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The gun thread, reloaded.

Exactly, this is what I'm talking about. If I lived in an area where crime was a real problem, I'd feel much better with some sort of weapon in my home as well. It's the gun culture outside of practical hunting culture (which I dislike as well, but thats unrelated to this) that worries me.

I try my best to shoot ELR, which is Extreme Long Range shooting. We shoot on average from 1000 meters out to 2500 meters. This is a sport that is practiced in almost every single western country as far as I know. I also have taught some tactical shooting to some guys that offered a reasonable sum to learn what I know. I have no issues with people learning that sort of thing, I think it's a skill set that is still useful even in times of peace as a prevention measure. I do not appreciate those assholes that wear camo and run acting like dickheads and have to have all the gear that is purely tactical, but are essentially behaving like idiots about it... Usually those are the guys that do not last long, and they generally do not ask me for lessons. I charge too much, and I require too much of anyone I do train. I keep the standards I was taught.


But see, I'm not a big guy. I'm much taller than you, ~6ft, but I'm not a big guy by any means. I'd rather not be getting into fights either, thats why I tend to avoid situations where fights may arise. However, if you're unwilling to fight someone how can you be willing to shoot someone? I don't carry a gun, and would rather get into a fist fight with someone that is fully capable of kicking my ass than having to stoop to breaking out a piece to use deadly force on an unarmed person if necessary.

Most of the time you do not have to shoot someone to get them to back off. There is a vast psychological weight in the threat of getting shot alone. Most criminals are weak, and of weak will. They are not looking to get injured, so most often you do not have to fire upon them to make your point to them. If I were ever forced to fire, it would suck, but it's my life or theirs. My life is worth infinitely more to me than theirs to me. I would rather not get into a fist fight, the last time I had a fight like that in the civilian world I got stabbed. It's not something I care to repeat at any time in the future. In fact I would kill to avoid it. Get stabbed does not feel good, and it was the primary motivator for me getting as big as I am, so people would just tend to leave me alone. I still run into people getting stupid though, as my previous posts indicate. I seem to attract negative attention from assholes for some reason...

BTW, you being that much taller than me seems to be the key to most of the morons that think they can rob people or start something. Not sure when people started thinking that height was the determining factor in physical competence but it's mainly only prominent in the violent 'thug' types. Being short I think has made me more of a target by most idiots. It's telling when I get called Manlet by a guy that weighs like 30 pounds less than me but is almost a foot taller than me. The last guy I actually got into a physical altercation fit that description. Me simply being short means weak to many morons.

For evidence just look at the post below this one, it's obvious that there are lot of those idiots out there.

To repeat, how in the world can you be comfortable with pulling a gun on someone with a possible intent to use it but be uncomfortable defending yourself in a fight?

You have it wrong. I have no issue defending myself, I just don't want to be that close to someone that means to do me harm. I can't trust anyone that means to do me harm, obviously, so why should I assume that they are not armed themselves? Don't get it confused is some idiot charged at me after learning that I am armed, I would not hesitate to shoot them in the face. My choice to be civil and adhere to the non-aggression principle is completely voluntary.

Sorry, I wasn't referring to you personally. Those "tacti-morons" as it were, is who I was referring to.

That is ok, those of us with actual operational experience deal with this a lot. There a lot of "posers" out there. I stopped sharing with people that I am former military because it's so bad that no one believes me at first, no one thinks there are any short people in the military apparently. Much less ones that have my background..... The amount of posers is just unbelievable, and the Tacti-cool morons are the source of that idiocy.

We're members of the same society in more ways than one, Joe. But who exactly is my "tribe"? If you think I'm a liberal with a gun in the crosshairs sticker on my bumper, this is incorrect.

Our primary society between us is this site. As for in the real world, I don't have a society that I associate with outside of fellow Rothbardians. I don't think anything about you to be honest. I believe in letting you show me what you are about through civil debate, in fact I encourage it.


I'm not really following the costumes and decorations bit.

It's an An-Cap joke about the police and federal "authorities".

So the consumer market for ammunition isn't spiking whenever there's talk of gun control, it's the government artificially creating a shortage by buying up ammo themselves? I'm not denying that the government is behind this, I just believe it's the government creating a fear of tighter regulation, thus influencing the consumer market.


