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The ISIS Megathread

Syria Kurds advance in heart of Kobane

Syrian Kurds fighting the Islamic State group in the flashpoint town of Kobane made new gains Tuesday, expelling the jihadists from several central buildings and seizing weapons, a monitor said.

The advance came hours after the US-led coalition launched four strikes against ISIS positions in central Kobane, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) staged a "special operation" during which they captured six buildings used by ISIS, said the Britain-based group, which relies on a network of sources in Syria.
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The rest can be found at that link

So it seems like ISIS has overstretched themselves more then a wee bit. It was only a matter of time before the YPG/YPJ pushed them back anyway as the Kurds really have no place to go.
 
Where are the super rational totalitarian biomech angel alien army when you need them? This world needs an occupier. All of it. 'Terminators' patrolling every land, ready to put the smackdown on human assholes everywhere. And no, their moral coding is nothing less than perfection. They are of angels after all. Fuck humans. Especially male humans. I'd like to see so many of them lined up on crosses and set alight. Burn bright, for once, truly, ye cocksuckers. Assholes.
 
Evacuate aall Kurds now OR arm them 1000x better. they are well trained fighters and could easily take Isis with better weapons tbh
Isis in one area = kill them all.

Next

edit - i just watched Russel Brand's video. He has points but then again almost everyone, including the Middle East, is at war with Isis, everyone would benefit with them gone
 
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You really think
in the long term
putting more
Arms
in the hands
of people
potentially aligned with the PKK
will lead to stability?
 
Not at all. There wont be stability in the Middle East forever if history repeats.

I think Kurds deserve more respect though, yah they are defending their home but tbh they have stepped up when everyone else hasn't. if going to arm anyone may as well be them. I see that Isis picked up (supply crates) from some of the drops westerners do/did, (weapons, etc) kinda fucked really.
 
24:35 said:
You really think
in the long term
putting more
Arms
in the hands
of people
potentially aligned with the PKK
will lead to stability?
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Well in the long run if Kurds can manage to gain more rights for themselves then yes. They certainly have no problems with the west so i don't see a problem in arming them to the teeth to get rid of ISIS and possibly also fight the Turkish state so they will stop being treated like second class citizens.
 
paranoid android said:
Well in the long run if Kurds can manage to gain more rights for themselves then yes. They certainly have no problems with the west so i don't see a problem in arming them to the teeth to get rid of ISIS and possibly also fight the Turkish state so they will stop being treated like second class citizens.
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I'm sure the Kurds will completely destroy ISIS and create their feminist Marxist utopia in the Middle East and live happily ever after.
 
I sympathise with the Kurds, I hope the best for them. That being said there's so many different factions and groups in these conflicts it's hard to keep track.

It's getting tedious to hand-pick which army of the dozens in each country we as Americans or the "international community" support. I would wish to respect the soverignty of Syria and it's ruler by law Assad and allow him to handle ISIS.
 
Remember when Obama said no boots would hit the ground.

I (we all said) said ISIS ain't playing.

Now more boots hit the ground (to advise) ... Troops do not advise, they act.

Marines & ARMY keep battle in check by presence, but ISIS will force a ground war. Behind all thier religious, military, strategic goals is a thirts for conflict. No true warrior executes women and children. These actions instigate a reponse.


More troops will be needed to deal with ISIS when they are all done playing track the convoys/ smart bomb artillery. Once ISIS/ISIL is desperate the heat will be on and only aggresive response will suffice a resolution.

-Marine Corps Vet. Cpl.
 
Isis are selling oil very cheap per barrel, who are really buying it off them? (i am actually asking lol)

Saddam Hussein would of shut down Isis in 2007 if..., but we will never know and there's no point talking about it
 
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LosBlancos said:
I'm sure the Kurds will completely destroy ISIS and create their feminist Marxist utopia in the Middle East and live happily ever after.
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With Marxism there really is no need for feminism as Marxists consider everyone to be equal regardless of gender, ethnic background, religion, etc. As for this Utopia you and your lot keep hammering on about you may want to read "Socialism:Utopian and scientific". I think it was written by this guy named Engels and shoots down your stupid ideas of Marxism being Utopian quite nicely. Personally i think Right Libertarianism is nothing but a Utopian dream but i don't go ragging on that laughable ideology every chance i get.

