it as Intention - Manifestation

It's all basically cause and effect explained in another way, heres a quote from Steve Pavlina's blog about Intention - Manifestation which is basically what the Law of Attraction is.

Say to the universe, “Here is the goal. Make it so.”

Do not ask the universe for what you want. Declare it. Don’t ask. This is very similar to prayer, but you are not praying FOR what you want. You are praying WHAT you want. You are simply saying, “Here it is. Make it so.” It is like planting a seed in the ground. You do not say to the ground, “Here is the seed. Please, can you make it grow?” You simply plant the seed, and it will grow as a natural consequence of your planting and tending to it. It is the same with your intentions. Simply plant them. There’s no need to beg.

Intend that your goal manifest in such a manner that is for the greatest good of all. This is very important, as intentions that are created out of fear or a sense of lack will backfire. You may get what you want, but it will yield a bitter aftertaste. Or you may get the exact opposite of what you want. But intentions that are genuinely made for your own good and the greatest good of all will tend to manifest in a positive way.

After I declare my intention, I wait for the resources and synchronicities to arrive. Usually they begin to manifest in 24-48 hours, sometimes sooner. Sometimes these synchronicities appear to be the result of subconscious action. I just happen to notice things that may have been there all along, but now I see them in a new light, and they become resources for me that I never noticed until after I declared my intention. But many times it’s nearly impossible to explain such synchronicities as the result of my own subconscious action, even if I step back and try to look at them purely objectively. Sometimes they come in such unusual avalanches that I can only explain them as the result of superconscious action. On some level the universe itself is aware of my intention and is doing its part to help manifest it. I also find that the more inviting I am of these synchronicities, the more easily they flow. Right now I typically experience about 10 per week on average, and I think that’s because I have many different intentions in the process of manifesting, so there’s a constant flow of resources coming to me.

The mental and physical planning and action steps come later. That’s how I organize the resources that have arrived. Once enough resources have come to me, I can begin to see how they all fit together to achieve the goal. But if the path seems too complicated or difficult and I don’t like what I see, I put out some new intentions to make it the way I want it to be. I declare, “Let it be simpler.” I again wait for the synchronicities to arrive, and a simpler approach becomes clear. Usually for an approach to be simpler, it means I have to get past some personal block within me. I have to grow on some level in order to be able to take advantage of a simpler solution. Or perhaps I have to learn a new skill first. So while it might be simpler, it might also be harder on a personal level. For example, by putting out the intention to do more to help people, I had to develop my communication skills. That makes the goal easier to achieve, but it’s more work up front.

It took me a number of years to be able to trust this approach before I could begin to use it as my default manner of goal achievement. I have to be open to achieving goals in unusual ways sometimes. I get what I intend, but not always what I expect. So when the synchronicities begin dropping me clues, I do not always understand how they’ll be part of the path to the goal. But invariably there’s an intelligence at work, and if I trust it, it will work just fine. Usually it will bring me new information first, so I can raise my own awareness and knowledge to the level required to achieve the goal.

For example, if you declare your goal to become wealthier, within a few days you might see all sorts of synchronicities related to spirituality. They may seem to have nothing to do with wealth whatsoever. So you figure it’s just a coincidence, and the approach isn’t working. But the approach is sound, and it is working. Most likely it’s a signal that the path to wealth first requires you to improve your consciousness. This is especially true if your intention was for the highest good of all. If you become wealthy before your energy and consciousness have reached a certain level, then greater material wealth may only feed your problems — your goal cannot yet manifest for the greatest good of all. But if you first learn to use your energy and consciousness positively, then the greater resources that wealth provides you will be a positive manifestation instead of a negative one.

In truth this is a simple and direct process. But our minds are so cluttered with the flotsam and jetsam of social conditioning that we have a hard time thinking on this level. We get so attached to seeing our goals manifest a certain way because that’s how they manifest in TV shows or in movies. Or maybe that’s how our parents or friends did it. But this attachment to a particular “how” blocks us from allowing our goals to manifest far more easily. If we could loosen up a bit on the “how” and just learn to allow the manifestation to occur in its own perfect way, goal achievement would be far easier.

So often I see people sabotage their own goals because they do not understand the power of intention. Realize that EVERY thought is truly an intention. Every thought. So most people manifest a cluttered mish-mash of conflict in their lives because their thoughts are in conflict. They simultaneously set a goal and then unset it. “I want to start my own business.” “I wonder if it will work.” “I wonder if I’ll succeed.” “Maybe this won’t work.” “Maybe John is right, and this is a mistake.” “No, I’m pretty sure it will work just fine.”

