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The Last Covid-19 Megathread v. Hopefully...

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it's been how many years, and you still think wearing masks is only about protecting yourSELF?!?!

do you think dentists and surgeons are just completely stupid for wearing masks, imagining that they are trying to prevent themSELVES from catching something?

how do you STILL not understand that wearing a surgical mask is for reducing the amount of potentially contaminated respiratory droplets coming from the person WEARING the mask?!?!

i'm developing an ulcer from these fucking covid threads...

(also, as a glasses wearer, i sometimes leave my n95 on when making a short trip between stores, as it is a semi pain in the ass and a time waster.to remove it and put it back on... also, one time i got pulled over and the ass-hat copper didn't habe his mask on, breathing his cooties all up into my car... i left my mask on while i aired it out... i really don't give a fuck who thinks i'm stupid for doing so, but there are clearly reasons you may have never thought of for people doing the things they do)
 
(also, as a glasses wearer, i sometimes leave my n95 on when making a short trip between stores, as it is a semi pain in the ass and a time waster.to remove it and put it back on...
Yeah, I hate that. They get tangled in my glasses and I have to take both off and put my glasses back on. Annoying.
 
i'm developing an ulcer from these fucking covid threads...
You do seem to be super emotionally invested here, for whatever reasons. Maybe it's not worth spending time on if it stresses you out that much
i really don't give a fuck who thinks i'm stupid
I never called you stupid. A couple weeks ago you said tens of thousands of kids are dying, when the number is actually below 1,500 total for 0-18 year olds. 527 for 0-4 year olds. And those numbers aren't only "due to covid" and include deaths that simply tested positive at the hospital.

So my question is, now that you know that, do you still think infants should get vax shots that have no long term clinical safety data? I figure your opinion may have changed now that you know child deaths are much lower than tens of thousands
 
do you think dentists and surgeons are just completely stupid for wearing masks, imagining that they are trying to prevent themSELVES from catching something?

...i really don't give a fuck who thinks i'm stupid for doing so...
Dentists and surgeons don't wear masks to stop either themselves or patient from catching viruses. It's about stopping droplets/debry from either mouth or nose from potentially contaminating the patient. Surgical masks are not designed to stop particles the size of viral particles, which is why there are specialist masks that are rated for that specific task.

This is why prior to the hysteria of covid surgical masks were not used for attempting to stop viral transmission, and there was precisely zero evidence in favour of the opposite being true.

Sorry, but if you actually believe the myth about surgical masks being effective at this point then you are delusional. That's not an insult, that's just a fact. There is nothing to substantiate their use at all, and the brief interval during covid where it was believed they were useful was purely politically driven 'science' and mainstream media propaganda (on the behest of government).

Both Fauci and the Chris Whitty (UK) said masks were not recommended at the start even. They said that because they both understood what I've just said, that all the evidence showed they were not suited to the task of stopping viral transmission.
 
i have a personal interest in fighting against harmful misinfo and propaganda, and am also trying to keep up with the latest info. sometimes in threads like this, i learn new things. mostly i see the same regurgitated crapola.

So my question is, now that you know that, do you still think infants should get vax shots that have no long term clinical safety data? I figure your opinion may have changed now that you know child deaths are much lower than tens of thousands
even if it's as low as a few hundred in the u.s. (and i've seen good arguments that the covid death toll is actually higher than many of the estimates, i'll wait a couple years before coming to a solid conclusion), it's still a good idea. firstly, death is not the only bad thing; 2) the vaccines are WAYYYYY safer than the virus, and 3) we don't have very long term data on the virus (and i'm not sure what long term problems i'm supposed to assume are plausible with the vaccines?)

you're damn right i'm happy to give my kids the best protection available.

would you put your money on danny devito or the 1996 chicago bulls? betting on danny devito is how i view antivaxxers.
 
i have a personal interest in fighting against harmful misinfo and propaganda, and am also trying to keep up with the latest info. sometimes in threads like this, i learn new things. mostly i see the same regurgitated crapola.


even if it's as low as a few hundred in the u.s. (and i've seen good arguments that the covid death toll is actually higher than many of the estimates, i'll wait a couple years before coming to a solid conclusion), it's still a good idea. firstly, death is not the only bad thing; 2) the vaccines are WAYYYYY safer than the virus, and 3) we don't have very long term data on the virus (and i'm not sure what long term problems i'm supposed to assume are plausible with the vaccines?)

you're damn right i'm happy to give my kids the best protection available.

would you put your money on danny devito or the 1996 chicago bulls? betting on danny devito is how i view antivaxxers.
71% to 80% of 6-month to 17 year olds already have covid antibodies


Why should they take a vax that doesn't stop infection or transmission and is designed for an extinct variant?

They can't even take the new omicron shot unless they're up to date on the outdated vax shots. Why should they need to take the old ones to get the new one if it's about safety and isn't about drug companies making more money?
 
Dentists and surgeons don't wear masks to stop either themselves or patient from catching viruses. It's about stopping droplets/debry from either mouth or nose from potentially contaminating the patient. Surgical masks are not designed to stop particles the size of viral particles, which is why there are specialist masks that are rated for that specific task.



Both Fauci and the Chris Whitty (UK) said masks were not recommended at the start even. They said that because they both understood what I've just said, that all the evidence showed they were not suited to the task of stopping viral transmission.
what do you think the viruses hitch rides on? hint hint in bold above. our mouths aren't machine guns spewing barenaked individual virus particles.

fibbin' fauci later admitted that they were trying to get people to not buy up all the n95s, which (iirc) were in short supply in many places. he fucked up. and it wasn't the last time.

a cloth or surgical mask, well fitted and worn correctly (none of this dicknose hanging out bullcrap) do reduce the amount of viral particles by reducing the reapiratory droplets escaping from the wearer's face. this is VERY well established, and it seems you already knew that, judging by your second sentence above.
 
Why should they take a vax that doesn't stop infection or transmission and is designed for an extinct variant?
it's my understanding that the b cells and t cells are still able to fight off omicron fairly well, at least in terms of preventing serious covid reactions (like hospitalization, death), even if the antibodies are specific to older variants. anyone got the studies on that one?
 
it's my understanding that the b cells and t cells are still able to fight off omicron fairly well, at least in terms of preventing serious covid reactions (like hospitalization, death), even if the antibodies are specific to older variants. anyone got the studies on that one?
Yeah I remember reading that the T cell memory from natural infection can last over a decade. idk how they figured that since this covid hasn't been around that long, but I assume it's similar enough to SARS or whatever else that they can draw a conclusion
 
Will wait a few years before comming to a conclusion on the amount of COVID deaths, but jump into a vaccine that never went through full trials with 0 long term data….brilliant, absolutely brilliant , I mean the level of brilliance is just incomprehensible to the average man
 
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