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Election 2020 The Final Countdown v. Nov. 3rd

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JessFR said:
Far as I can tell that never happened. It's simply false.

Unless you can find a copy or archived copy from a reliable source of the original snopes article.

But while we're on the subject, I wanna say thay it really disgusts me how people attack hunter Bidens drug problems. And it disgusts me even more than bluelighters do it.

The reasons should be pretty fucking obvious. Not to mention that we were never electing hunter Biden.
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Lol this is why I don’t use social media anymore, it was a meme apparently. God 4chan is cancer. But there have been super orwellian snopes of the past that did the same thing. They had the one about her smashing her hard drives as mostly false bc her aides did it, but then changed it to mixture when ridiculed.
 
I believed the reason something was made about Hunter Biden's' drug problems was in regards to him making massive business deals and possibly being compromised surely you don't think someone with a serious drug problem should be allowed access to such sensitive information which they could be open to selling especially when dealing with disgusting human beings such as the Chinese "Communist" Party who use blackmail as currency.
 
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cduggles said:
Let the “inconsistencies” begin. 😁
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To be fair, I probably wouldn't consider reddit social media.

Like, if I used reddit but not Facebook or Twitter or the like. I'd still say I didn't use social media.

In the same way I wouldn't really call bluelight social media either.
 
OcCo said:
I believed the reason something was made about Hunter Biden's' drug problems was in regards to him making massive business deals and possibly being compromised surely you don't think someone with a serious drug problem should be allowed access to such sensitive information which they could be open to selling especially when dealing with disgusting human beings such as the Chinese "Communist" Party who use blackmail as currency.
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Well does hunter Biden have a top secret security clearance? Or any active security clearance? Is he being given a position in the new administration that would require such things.

This isn't rhetorical I'm actually asking. I googled the first question and didn't get a solid answer.

And, given a lot of these accusations happened before Biden won, they obviously don't have any connection to who's president, again unless Bidens gonna pull a trump and make an administration out of his whole family.

As I've said before though, for me, this was never about Biden. This was about getting rid of trump. The only requirement for me was "is the alternative better than Trump". Biden could have a lot of shady question marks and still meet that criteria given that trump himself is so blatantly over the top corrupt.
 
cduggles said:
Well, it’s literally defined as a social media platform, so I would disagree with you.
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Literally defined by what? Words don't have absolute meanings. They have meanings covered by consensus of opinion.

And even if they did, what matters isn't what the words means but if droppers could have plausibly been using it in a way that means what he said wasn't inconsistent. I don't know that that's the case, but I think it's entirely believable that it could be.

As I said, if I were a reddit mod, I would still say I didn't use social media, and there would be no intent to deceive in my doing so.

I'm not saying your implication is wrong. I'm saying that if droppers were to say that he simply didn't consider reddit social media. I would find that a completely believable explanation.
 
JessFR said:
Well does hunter Biden have a top secret security clearance? Or any active security clearance? Is he being given a position in the new administration that would require such things.

This isn't rhetorical I'm actually asking. I googled the first question and didn't get a solid answer.

And, given a lot of these accusations happened before Biden won, they obviously don't have any connection to who's president, again unless Bidens gonna pull a trump and make an administration out of his whole family.

As I've said before though, for me, this was never about Biden. This was about getting rid of trump. The only requirement for me was "is the alternative better than Trump". Biden could have a lot of shady question marks and still meet that criteria given that trump himself is so blatantly over the top corrupt.
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Hunters security clearance or lack of, is not as important as asking the question, why were so many people falling over themselves to give Hunter board positions? Sure as hell it wasn't becuuse of his business acumen. Now what Hunter was selling was access to the US govt, something people are willing to pay for, plus Pa Biden fixed some things for the sponsors of Hunter. That is not in dispute, Pa Biden admitted it.

A lot of these accusations date back to when old man Biden did have access to the levers of power. You claim it somehow obviously has nothing to do with who's president, I'll give you that no it doesn't, it has to do with who was Vice President at the time and it shows that Poppy Biden was for sale then, and still is for sale now.

What is disgraceful is the collusion of the tech companies and the media to supress a truthful story based on Hunters laptop. There is no dispute it was Hunters laptop and it corroborated a series of allegations regarding influence for sale. Instead the liberal censorship machine went into overdrive and buried the story because somehow the American people were not to be trusted to form their own opinions. How that is not influencing an election, who knows. There is your tyranny your Orwellian future, the end of western civilisation, right there, staring you in your face.

Leftists masquerading as Liberals cheerleading for authoritarian censorship, silencing of free speech or open debate all of that has happened and will continue to happen, It is very sad and unneccesary, history teaches us that when the talking stops the next thing is very ugly.

I may not agree with what you or anyone else says but I will fight to protect your right to say it.
 
novaveritas said:
Hunters security clearance or lack of, is not as important as asking the question, why were so many people falling over themselves to give Hunter board positions? Sure as hell it wasn't becuuse of his business acumen. Now what Hunter was selling was access to the US govt, something people are willing to pay for, plus Pa Biden fixed some things for the sponsors of Hunter. That is not in dispute, Pa Biden admitted it.
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And then the question is - what if it were Trump that had done it?
For years the leftist media, obsessively, tried to find any minuscule connection or interaction with any foreign official that they could somehow paint as criminal or compromised. It just goes to show us the hypocrisy - they never cared about foreign entanglements AT ALL - which is proven by the way they treated the Hunter Biden scandal (on 2 fronts - Ukraine AND China).
 
