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The Last Covid-19 Megathread v. Hopefully...

-=SS=- said:
it happens to integrate itself into the genetic code of specific organs say
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RNA won't integrate into your genetic code because the genome is made up of DNA not RNA. RNA is used by cells as short lived packages of information to synthesize proteins.

it goes the following: DNA gets transcribed to RNA, then the information in the RNA gets used to build proteins. there is no mechanism the other way round.

or is there? maybe you have it figured out...

yes there are viruses which store their genetic information as RNA, but ss doesn't believe in viruses anyway, so... ;) and mammals certainly don't.
 
Bagseed said:
RNA won't integrate into your genetic code because the genome is made up of DNA not RNA. RNA is used by cells as short lived packages of information to synthesize proteins.
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Well, this is what the 'fact checkers' liked to proclaim. Unfortunately our cells are more dynamic than what you read in high-school level textbooks.

Science.org Article on mRNA integration
Swedish Study on mRNA integration
"Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on
the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro.

We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6h upon BNT162b2 exposure."
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Plot twist, there are no viruses.. but ironically everyone who has just taken the mRNA shots have deliberately infected themselves with an artificial virus-like creation (mRNA travelling to target sites in the body, integrating into DNA, causing 'x' to happen there).

NBC News Article

Menstrual changes after Covid vaccines may be far more common than previously known​

A study found that 42% of people with regular menstrual cycles said they bled more heavily than usual after their Covid vaccination.
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It's pretty apparent that the mRNA has not stayed local to the injection site but has migrated to target organs in the body (heart, liver, reproductive). Women experiencing disruption is a clear indicator these 'shots' are fucked up. The falling birth rates, still births and miscarriages, all likewise indicate it. It remains to be seen what the affect has been on male sperm health if any.

Taking a pharmaceutical pill is one thing, but trusting their products that work on the genetic level with genetic machinery? Yeah. No thank you! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
-=SS=- said:
Well, this is what the 'fact checkers' liked to proclaim. Unfortunately our cells are more dynamic than what you read in high-school level textbooks.

Science.org Article on mRNA integration
Swedish Study on mRNA integration

Plot twist, there are no viruses.. but ironically everyone who has just taken the mRNA shots have deliberately infected themselves with an artificial virus-like creation (mRNA travelling to target sites in the body, integrating into DNA, causing 'x' to happen there).

NBC News Article


It's pretty apparent that the mRNA has not stayed local to the injection site but has migrated to target organs in the body (heart, liver, reproductive). Women experiencing disruption is a clear indicator these 'shots' are fucked up. The falling birth rates, still births and miscarriages, all likewise indicate it. It remains to be seen what the affect has been on male sperm health if any.

Taking a pharmaceutical pill is one thing, but trusting their products that work on the genetic level with genetic machinery? Yeah. No thank you! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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thanks I'll read those articles, just brushed over them.

still, "mRNA travelling to target sites in the body, integrating into DNA, causing 'x' to happen there)." is not at all how mRNA vaccines work.

and in the article one of the researchers themselves is quoted that their findings do not directly imply that this would be happening with the vaccine in vivo.
 
Bagseed said:
still, "mRNA travelling to target sites in the body, integrating into DNA, causing 'x' to happen there)." is not at all how mRNA vaccines work.

and in the article one of the researchers themselves is quoted that their findings do not directly imply that this would be happening with the vaccine in vivo.
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It's how the mRNA vaccines are claimed to work, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening. How many times have we gotten 'surprises' in science when we thought something was impossible or couldn't happen? Especially when it comes to molecular biology, it is a realm we absolutely have not fully comprehended. We are in the infancy stages of understanding. And again, there is clear indication that the mRNA is not staying local to the injection site regardless of what they're telling us.

The researchers are being openly cautious with their language. They're not going to come out and say it is happening for sure, not unless they had demonstrable proof. But that's not what they were testing for - it is insinuated that it is a possibility it could happen.
 

Kids’ Risk of Severe Reaction to Pfizer Shot 4 Times Greater Than Risk of Needing Oxygen Therapy, Singapore Data Show​


A New England Journal of Medicine study involving more than a quarter million children ages 5 to 11 raises serious questions about the risk-benefit analysis for vaccinating young children, according to John Campbell, Ph.D., who reviewed the study in a recent video.

The number of serious adverse reactions to the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was more than four times greater than the number of children needing oxygen therapy to recover from the virus, according to a study involving more than a quarter million children ages 5 to 11.

The data raise questions about the risk-benefit analysis for the vaccination against COVID-19 in children ages 5 to 11, according to John Campbell, Ph.D., a nurse teacher from the U.K. who reviewed the study in his latest video.

“Let’s hope the policymakers are completely up-to-date with this data,” said Campbell, who is described by German and British media as an expert on vaccine administration.

The study, based on data collected in Singapore from Jan. 21 through April 8, when the Omicron variant was spreading rapidly, included 22 cases of serious adverse reactions to the Pfizer vaccine in children ages 5 to 11 and only five cases of children needing oxygen therapy.

All but one of the children who required oxygen therapy were fully or partially vaccinated, suggesting the vaccine offers no protection against needing oxygen therapy, Campbell said.

“Among hospitalized children,” the study authors said, “only five received supplemental oxygen, four of whom were admitted to the intensive care unit. Of these five children, one was unvaccinated, two were partially vaccinated, and two were fully vaccinated.”

They added:

“No deaths attributable to COVID-19 (as determined by the cause of death reported to the Ministry of Health) were observed during the study period.”
 
i think you guys chased away that misinformation warrior who vaccinated his kids

hopefully he comes back :)
 
"In eight mice" lmao

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I'm not gonna sit here and deny that 8 mice does not equal a thorough medical trial. :\

Assuming that graphic isn't misleading (which is certainly possible), that is not an example of due diligence.
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm not gonna sit here and deny that 8 mice does not equal a thorough medical trial. :\
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Some of the trials and methodology, particularly the use of controls, they've used in the past for virology makes a mockery of science. For example I think it was the prion related studies where they injected solution straight into the brains of the test animals to 'prove' the prions caused deleterious brain damage; no control was used (e.g. saline), and that route of entry is miles away from the supposed actual route of ingesting material.
 
As an Englishman, whenever I see or hear anyone use the expression "y'all" I just want to slap some fucking grammar back into them. But using that abomination as an opener in emails with government officials. Holy fuck.
 
It's just a contraction for "you all", based on colloquial pronunciation. Ain't is worse, IMO. Y'all is exactly analogous to "innit" that the Brits love to say.
 
But 99.9% of Brit's never use the term :ROFLMAO: 'innit' is limited to the sub-human group known as 'chavs', an increasingly rare breed of feral losers in our society.

"Y'all" seems way more prevalent. For shame.
 
-=SS=- said:
As an Englishman, whenever I see or hear anyone use the expression "y'all" I just want to slap some fucking grammar back into them. But using that abomination as an opener in emails with government officials. Holy fuck.
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Rednecks

we don't say "y'all" where im from - you're getting called a redneck if you do say that :USA:
 
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