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Election 2020 The Final Countdown v. Nov. 3rd

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AutoTripper said:
People, this is a very serious time. This entire world and civilisation is under enormous threat like never before in History.

It really is make or break. The world has never been more divided.
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Nonsense lol, can we please stop these narcissistic tendencies where we insist that we live in the most important place and time ever, I see it all the time.
I can name 1900 years in the last 2000 when people were much worse off
 
AutoTripper said:
I'm not trying to reconcile, or win any rhetorical battles.
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i'm just trying to understand your position and discuss the issues you're posting. on a discussion board no less! go figure :)

but you seem to post statements which contradict each other so it can be confusing. perhaps you can see that?

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birdup.snaildown said:
They're not worth less to me. New Zealand is a tiny country with a tiny population relative to China. If the world government was decided per capita, New Zealand would have no say in the election. The world government would be decided according to Chinese values. That's not balanced. It doesn't mean I'm racist, if that's what you're implying. To the contrary, I believe New Zealanders and Chinese people deserve to have some influence over this hypothetical world government... in the same way that Wyoming deserves to have a voice in the federal US election.

With all due respect, you're not thinking this through clearly. I don't believe you really think two countries should decide the world government. That makes no sense. The world government analogy perfectly exemplifies why the electoral college system makes sense as a safeguard against highly populous US states. If you fail to understand that, there's not much else I can say to convince you. I can't explain it to you any clearer.

(I guess you also think the UN should be run on a per capita basis?)
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what happens if you didn't go to electoral college, just some technical or other college?
Are people who aren't electoral college graduates allowed to vote too? asking for a friend
 
Buzz Lightbeer said:
Nonsense lol, can we please stop these narcissistic tendencies where we insist that we live in the most important place and time ever, I see it all the time.
I can name 1900 years in the last 2000 when people were much worse off
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Maybe worse off sure, in numerous ways, but never so close to such a total and massive final genocide. Narcissistic? I refute that. It's purely realistic. The artillery is the unconsciousness of the masses and the concealement of this plot.
 
JGrimez said:
"The bizarre behavior of vote counters in swing states, including PA where they stopped the count altogether overnight, indicates a program to incite national tensions and rage. The media refusing to call certain states for Trump even though he held clear leads while rushing to call states for Biden even though the count was far from unfinished will only exacerbate people's suspicions that the election is being rigged or stolen.

Trump has said he will take the results to the Supreme Court and there is no doubt that recounts will be held in states like Michigan and Arizona. I continue to predict that Trump will stay in office despite the close election. I also predict that numerous fake ballots will be discovered during recounts only throwing gasoline on the fire and implicating Democrats in certain districts with fraud. Social justice leftists will surely try to riot in response, and Trump will call for martial law if the current scenario plays out as I expect.

The leftists will NOT accept the results of a Supreme Court decision in favor of Trump. Conservatives WILL NOT accept a Biden presidency. I think it's clear where this is all headed."
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It's hard to take the fraud claims seriously when you start to look into these claims and find them to be bogus. For example, the claim that there were more votes cast in Wisconsin than registered voters is patently false and easily checked. The source that claims it says there were 3,129,000 registered voters and slightly more votes than that. But Wisconsin's own election commission website says that the number of registered voters is actually 3,684,726. Fail. It did not make an announcement in reply to this claim or something, it always listed that number, but whoever made the fake info post assumed most people wouldn't bother checking, which was true. Yet another reason why you shouldn't believe anything you read on the Internet without fact checking, especially when it's politically motivated. Someone can make a convincing-sounding claim and suddenly half the population believes it to be truth (and yes, of course I realize both sides do this).

The thing I do see is Trump blatantly attempting to suppress votes by trying to stop counting before they're all counted. He also tried to make it so any ballots cast and not received by election day wouldn't be counted, which includes a lot of votes from overseas troops, and which was not what people were told in the first place. Also in Texas, the Repubs tried to disqualify all ballots (over 100 thousand) dropped into certain drop boxes, which had been set up legally and people were told they could use them. THAT is voter suppression. Fortunately, Texas' (conservative) supreme court had the integrity to stop that.
 
