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The Five Best Countries to Live in if You're a Drug User
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poledriver
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you can here with methadone (aus) and we have injecting centre in Syd that users are allowed to go into and use clean needles and filters and things and shoot up under trained medical supervision or something like that, i've never been in there, but apparently it's saved alot of lives from major OD's that if it happened on the streets they would have most probably died.
who told you the drug laws in sweden are relaxed? id say its quite the opposite, they have the most oppressive drug laws in Europe except for maybe Norway! Its illegal to have drugs in your SYSTEM let alone having them ON you in Sweden!!! Perhaps your thinking of Denmark? Id say that should be on the list for sure.
yes I did mean Denmark and not Sweden. I don't know why I said Sweden ??? Also, mexico ain't too bad.
pkt
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Denmark should be on the list, the Swedish come to Denmark to buy drugs and you can find anything you want,possesion is just a fine and there is also a legalized heroin program and free needles in every pharmacy..... thats one of the main reason's i left the country years ago!
Mexico however is not the greatest place unless your a yankee and just want to smuggle back to the U.S your Oxy's because there are alot of people in Mexico who will kill you if they know you are using drugs as it is a proven fact most drug addicts will easily open theyre mouths and talk for a fix......
^Not all of Mexico is an impoverished war-zone. There's nice parts, and the vast majority of Mexicans aren't cartel hitmen randomly killing civilians. Drugs are readily available, cheap and decriminalized to an extent. Nobody usually really gives a fuck what you do, unless the cops want to shake you down for a bribe.
Yet strangely even though drugs are very cheap and available, most Mexicans would rather get drunk. The ones that are most tolerated are cocaine and flunitrazepam. Coke is kind of still viewed like it was in the 70's. Still a lot of ignorance about weed, though that's changing.
The farmacias in Mexico used to basically sell whatever under the counter. Sometimes oxycodone or morphine awhile ago, but usually it's not much cheaper to get than in the US. Also they sometimes try to pass off Neo-Percodans(acetaminophen and propoxyphene) or Ultram as the good shit.
Most Americans would get Rohypnol, ketamine, ephedrine or anabolic steroids. Used to be cheap and easy. Later they cracked down on the farmacias
. Now basically the only sure thing you can get is Soma or codeine, though there might still be some crooked doctors, vets or pharmacists. Haven't checked or heard of any success recently.
Yet strangely even though drugs are very cheap and available, most Mexicans would rather get drunk. The ones that are most tolerated are cocaine and flunitrazepam. Coke is kind of still viewed like it was in the 70's. Still a lot of ignorance about weed, though that's changing.
The farmacias in Mexico used to basically sell whatever under the counter. Sometimes oxycodone or morphine awhile ago, but usually it's not much cheaper to get than in the US. Also they sometimes try to pass off Neo-Percodans(acetaminophen and propoxyphene) or Ultram as the good shit.
Most Americans would get Rohypnol, ketamine, ephedrine or anabolic steroids. Used to be cheap and easy. Later they cracked down on the farmacias
. Now basically the only sure thing you can get is Soma or codeine, though there might still be some crooked doctors, vets or pharmacists. Haven't checked or heard of any success recently.
pkt
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Not all African American's play basketball, not all Germans drink beer, not all Americans are idiots. I am not saying all of Mexico is fucked but it surely is not a safe haven either, drugs are also readily available and cheap in the U.S....that's probably why you make the list? Getting hustled by the cops for a couple hundred bucks every time you get caught is o.k until the day they catch you and u dont have the cash to pay the bribe, fuck then i would prefer probation or a couple of months in minimum security prison in the U.S. As far as i can understand from my U.S contacts it is just as easy to go "doctor shopping" and get a script for vicodin than driving around the streets of dodgy neighborhoods in Tijuana looking for a botica that will sell you the pills, health care in the U.S might be expensive but you avoid the risk of getting kidnapped or worse.
