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The Last Covid-19 Megathread v. Hopefully...

Snafu in the Void said:
Yeah, I'd think anyone who wants more boosters is probably an anxious person or needs one for some medical reason, or older people.

I never got my 3rd one (I was just lazy/forgot) until I learned I had been exposed, rushed out and got it but it was already too late at that point really. Pretty stupid because then I had vaccine side effects and covid at the same time lol.

I really have no inclination to get any more at this point until they either update the vaccine or some really bad new variant comes out.
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I'm not getting any more either. I rather regret the third shot, I did it because my girlfriend and family were insisting. I got omicron a little while after (3 months later I think it was). I didn't get any side effects, but I didn't not get omicron, so yeah. Clearly there is no point, and also clearly it's not protecting anyone else if I get it or don't, at this point. Viruses mutate, and here we are. I don't regret getting the original vaccine doses, I got covid before I got those and all the data I've seen suggest that it was quite effective against the original strain of the virus. But it's time to admit that it isn't doing much, if anything, against omicron, and also that omicron isn't even scary unless you're old or immunocompromised. In which case, like during every flu season since forever, you have to protect yourself.

Buzz Lightbeer said:
I can already tell you that it'll be a study where 30% of the people will experience one of the many possible symptoms say 5 months after infection.
Fatigue, headache... So yeah, totally meaningless. I have a headache right now.
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Yeah you have to be wary of those studies that show such a high percentage of long covid occurrences. My girlfriend got really worked up and scared about one of those studies. I read it and it was exactly like you're saying, they gave respondents a follow-up survey like a month later, or 2 months maybe, and indicated they had "long covid" if they answered yes to any of the symptoms, which included such mild and subjective things as "I have felt more tired than usual", "I have had a headache", "I have felt brain fog", etc. I feel brain fog often in the morning... I get headaches sometimes. Sometimes I'm really tired. But that's nothing new, those things are normal to experience sometimes.

-=SS=- said:
A friends father had some weird shit happen with one of his eyes, some inflammation
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I had that, too, actually. My uncle also did, but he didn't get vaxxed, he it it after getting omicron, so given we both got omicron, and only one of us got the vaccine, I am inclined to pin that on covid itself, which causes autoimmune responses due to cytokines.
 
Xorkoth said:
I had that, too, actually. My uncle also did, but he didn't get vaxxed, he it it after getting omicron, so given we both got omicron, and only one of us got the vaccine, I am inclined to pin that on covid itself, which causes autoimmune responses due to cytokines.
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This is the trouble with self-diagnosis and also shitty diagnostic testing. No one really can be sure what is causing what. Your uncle could have been lying about his jab status, or my friends father's inflammation might have been caused by neither vaccine or covid. Causation and correlation.

However, when your sample size is large enough and there is a common denominator in a very short time period you can infer a correlation e.g. the heart attacks from vaccine induced myocarditis. That spike was evident, especially because peak athlete's were being affected and we literally saw it on TV. But it doesn't work with diagnosing covid itself though.. because the symptoms are so vague and common to many other causes e.g. pneumonia is caused by loads of things.

That is why Koch's postulates exist, why they are so important, and why virology is so keen to avoid them. Kary Mullis, Nobel laurate for inventing PCR, could not find the scientific reference for the statement 'HIV is the probable cause of AIDs'. He asked all the top virologists, none of them could provide him a reference. Which is astounding. And why he and many others are left to conclude that there is massive fraud in virology.. that it is a scam. If it has not been scientifically demonstrated, then it is not a fact and only sustained by belief.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yeah you have to be wary of those studies that show such a high percentage of long covid occurrences. My girlfriend got really worked up and scared about one of those studies. I read it and it was exactly like you're saying, they gave respondents a follow-up survey like a month later, or 2 months maybe, and indicated they had "long covid" if they answered yes to any of the symptoms, which included such mild and subjective things as "I have felt more tired than usual", "I have had a headache", "I have felt brain fog", etc. I feel brain fog often in the morning... I get headaches sometimes. Sometimes I'm really tired. But that's nothing new, those things are normal to experience sometimes.
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With Omicron it's been proven that there out significantly less long COVID cases, I don't recall the number exactly but it's not at all prevalent anymore.