Also it's hardly the fault of the Kurds if you can't keep track of all the groups in the region.
 
With Marxism there really is no need for feminism as Marxists consider everyone to be equal regardless of gender, ethnic background, religion, etc.
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This can be dangerous: insofar as Marxist political movements ignore the modes of oppression conferred by ascribed identity, they can end up reproducing such oppression among their own ranks (or in post-revolutionary society). This can be insidious; for example, Marxists who take the theoretical stance that all oppression is 'reducible' to class-oppression are prone to recreating gendered exploitation and domination in how they treat others.

ebola
 
Escher's Waterfall said:
I really wish politicians wouldn't say stuff like that, nor would the American media ask them such questions.

IMO, it shows our hand. Even if we were never planning for boots on the ground, why tell the enemy that?
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I think Obama's plan all along may well have been for there to be boots on the ground. I think it was just a matter of taking baby steps so that less people would oppose the effort.
 
ebola? said:
This can be dangerous: insofar as Marxist political movements ignore the modes of oppression conferred by ascribed identity, they can end up reproducing such oppression among their own ranks (or in post-revolutionary society). This can be insidious; for example, Marxists who take the theoretical stance that all oppression is 'reducible' to class-oppression are prone to recreating gendered exploitation and domination in how they treat others.

ebola
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I don't look at the revolution as just the overthrow of Capitalism and the transition into a Socialist economy and eventually Communism. We need to first unite as a class and in doing that we must first do away with all the trappings that divide us. The old social order that led to these oppressive notions must be destroyed. Misogyny as we know it anyway came about as a result of Bourgeois society because it was not that long ago that women where treated as property to the Capitalist the same way cattle where.
 
ebola? said:
This can be dangerous:
insofar as Marxist political movements
ignore the modes of oppression
conferred by ascribed identity..
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Marxist political movements
also ignore
Actual Identity.

The PKK
are mysogynist
by sending women in
as front-line soldiers
as cannon fodder
against
a bunch o' fools
controllin' a bunch o' fools
by misappropreatin' The Quran.

Feminism
doesn't need to mean
repeatin' the same mistakes
that 'Man'
has made in the past.

Women are
The Most BEAUTIFUL
Creatures on this Earth...
leading said creatures
down the path of War
is abhorrent.

Also installing a new Communist state
surrounded by extremists
is absurd.
 
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Anyone know what the deal is in Lebanon currently? Hearing word that the government has started shelling Tripoli due to Da'ish insurgency. Just as I was planning a trip there for next year it starts to kick off..

zzz101 said:
Isis are selling oil very cheap per barrel, who are really buying it off them? (i am actually asking lol)
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Mostly Turkey I think.
 
paranoid android said:
I don't look at the revolution as just the overthrow of Capitalism and the transition into a Socialist economy and eventually Communism. We need to first unite as a class and in doing that we must first do away with all the trappings that divide us. The old social order that led to these oppressive notions must be destroyed. Misogyny as we know it anyway came about as a result of Bourgeois society because it was not that long ago that women where treated as property to the Capitalist the same way cattle where.
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A favorite concept of mine is the use of pans-liberation. Racial liberation, women's liberation, (initial) national liberation, sexual liberation, spiritual liberation, economic liberation, press liberation, etc should all exist simultaneously under a greater umbrella movement in any successful revolutionary scenario. If the seeds of liberation are planted at every faucet of society, the less likely things are to become authoritarian. It builds of sort of social checks and balanced I think, and is ultimately what will ignite class solidarity.

nAON said:
Anyone know what the deal is in Lebanon currently? Hearing word that the government has started shelling Tripoli due to Da'ish insurgency. Just as I was planning a trip there for next year it starts to kick off..
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Lebanon shares the bulk of it's border with Syria, which obviously isn't an optimal tourist spot right now, especially for westerners. Although it doesn't look like ISIS has any strong hold within anywhere near Lebanon. IS territory is well north of Damascus, which is the strongest point in Assad's defenses. The Lebanese military is commemorating an attack on Lebanon a while back, we know how defensive cultures can get during these times. It's hard to tell how much concerns a legitimate thread and how much is political.

I would say there's definitely risk a in going, but only slightly more so than usual. I've never been, but the country hasn't exactly been a haven for safety the the previous decade.

Safe travels, if you decide to go :)
 
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