If you are trying to achieve goals on the level of action-reaction, meaning that you’re purely focused on the action steps, while at the higher level of intention-manifestation, you’re putting out conflicting thoughts, then you’re sabotaging yourself. If you go on a diet and exercise like crazy, while all the while thinking, “I’m fat. This is hopeless. This is taking too long,” then your higher level intentions will override your actions, and negative or incongruent results will follow.

If you want to achieve a goal, you must clear out all the “hopefully” and “maybe” and “can’t” nonsense from your consciousness. You cannot allow yourself the luxury of a negative thought, and that is an intention to manifest what you don’t want. This takes practice of course, but it is the essential art of learning to use your consciousness to create what you want. When you are congruent in your thoughts, your goal will manifest with ease. But when you are incongruent in your thoughts, you will manifest conflict and obstacles. As within, so without.

Why is it you’re able to do this? Because you have that power. Not believing in yourself simply means you’re using your own power against yourself. You’re like a god saying, “Let me be powerless,” and you don’t even realize it. If you think/intend weakness, you manifest weakness. If you project your power outside yourself and onto the external world, you lose your power.

You don’t need anyone’s permission to do this. It is a natural human ability. But it takes practice to develop your consciousness to the level where you can apply it and especially to learn to trust it.

What happens if you decide to manifest a really, really big goal, one that seems physically impossible? The process will still work. It’s just that there will be a lot more steps, and you may be led through various synchronicities for years before you’ve reached the point where your ultimate goal can manifest. It might take longer than your human lifetime if the goal is so big. But you will certainly make progress if you use this approach.

So what is your goal? Say it out loud right now, and let it be for the greatest good of all. Then say to the universe, “Make it so.” Wait for the synchronicities and unusual coincidences to arrive. Follow them where they want to lead you, even if it seems strange at first. Allow your goal to manifest.
 
That's what Oprah always said. I'm trying to try it.

It's very hard when nothing is going right to believe anything makes a difference.
 
imo the secret is like the McDonalds of alchemy, you need to study the real texts like the Kybalion and secret of the golden flower, a positive thought can do nothing without positive actions
 
^You do, evidently...........lol.

.... :|

Anyways back to the topic;

has anyone tried doing this consistently over a long period of time ...? Its actually a lot hard to do then I realized; Who knows if one day we will discover the explanation or truth to this....

Why not just try anything and everything

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take....
 
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"What you think and believe about is the reality you become and live"


thoughts? opinions? experiences?

"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the
twenty-first floor.)" - Alan
Sokal
 
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the
twenty-first floor.)" - Alan Sokal
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics have universal and objective validity is invited to try transgressing all epistemological problems and provide a solid ground on which the house of all human knowledge can stand (I live in the transcendental basement of apriori knowledge.)" -- I.K.
 
Ok. My point stands regardless, because it addresses a tangible aspect of the world as it actually is.

That human understanding of these laws is not perfect does not detract from the fact that no matter if you believe in gravity or not, you will be empirically observed to fall to your messy death if you step out a window on a tower. You can wishfully think that you won't, but it will still happen.
 
From what I gather 'The Secret' is that in order to get what you want you have to visualize it. No shit. How the hell could you want something in the first place without imagining what that thing is? I had a look through my friend's roommate's copy of the book once. It had an anecdote about some kid who through using the power of 'The Secret' managed to get into Disney World while it was closed so he got to go on all the rides without having to queue. A first world solution to a first world problem.

If anyone sees a copy of The Secret to Teen Power (an official tie-in to the franchise) in a bookshop I highly recommend you open it to any page and read a few sentences - the tone of it is off-the-chart hilarious.
 
He said it like if I got a bill and believed their was a check inside and then opened it then there would be a check inside...it just confused me I respect all beliefs but it sounded kind of silly :-?

Maybe what we can take from it all is the value of confirmation bias. Expect positivity and notice/emphasize it (and fail to to do so for the negative).
 
Maybe what we can take from it all is the value of confirmation bias. Expect positivity and notice/emphasize it (and fail to to do so for the negative).

Are you advocating ignoring reality if you don't like it?

So like, ignore a design flaw in a passenger jet and the crashes resulting from it and only focus on the fact that the jet gets people to their vacation spot.(When it doesn't crash and burn that is.)
 
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