The Great Wired Drug Non-Controversy

[Coolio]

What fucking country has crystal meth for prescription? You gotta be kidding me ... Methedrine has been banned for medical use since the seventies, or even earlier. I doubt that it's still used medically, except for some third world countries, like in Asia or Africa ... I know that meth pills are populair in Thailand, where they're known as "Yaba". If I'm not mistaken, they are diverted from medical use as well.

Psych0naut, the USA? Methamphetamine is a Schedule II drug here, just like cocaine, amphetamine, fentanyl, codeine, etc. It's prescribed all the time by GPs and specialists to treat obesity, ADHD, and narcolepsy... it's just not anywhere near as common as amphetamine or the other prescription stimulants.

Yeah, that's right, cocaine is also a Schedule II drug. "Its current medical application is limited to topical use for anesthesia of the ear, nose, and throat, and for bronchoscopy."

yes, the difference is the tiny amount in the pills. I start off a meth run by loading the pipe with about 40 mg...those pills have, each. one 1/5 of that.

Well, people who smoke meth are crazy. I'm perfectly content getting high off of 20mg of oral amphetamine or methamphetamine. It's not comparable to MDMA this way like it is when you smoke hundreds of milligrams, but you get all the benefits of recreationally using the high doses most meth users do. Can't shut up, grinding your teeth, tactile sensations, anorexia, superior ability to focus and concentrate, euphoria.

 

[ATF]

What fucking country has crystal meth for prescription? You gotta be kidding me ... Methedrine has been banned for medical use since the seventies, or even earlier. I doubt that it's still used medically, except for some third world countries, like in Asia or Africa ... I know that meth pills are populair in Thailand, where they're known as "Yaba". If I'm not mistaken, they are diverted from medical use as well.

You did the same thing with Klonopin. There happens to be quite a few users from the US here, are you unhappy about that or are you just not familiar with US laws by chance?

 

[Psych0naut]

Psych0naut, the USA? Methamphetamine is a Schedule II drug here, just like cocaine, amphetamine, fentanyl, codeine, etc. It's prescribed all the time by GPs and specialists to treat obesity, ADHD, and narcolepsy... it's just not anywhere near as common as amphetamine or the other prescription stimulants.

Yeah, that's right, cocaine is also a Schedule II drug. "Its current medical application is limited to topical use for anesthesia of the ear, nose, and throat, and for bronchoscopy."

I would have thought that medical use of Cocaine would have been fased out, as there are many non-recreational alternatives which work just as well.

You did the same thing with Klonopin. There happens to be quite a few users from the US here, are you unhappy about that or are you just not familiar with US laws by chance?

No, I didn't think that methamphetamine would still be prescribed in any Western-country, or even any country at all, except for maybe a handfull of third-world or developing countries. Even dextro-amphetamine is rarely prescribed, and even unavailable for prescription in the majority of countries in Europe, so prescription methamphetamine seemed a bit bizare to me. And no, I'm not familiar with US laws, why would I? Untill recently I didn't even know the legality of many drugs in my own country, let alone in any other.

 

[lolbob]

I hate the mentality of:

"If your not explicitly anti-drug, you are promoting hard drug use"

 

[Fausty]

I read the original Wired mini-article when originally published, I noted that it was both useful and enjoyable, and I immediately knew there'd be some manufactured "controversy" over it from some quarter. Just a hair too much harm-reduction style objectivity in it to pass the muster of the drug censors, I thought. And, lo, it came to pass. . .

Interesting how reality can seem so threatening to some folks - I was just commenting on the exact same dynamic in another context, tonite. One sees these big, fat, over-inflated balloons of sanctimony and, with pin in hand, one can hardly resist asking the question with the sharp point first.

Peace,

Fausty

 

[guinnesseal]

"I hate the mentality of:

'If your not explicitly anti-drug, you are promoting hard drug use'"

lolbob, you sum up the prob i had w/ the NY Times response perfectly. I think there's a sort of puritanical culture you see in most media outlets in regards to drugs - they act like they have to speak out stronly against "immoral" drug use, even while their advertisers try to convince you you need "non-recreation" drugs like ambien, diet-pills, social anxiety disorder pills, etc etc. It's this nonsensical moralistic division that's the problem - it makes no sense and obscures real differences between types of drug.

What we need though is more straight talk like what that Wired reporter said on his blog, honestly reflecting on reasonable views.

 

[peterluber]

Haha, this guy has 989 posts and doesn't know about desoxyn?

 

[Psych0naut]

Haha, this guy has 989 posts and doesn't know about desoxyn?

No, why the fuck should I? Medical use of methamphetamine has been banned here for a few decennia, and when it was still used medically, it was used under the pharmaceutical name of "Methedrine". That it's used under the name of "Desoxyn" in the US is of little importance to me since I don't live there, and I don't have much with meth anyway.

 

[peterluber]

What fucking country has crystal meth for prescription? You gotta be kidding me ... Methedrine has been banned for medical use since the seventies, or even earlier. I doubt that it's still used medically, except for some third world countries, like in Asia or Africa ... I know that meth pills are populair in Thailand, where they're known as "Yaba". If I'm not mistaken, they are diverted from medical use as well.

You were being a pompous know-it-all douchebag.