Massive absentee ballot fraud organized by one of the two major political parties in the USA? Never. Except...

Vote-Fraud Ruling Shifts Pennsylvania Senate (NY Times - Published 1994)

"Saying Philadelphia's election system had collapsed under "a massive scheme" by Democrats to steal a State Senate election in November, a Federal judge today took the rare step of invalidating the vote and ordered the seat filled by the Republican candidate.

"Substantial evidence was presented establishing massive absentee ballot fraud, deception, intimidation, harassment and forgery," Judge Newcomer wrote in a decision made public today.
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- so then this poses a question., France abolished mail voting in 1975 to prevent fraud. Why hasn't the US attempted to strengthen its electoral integrity over the past decades and in this case actively weakened electoral integrity by sending out millions of unsolicited mail votes? This system is ripe for fraud. So either the government are incompetent to the point of incredulity, or they prefer to be able to tip the scales here and there. The answer will be obvious to some and difficult for others.

In other news:
Biden camp asks for $30M in fundraising appeal to beat Trump's lawsuits
"We wouldn’t be asking if we didn’t truly need $30 million," the email read.



I'd still give Trump a slightly less than 50/50 chance of retaining the Presidency through legal means, but Biden supporters should be extremely concerned.
 
According to Every Legal Vote.com:
Biden = 214
Trump = 232
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Lavrov explained Moscow’s reluctance to congratulate Biden
Moscow to wait for election results to congratulate new US president
The head of Russian diplomacy called the US electoral system one of the most “archaic” in the world on Thursday, after media announced the victory of Joe Biden, which was rejected by Donald Trump.

“They have probably the most archaic electoral system in existence, when compared to other important countries of the world,” Sergey Lavrov declared during a press conference. The Russian Foreign Minister criticized above all the indirect nature of the election of the president, who is chosen by electoral college delegates appointed by universal suffrage, something that is referred to as second-level elections.

According to this system, the winner is not the one who gets the most votes at the national level, but the one who wins the electoral college, made up of 270 delegates from all the states in the US. “If Americans are willing to live by this tradition that considerably deforms the will of the people… let them do so,” said Lavrov.

Like Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Foreign Minister indicated that Moscow would only congratulate the winner of the election after the publication of the official results. “Congratulations are sent before the publication of the results only when there is no litigation,” said the Russian minister.

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"Congratulations are sent even before the official results are announced when there is no dispute when the other side recognizes their opponents' victory. Just as it was in 2016 when Obama recognized Trump's victory. Then no one had any questions. Now such questions remain, so we need to wait for the official announcement", TASS quotes the minister as saying.
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According to: reality.

Biden: 306
Trump: 232

All your cries of the inevitability of a trump victory. And yet you lost. :D

YOU LOST HARD!

And trumps out of here. Watch it happen.
Trump's legal action is failing everywhere. That's what happens when you file bullshit lawsuits. They fail.

Best of all, you lost to Biden.

This wasn't Obama...bYou lost to fucking Biden! :D
 
^ sanctimonius crowing does not solve division. All it shows it displays is a lack of empathy and lack of understanding of what is really going on.

Nobody wins if the people with more votes, not even a proper majority inflict tyranny on those with less votes and the remainder of the population.

No matter how you look at it the vote was extremely close and therefore a lot of people did not vote for Biden almost half the voters in fact. Biden does not have an absolute mandate, neither did Trump in 2016 and even if they did that does not give the right to inflict their will on the remainder.

That is the greatest flaw of democracy, democracy must be tempered with moderation which is why the USA was not set up as a pure democracy, sadly many of those checks and balances have since been weakened to the point where serious abuses can and do happen.

The current situation calls for compromise and consideration and looking hard at what America should be.
Trump didn't realise this or if he did he chose not to act on this. The current crop of Democrats don't seem to realise this either. This divisive circus and the illusion of the voters and votes controlling the national destiny will continue whilst the insiders loot everything.

You are not a winner.
 
"People dancing about really doesn't do a lot for the unemployed in the US." I'm just starting to see just how divided the US is. I mean I thought Pelosi was bad enough, but people forget that the Dems could have passed a stimulus bill for the good of the country but they didn't. And now they want the presidency. Well, I'm guessing they will get it in January, but what they are going to get ....who knows.
 
And there it is ladies and gentlemen...




This is about as close as we've gotten to Trump acknowledging Biden won.

I still am somewhat baffled by how many people truly believe Trump's tweets and overall rhetoric still. The paranoia and distrust and doubt Trump has caused runs thick and it runs deep.
 
Honestly, as I think about that, maybe the paranoia and distrust isn't that surprising, considering how our country was founded to begin with. The roots run deep...
 
Well, mail in voting should have started in July and ended in August and been counted before November (and add the tally after in-person voting had been counted). If you have a Federal election then it should be run by a Federal component of the government. You have to spend the big money to get a legit vote.
 
jpgrdnr said:
Well, mail in voting should have started in July and ended in August and been counted before November (and add the tally after in-person voting had been counted). If you have a Federal election then it should be run by a Federal component of the government. You have to spend the big money to get a legit vote.
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why would they have to end in August when the election is in November? Many, many states had no problem counting their early vote in time. The ones who took forever had their rules changed by Republicans so counting couldn't begin until Election Day or later.
 
I dont know I think it was more the idea that there is a large enough deadline before the election and you have Corona going around. Usually, there are advance polls as well The question is what was voter turn out? 40%? It was higher, but people don't usually vote. Its an opinion lol.
 
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