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The gateway drug discussions thread

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Okay I'm starting this thread because I want to know what people think about this "Gateway Drug" term/theory. I've heard it used SO many times and I'm curious to say what the REAL experts (us) have to say about this.

Personally, I don't know. I've never seen a cannabis leaf put a gun to my head and tell me to do cocaine, but at the same time it seems that most of us who are HERE, talking about our experiences with substance use / abuse, started with marijuana. So what do you guys think?

Mods - feel free to move this to the correct forum, I very rarely stray from my lovely PD home, so I wouldn't even know where to put it... But if possible just leave it in PD for a short time so I can get the responses of those I hold dearest first? Thanks!

<3 TMH
 
Personally I feel that alcohol is more of a 'gateway' drug than anything else. You know how it is, people get drunk and will do almost anything regardless of what it is or what the consequences may be.
 
I think the term is bullshit tbh.

If you're the kinda person to do drugs then you're the kinda person to do drugs.
 
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ChinbarWhalloped said:
Personally I feel that alcohol is more of a 'gateway' drug than anything else. You know how it is, people get drunk and will do almost anything regardless of what it is or what the consequences may be.
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Yup. I've seen so many people who wouldn't have smoked a joint otherwise smoke it because they were drunk and everyone else was doing it so they didn't care.

The only reason cannabis is seen as a "gateway drug" is because it's illegal. For some it may instill the reaction of "Well I've already done one illegal drug, I guess I'll try another.". People don't view alcohol as a drug so it's not termed a "gateway drug" because it's not illegal but IMO alcohol is a huge gateway drug.
 
The first trip I ever had was from hash cake. It blew my mind. Since then I have been wanting to go deeper into lala-land. Psychedelics like LSD and shrooms are better for this porpose I discovered. Would I have done them if I hadn't discovered back then what the mind was capable of? I don't know. Possibly. Has it been a gateway? Difficult to say. I would say no. I think I would probably have tried psychedelics anyway at some point.
 
I think it depends on the individual. For me alcohol is also the gateway drug. I'm more prone to do psychedelics or ketamine when I'm drunk than when I'm sober. Although this also counts, to some extent for psychedelics. If I've taken a psychedelic I'm more prone to smoking a joint or doing a line of ketamine, but not to drink gallons of alcohol.

But i guess it's much different for others, so I think the whole idea of a particular gateway drug is somewhat off the charts.
 
i could go both ways on that question.

i've always been fascinated by psychoactives, and have wanted to try any that i could find starting at some point in early adolescence. it wasn't drinking or smoking pot that made me want to try mushrooms and cocaine. it was not having tried them that made me want to try them.

on the other hand, it was marijuana that led me into a community of drug users. once in that community (as a pot smoker), i was exposed to both A) other drugs and B) much more pro-drug attitudes/social norms. and i'm sure both of those things had a hand in moderating the relationship between my curiosity and my actual drug use.

i don't think pot made me want to try other drugs. it just made it easier and made me less apprehensive about it.
 
this is such a difficult question. It's hard to say because everyone reacts differently.

People that don't have boundaries, yes it can lead on to other things. If you first tried pot because you were interested how drugs effect your body and the feelings you get, obviously you don't think about other substances at the time, but you want to experiment with other things that make you feel good or seem interesting to your mind.

I think the biggest gateway for me was propaganda and lying. Before I read facts I just heard rumors of what drugs did to people. When I was in middle school i used to think lsd and mushrooms would hurt your brain and body and you will not have a long life.

Now that I have done lots of research on psychoactive chemicals I can say I get very interested when I learn the truth and hear effects that appeal to me.

If you try pot for the first time, and you state that you will try it, but you don't want to do any other drugs. You aren't likely to have it become a gateway drug. The only time that person would go outside that statement is that they learn something that really interested them.
If you didn't do any drugs, someone said i have mushrooms you want to take some? They can go online and see how it effects the body and what to expect. Then they become interested.

One person can completely say no to weed if they don't think the effects suite their needs, maybe another drug does that for them.

My point is that you don't need a gateway drug to become interested in the next step. All you need is research and some learning to convince your mind that it seems fun.

If you get bored because you use your substance way to much to enjoy it anymore, then that sparks research and curiosity to research other substances. But the spark could be a comment by another person rather than using a substance (and having it tell you "drugs are fun")
 
marijuana/alcohol are definitely gateway drugs...

of course every high-school'er will deni this because of the simple fact of immaturity.
maybe a senior or a mature junior would admit it.

when i was in highschool i'd say "weed ain't no gateway drug."

just like u said "cannabis leaf never put a gun to my head and made me do cocaine."

but then again, it depends on the type of person you are.

some people can use heroin once a week for the rest of there lives, while others (most people)... would slip up and do it more than once a week and eventually become an addict.

But my answer is

yes there are definitely gateway drugs, but who's to say marijuana is a gateway drug or who's to say alcohol is a gateway drug.

But the gateway drug "theory" is true IMO.

some people are like fucking retards and say that IF you even are a pot head, you're garanteed to become an addict on another drug, which IMO is stupid and ignorant.

everyone is different

i think this is erowids.org 's saying... "know your body, know your mind, know your limit." ... idk it's something like that.
 
^^^ I agree. I don't think that any particular substance leads DIRECTLY to the use of any other substance, but instead that being in that environment and being part of that culture may lead to more experimentation.

I'm really glad that I started this thread, a large number of ideas and opinions are flowing here.

<3 TMH

EDIT- HAHA B9 I agreed with you before you even spoke!
 
My story:

I started drinking and smoking cigarettes a while ago, my first experience with marijuana was negative due to not being in the right "Set & Setting." I went back to alcohol and cigarettes and got really into ecstasy and coke. Alcohol IMO is the biggest gateway drug and in my opinion it sends you on this path that is more stimulated... well for me. Once I started to enjoy weed I also started trying Psychedelics. Thus, I have dropped my stimulant use with exceptions to an occasional roll here and there and once in a while drinking just till I am buzzed.


Any first time use of a substance is a gateway drug. The first substance of choice is the gateway obviously because now you have stepped into the world of drugs! :D You get bored with one substance and decide "hey, im going to try this stuff out now" and walla, your previous drug was the gateway.
 
The reason people say marijuana and alcohol are "gateway drugs" because everyone starts with those, well no shit, who tries shooting H before having a drink or smoking a joint? a select few. Since everyone tries weed and alcohol first, everyone who does "harder drugs" has most likely started with one of those two. So people think weed and alcohol has led someone to a heroin addiction. They are gateway drugs in the sense that they do introduce you to a high, then people who like getting high might experiment with other drugs.
But just because someone smoked marijuana or drank alcohol it DOESNT mean that there going to be a future heroin or cocaine addict, it just means that they have felt a kind of "high" (which may or may not lead them to other drugs, totally depends on the person)
 
i think the term "gateway drug" stems largely from misinformation (specifically about marijuana). when it's pounded into your head (practically from birth) that marijuana is an evil substance that will essentially ruin you life--and then you try it and it's nothing like anything you've been warned about--you start to wonder "hey, what else have i been blatantly lied to about?"

and then the experimentation begins.
 
Well the gas station down the street from my old house when I was younger used to sell No Doz caffiene pills, Me and my friends used to get em all the time and stay up the whole night. A shitty drug, but still was my first intro to taking a substance to get intoxicated.
 
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