JGrimez said:
"The bizarre behavior of vote counters in swing states, including PA where they stopped the count altogether overnight, indicates a program to incite national tensions and rage. The media refusing to call certain states for Trump even though he held clear leads while rushing to call states for Biden even though the count was far from unfinished will only exacerbate people's suspicions that the election is being rigged or stolen.

Trump has said he will take the results to the Supreme Court and there is no doubt that recounts will be held in states like Michigan and Arizona. I continue to predict that Trump will stay in office despite the close election. I also predict that numerous fake ballots will be discovered during recounts only throwing gasoline on the fire and implicating Democrats in certain districts with fraud. Social justice leftists will surely try to riot in response, and Trump will call for martial law if the current scenario plays out as I expect.

The leftists will NOT accept the results of a Supreme Court decision in favor of Trump. Conservatives WILL NOT accept a Biden presidency. I think it's clear where this is all headed."
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Hopefully it will be limited to the cities.
 
Fire&Water said:
Go back to bed America
your Gov't is in control of your life for another 4 years
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OF COURSE. IT ALWAYS IS. AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN. THERE TOO STUPID TO KNOW IT BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY FREE ENOUGH TO VOTE.
THEY CANT EVEN SEE ITS ONE BIG MIND FUCK.
WHY DIDNT THEY LET KANYE IN.

BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL MIND FUCK BRAINWASHED TO BELIEVE THEY REALLY MATTER AT ALL. FUCK YOU SHEEPS.
YOUR SO DUMB. THEY ARE LAUGHING AT YOU NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND LOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSERS. TOO STUPID AND MINDLESS TO EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
SAD.
 
w01fg4ng said:
I thought both of you were American?

Or is it just another case of the "not my President?"
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Everyone's American until stated otherwise, everyone's 18-29 until stated otherwise, everyone's a man until stated otherwise.

Those are the rules. :D
 
Fire&Water said:
Have to be mental to vote for either
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Biden is an idiot, and he is center-right, like most democrats, and as a libertarian socialist, who has no representation, i hate participating and giving my vote to someone I fundamentally disagree with but considering trumps base is literally made up of neo-fascists and he has ordered extra judicial execution of citizens, and sent masked federal agents to kidnap protesters is one step away from detaining any citizen and holding them indefinitely in secret military prisons. Biden got my vote, but only out of utter fear of the right wing, and because with our two party system I had no other choice if I dont want the actual fascists to continue to take over. Its fucked up and politics can't be boiled down to such a dichotomy.
At least biden might *think* he's the good guy, when trump is just the "strong" guy
 
Zephyn said:
Biden is an idiot, and he is center-right, like most democrats, and as a libertarian socialist, who has no representation, i hate participating and giving my vote to someone I fundamentally disagree with but considering trumps base is literally made up of neo-fascists and he has ordered extra judicial execution of citizens, and sent masked federal agents to kidnap protesters is one step away from detaining any citizen and holding them indefinitely in secret military prisons. Biden got my vote, but only out of utter fear of the right wing, and because with our two party system I had no other choice if I dont want the actual fascists to continue to take over. Its fucked up and politics can't be boiled down to such a dichotomy.
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Zephyn said:
Biden is an idiot, and he is center-right, like most democrats, and as a libertarian socialist, who has no representation, i hate participating and giving my vote to someone I fundamentally disagree with but considering trumps base is literally made up of neo-fascists and he has ordered extra judicial execution of citizens, and sent masked federal agents to kidnap protesters is one step away from detaining any citizen and holding them indefinitely in secret military prisons. Biden got my vote, but only out of utter fear of the right wing, and because with our two party system I had no other choice if I dont want the actual fascists to continue to take over. Its fucked up and politics can't be boiled down to such a dichotomy.
At least biden might *think* he's the good guy, when trump is just the "strong" guy
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Just because you can
doesnt mean you should
 
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