Then you have the CDC posting graphs like this, based on a shit study, and a condition that MIGHT be related to a COVID infection.


Seriously, fuck the CDC, this is like the 100th time, their communication has been so harmful throughout the pandemic with zero regard for actual science. And it has spilled over into other countries. It's literally intentional. It is criminal, it just is.

Every mainstream media outlet in my country reported that 33% of COVID infections resulted in long COVID last week!! Every single one, before they had to retract it the day after since there wasn't even a study it was based on. I'm not even exaggerating.

And they wonder why people don't trust vaccines, government institutions and the media.
 
Novavax just gained confidence from the FDA. It's a more "traditional" vax. I'm not taking it, but it could be a good stock market bet (NVAX) if they can figure out their manufacturing issues and also get govt orders/funding

www.nbcnews.com

FDA advisers vote in favor of authorizing Novavax Covid vaccine

If authorized, the Novavax shot would be the only protein-based Covid vaccine available in the U.S., which might appeal to some holdouts, some experts say.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
Electrum1 said:
Novavax just gained confidence from the FDA. It's a more "traditional" vax. I'm not taking it, but it could be a good stock market bet (NVAX) if they can figure out their manufacturing issues and also get govt orders/funding

www.nbcnews.com

FDA advisers vote in favor of authorizing Novavax Covid vaccine

If authorized, the Novavax shot would be the only protein-based Covid vaccine available in the U.S., which might appeal to some holdouts, some experts say.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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They have pushed it off bc they wanna get rid of all old stock. As for Covid shots, I dont get a flu shot, why would I get a Covid shot. Any vaccines I get in the future I will be researching them, and watching the doctor pull it from the vial. So many horror stories about folx ‘accidentally‘ getting the clot shot who were going in for actual vaccines.
 
Dropperneck said:
I’m still waking up and thanking god I’m pure blood. I can’t wrap my head around volunteering to be in the phase three trial for an experimental therapy. I speak to an expert in the field daily, and he thinks similarly, though more analytically.
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I have no sympathy for anyone. The majority of people are absolutely hopeless. What can you say to people who can no longer hear their own self preservation instinct and intuition? If they can't hear their own truth they certainly won't respond to words.
 
FUuttgHWYAAbOF4


www.dailymail.co.uk

Sudden deaths of young people proving a mystery for doctors

Australian doctors are setting up a new national register to try and understand unexpected deaths from the mysterious Sudden Adult Deaths Syndrome (SADS).
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
Electrum1 said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Sudden deaths of young people proving a mystery for doctors

Australian doctors are setting up a new national register to try and understand unexpected deaths from the mysterious Sudden Adult Deaths Syndrome (SADS).
www.dailymail.co.uk
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i assume that you're implying that covid vaccination is, at least in part, responsible for these deaths?

is there anything - and i don't mean "it's obvious and if you don't believe that you're an ignorant blind sheep" :) - to make that case? what information do you have on the vaccination status of those who died, for example?

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
i assume that you're implying that covid vaccination is, at least in part, responsible for these deaths?

is there anything - and i don't mean "it's obvious and if you don't believe that you're an ignorant blind sheep" :) - to make that case? what information do you have on the vaccination status of those who died, for example?

alasdair
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Yes, I'm assuming it could be related to covid vax shots. Post 434, 435, and 436 in this thread lend support to my theory
 
thanks.

yeah, that's a good point but...

there's no information about the vaccination status of the subjects in the cases from the daily mail article so this just smells of confirmation bias.

alasdair
 
People all cope how they need to, with how this is all going down. I only privately lobbied a few of my family members to think before joining the trial, and was mostly successful. Other people should do what they need to, and there isn’t a day that goes by where I’m not super happy I’m pure blood. It makes you appreciate health and life more.
 
Yeah, until there is peer reviewed proof that vax shots aren't a miracle, then the community that peer reviews scientific studies won't accept that it's not a miracle
 
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