Not really. People still shoot daily/weekly. Some people stock up and rotate, but otherwise other than the increase of new sales, there has not been much of a large increase in consumer consumption in ammo. You have to understand, most ammo factories sell to the feds first by contract, and the surplus goes into the open market. Last year I know they bought over a billion rounds, and this year that amount has been even greater. It's just now starting to get back to normal. I haven't been able to find my caliber, because it's the caliber the feds use until this past month or so locally. It's starting to trickle out again now. The feds always get first dibs though...
 
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I carry everywhere I go, not because I feel scared, because I'm visibly not a little dude 5'6" and ~200lbs with a 6 pack. Even with my short height people move out of my way. I carry because I do not want to have to fight for my life ever. I never want to be in a situation where I have to actually fight another human again. I'm done with all of that, I did it enough in the military. My firearms are to keep people that do think about threatening me away. I'm not unstable, I just have issues with being touched by people that I don't know in a violent manner, so as a layer of defense to prevent it should it occur I carry. You also have the aspect that some of us are merely protectors of the tribe. I am one of those sheep-dogs as it were. I only feel comfortable when I know everyone is safe. That is just how I am.





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Sound like classic small man syndrome.
 
Sound like classic small man syndrome.

Yes, because I feel threatened by your height... If anything it shows more about your character and how you have to justify feeling threatened by someone that you perceive for some stupid reason to be physically lesser than you.

It's ok, I can understand if you want to be weak and blame me for displaying how weak you are. I will not hold it against you though, because I am not offended by your choice to remain weak.
 
Yes, because I feel threatened by your height... If anything it shows more about your character and how you have to justify feeling threatened by someone that you perceive for some stupid reason to be physically lesser than you.

It's ok, I can understand if you want to be weak and blame me for displaying how weak you are. I will not hold it against you though, because I am not offended by your choice to remain weak.
I drive a car. 4x4 beats man holding a gun, but I don't see how being weak is a problem unless you are looking for a fight. What exactly are we fighting over? Is it a girl? If so then surely a dance off would settle the matter or perhaps she just picks the guy that make her lady bits tingle the most. I doubt packing your bulge with a glock will seal the deal
 
Our primary society between us is this site. As for in the real world, I don't have a society that I associate with outside of fellow Rothbardians. I don't think anything about you to be honest. I believe in letting you show me what you are about through civil debate, in fact I encourage it.

All societies (with exceptions of course) are tied into society at large. You're a US citizen, so am I. We pay into the same civil institutions, spend the same currencies, speak the same language, participate in the same economy, and if I knew you better would be able to draw on something more specific. We interact with one another and the same institutions in some way much more often than just on Bluelight.

But I digress, I know you have a different definition of "society". We've talked about this before.
 
Public shooting of the day:

Today's shooting is brought to you by LAX International Airport

A 29-year-old man was shot in the leg and at least two others, including a TSA employee, were injured when a gunman opened fire inside Los Angeles International Airport on Friday, according to a report.
The shooter apparently slipped past security before squeezing off several shots inside Terminal 3 shortly after 9 a.m., NBC Los Angeles reported.
At least two people were shot in the gunfire, but it was not immediately clear how bad the victims were wounded.
Authorities evacuated the terminal a short time after the gunfire erupted and nabbed the suspected gunman, the news station reported.
A TSA worker with a bloody hand was pictured outside with emergency workers.
 
....unless there's a gun under every pillow. Again, we're not talking about keeping something in the home for protection just in case. I'm talking about a defense culture that is emerging.

It's true. I am a big believer in the second amendment, but I just do not understand those individuals who insist upon keeping a pistol or a rifle in every room, always one within reach. I can't understand that level of paranoia.

I have my permit, and I carry on occasion, but it's not something that I do all the time and I don't keep one always within reach. I'm not sure if my opinion on the matter would change if perhaps I had a house of my own, a family to protect and such, but, as it is, I'm content with carrying when I feel it might be necessary and not all the time, and I'm content with not having a gun always within reach. I feel perfectly safe...
 
I carry everywhere I go, not because I feel scared, because I'm visibly not a little dude 5'6" and ~200lbs with a 6 pack. Even with my short height people move out of my way. I carry because I do not want to have to fight for my life ever.

Sorry I'm confused, are people moving out of your way because of your staunch alpha male status or because you're walking around with a firearm?
 
Lol hahaha. Don't you just love Americans like Joeof. I swear to god Americans have got to be one of the most one dimensional, selfish, ignorant and dumb people on this planet. Their entire culture is based on greed and superficial wants, and their knowledge of the rest of the world is worse than a ten year old in another country.