Not so sure about that, LOL.pkt said:
Honestly there's parts of the US just as scary and dangerous as some parts of Mexico. At least you have the option to bribe and small amounts of drugs are decriminalized. Think it's about up to 7 grams for weed, a couple XTC pills, a few hits of acid, .5 grams of coke, 1 gram of opium, something stupid like 5mg for meth, heroin or PCP(that's like resin in a just used pipe, why bother?), but like 2 kilograms for peyote(fuck ya!). If you got caught with a gram of weed in the US you will go to jail, caught with the other stuff you might go to prison, especially 2 kilograms of peyote or if that .5 of cocaine is freebase. Depending on the city and your race might even get your ass whopped too. But it's still is very draconian over the threshold in Mexico, probably more due to US pressure. But the cops don't really seem to care that much, especially with all the serious crime. It's probably the opposite problem, they don't want to do anything!
And your not factoring in Mexico's long tradition of entheogen. A lot of the early psychedelic users first tried psychedelic in Mexico, like Timothy Leary.
I do agree that virtually any prison in the US is better than the best one in Mexico. Some of the prisoners have fucking guns in Mexico!
You don't have to drive up to a shady part of Tijuana, the pharmacies are right there when you cross the border! Also, with prescription tracking laws in most state, cops busting pain clinics and pill mills alike, and doctors switching to electronic prescriptions it's not as easy as you would think anymore. Only good thing I can basically guarantee you'll get from a US doctor is ADD drugs like Ritalin or Adderall, in an amount that would last a tweaker a day. If your not an old white lady it'd be hard to even get Vicodin with a lot of doctors if you're not obviously ill. But somehow it still gets out to the streets.
And in a lot of neighborhoods where people go to buy drugs in the US there is the risk of getting kidnapped or worse.
slimvictor
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I never heard of anyone who has that much peyote. But I would like to meet them!
But, it is not true that you will go to jail for a gram of weed in most states in the US. Maybe Nevada or Oklahoma, but certainly not California or Oregon.
^Yeah, more likely to just shoot you on the spot in some really bad places. Kidnapping is just too risky with little return in the US compared to armed robbery.
Maybe not in California or Oregon, not sure if the majority of states are as relaxed as them. Think most do give at least a day in jail, if not more. All I know is one state over if they find a roach or a stem you're going to be arrested and put in jail, no warnings or misdemeanor paper arrests.slimvictor said:
ro4eva
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Dude, that's messed up. Damn Bible belt.
shimazu
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THC are you serious? You think someone is going to shoot a random person TRYING to give them money and someone THEY KNOW will come back with MORE MONEY.
Its not the dealers themselves that are volatile for the most part, its the crackheads and other hoodlums that congregate in the same areas as the dealers. You act like people get shot at for no reason, theres almost always a reason, and its almost always about money
Its not the dealers themselves that are volatile for the most part, its the crackheads and other hoodlums that congregate in the same areas as the dealers. You act like people get shot at for no reason, theres almost always a reason, and its almost always about money
You could say you'd only get murdered in Mexico for a reason, mostly for money. That's what the Mexican government claims, though I and a lot of others think many are innocent victims caught in the crossfire.
There's 300 million people in the US and a lot of murders, about 15,000 a year. Forgot how may kidnappings, but more than you'd think. Shit happens. I've heard of people getting shot for less. Maybe not the dealers as long as you don't act like a fucking dumbass, but there are crazy motherfuckers who'd shoot you for your shoes.
I think the thing that distinguishes Mexican crime from the US is the general level of brutality, victims per scene, very high murder rates in places like Juarez or Sinaloa, heavy involvement with organized crime and the impunity in which they operate(IIRC 95% of murders go unsolved). I'm not saying the US is the same as Mexico, or that shit ain't kind of fucked up there(what's new), I'm just say there's some parts of Mexico safer than some parts of the US.
There's 300 million people in the US and a lot of murders, about 15,000 a year. Forgot how may kidnappings, but more than you'd think. Shit happens. I've heard of people getting shot for less. Maybe not the dealers as long as you don't act like a fucking dumbass, but there are crazy motherfuckers who'd shoot you for your shoes.
I think the thing that distinguishes Mexican crime from the US is the general level of brutality, victims per scene, very high murder rates in places like Juarez or Sinaloa, heavy involvement with organized crime and the impunity in which they operate(IIRC 95% of murders go unsolved). I'm not saying the US is the same as Mexico, or that shit ain't kind of fucked up there(what's new), I'm just say there's some parts of Mexico safer than some parts of the US.