Everyone should be allowed to carry again. Guns are illegal in some parts of the world, does that stop the criminals from getting a gun, no, they are criminals, the don't abide by the law. It only stops citizens, so I see where the dumb Americans are coming from.

What I don't get is; dumb, ignorant, colorful extra-large big mac, reality TV driven, money greed capitalistic bullshit American society trusts its citizens to arm themselves to the teeth with war type assault rifles, grenades, sniper rifles and night vision scopes, RPGs, long range scopes, .223 human purpose made killer bullets, large capacity magazines and explosives - BUT they do not trust their citizens with ....drugs. I mean companies that make washing machines and fridges also make missiles for war in America. That is the type of ideology this drungo above is brainwashed in. Heck, its citizens can probably by a cruise missile, ready for launch in case the robber manages to drive away. Yet, they can not be trusted with drugs. Funny ass shit.

It is not our society trying to disarm your cartoon fake free state. It is your society trying to change entire nations' laws and political systems. It is your country that enforces the rest of the world to keep drugs illegal, despite the rise of gangs and criminal elements. All for the chase of the capitalistic dollar. You think you are free? LOL really? I am not talking bout a M60 heavy machine gun...go outside and snort some Cocaine, then we will see how free you think you are. Your government spies on you, all of what you do electronically. You are brainwashed and American dumb. You are far from free...heck even in backward society like Iran's has more free elements than yours. They have drug laws light years ahead of your dumb ass country. How America has became such a unilateral force is beyond me...but like they say, every dog has his day.
 
What I don't get is; dumb, ignorant, colorful extra-large big mac, reality TV driven, money greed capitalistic bullshit American society trusts its citizens to arm themselves to the teeth with war type assault rifles, grenades, sniper rifles and night vision scopes, RPGs, long range scopes, .223 human purpose made killer bullets, large capacity magazines and explosives - BUT they do not trust their citizens with ....drugs.

I tried to find the points you might be making in between all of your insults but had a hard time doing so... could you please turn down the anti-americanism just a bit?

EDIT: And here, this might help you: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/adjectives.htm (Especially the part about adjectives in a series. PROTIP: nouns do not magically become adjectives just because you put them at the end of your series.) I'm sorry. I'm sure the last thing you needed was an English lesson from a 'dumb, ignorant, money, big mac American.'
 
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^hah. Thats gotta be in texas right? One thing ive found that if you get arrested for the firest time in your entire life and its for a pipe with a trace (literal) of thc on it and the piggos find your firearms safety l?icense card, they WANT those guns and seem to make things exponentially worse. I only carry when i feel its warranted. And it sucks bc in my state carry permits are not easy to obtain. But if im going to walk run ride on some of the wooded trails we have, then yea. There are pretty big bucks that have fucked with ppl before and there can be charge if startled. Had a close call a few years ago with one that i must have startled with my SAMP (staunch alpha male profile) and it took a hard run then stopped. I had my gf with me at the time and that thing prob was our weights plus fifty combined. Im no hunter so im not going to be able to take that thing with a blade lol. And since my 45 is smaller than a machete, i usually take that in a backpack or rarely in a iwb holster. Also been times where ive had to make deliveries in baaaad places in the city where they will fuck with you for no reason and then i only see it as an absolute last line of defense. My exs dad has a small arsenal. Gun in every room, HIGH powered rifles and handsguns plus he reloads his own ammo so he has thousands of rounds for each. He doesnt hunt and lives waaay out in the country, doesnt venture anywhere there isnt air conditioning or isnt car accessable yet has a gun all the time and no carry permit. Thats paranoid imo.

A lot of other countries dont have to worry about some wanna be thug getting his hands on grammas pos revolver and shooting at someone bc he gets angry.
 
The USA is on its way out as the ecomomic big boy and china is soon to pass us up... Once were not all powerful we may be outed for our widespread "murican terrorism".. If that happens anyone with a weapon will be a target...

Just like we do when we invade foriegn "terrorist" nations...

Wonder why all the big businesses outsource everything to china? They know its coming so theyre making themselves allies...
 
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what makes you believe you have the right to initiate force against a peaceful person for owning an inanimate object?

If by "initiate force", you mean "enforcing common sense rules regulations and standards" then i believe it should be....

When that inanimate object carries a high risk of causing harm others...

Just like like cars, planes, explosives, most every other type of instrument designed for use as a weapon... Etc, etc...
 
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