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Election 2020 The Final Countdown v. Nov. 3rd

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It's 2020 they can figure out how to do it safely.

Rofl, yes, you're right, they can! And trump refused to do it that way, that's the whole point! :D

Also Biden actually can run the whole country from a bunker, or from a plane. Again cause it's 2020 and we have amazing awesome communications! *

(*unless you're on Comcast)

Let's be real about this, we could totally do it virtually. Trump doesn't want to because he's afraid it will mean they'll be able to stop him interrupting if it's virtual.

ORR, he's seen what happened to the polls after last debate and doesn't wanna make it worse.
 
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Apparently, Trump is capable of turning down an endorsement.

Trump campaign rejects Taliban's endorsement for U.S. president
President Trump's campaign on Saturday firmly rejected the Taliban's endorsement of him ahead of next month's U.S. presidential election.

Driving the news: Taliban spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid told CBS News the militant Afghan group admires the president's "America first" focus and that "Trump might be ridiculous for the rest of the world, but he is sane and wise man for the Taliban."

"We hope he will win the election and wind up U.S. military presence in Afghanistan. When we heard about Trump being COVID-19 positive, we got worried for his health, but seems he is getting better."
— Mujahid to CBS
  • Another senior Taliban member told CBS, "Honestly, Trump was much more honest with us than we thought, even we were stunned with his offer to meet Taliban in Camp David" — in reference to a meeting that the president said he called off after a 2019 bombing in Kabul killed an American soldier and 11 other people.
What they're saying: Trump campaign spokesperson Tim Murtaugh said in an emailed statement, "We reject their support and the Taliban should know that the President will always protect American interests by any means necessary, unlike Joe Biden who opposed taking out Osama bin Laden and Qasem Soleimani."

The big picture: The U.S. reached an agreement with the Taliban in February to begin a gradual drawdown of American troops from Afghanistan. U.S. troops began withdrawing from the country under the peace agreement the following month.

  • National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien said last Wednesday the U.S. would cut its number of troops in Afghanistan to 2,500 by early 2021.
  • Later Wednesday, President Trump tweeted without further elaboration, "We should have the small remaining number of our BRAVE Men and Women serving in Afghanistan home by Christmas!"
The other side: The Biden campaign did not immediately respond to Axios' request for comment on the Trump campaign's claims about the former vice president's stance on bin Laden and Soleimani.

  • However, Biden said in 2012 he told then-President Obama "don’t go" and launch the mission that killed the al-Qaeda leader bin Laden, but later said he should do checks and follow his instincts on the matter, per Politifact.
  • On Soleimani, Biden said last January the leader of the elite Quds force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps "deserved to be brought to justice for his crimes against American troops and thousands of innocents throughout the region." But he added the decision to kill him in a U.S. airstrikein Iraq "is a hugely escalatory move in an already dangerous region."
 
Trump spoke for about 15 minutes on the balcony overlooking the South Lawn to a smaller than expected crowd. Some of them even wore masks.

Trump keeps things brief in first public address since hospitalization

The relatively brief speech touched on all of the main points of Trump’s stump speech — despite the White House insisting it was an official event rather than a political one — with Trump attacking Democrats, running through the latest polling data and recapping his first debate with Democratic nominee Joe Biden and this week’s vice presidential debate.

The speech was tailored slightly to include an emphasis on criminal justice issues, and Trump’s plans to boost Black Americans.

But otherwise, the president mounted his usual attacks against mail-in voting, lauded his administration’s coronavirus response and again teased a “much better” health care plan that he has yet to release.

President Trump invited over two thousand guests to hear him speak just a week after he was hospitalized for Covid-19. Only several hundred attended the president's address on Saturday.

The event on the South Lawn on Saturday was the first since Trump gathered dozens in the Rose Garden two weeks ago to announce his choice of Judge Amy Coney Barrett for the vacancy on the Supreme Court.

Though it’s unclear where Trump contracted coronavirus, at least eight people who attended the announcement have since tested positive, leading the nation’s top infectious diseases expert to decry it as a “super spreader” event. Since the announcement, more White House aides, Trump’s reelection campaign manager and members of the White House press corps also tested positive.

For Trump’s speech on Saturday, guests were only screened for Covid-19 with a temperature check and “brief questionnaire" — but not a test.

At the same time, critical details of Trump’s health remain shrouded in mystery.

His doctors and the White House have declined to reveal when the president’s last negative test was before announcing his diagnosis early last Friday. They have similarly refused to say whether Trump has received a negative test since then, leaving open the possibility that Trump is still contagious, or whether Trump suffered any lung damage as a result of his bout with the respiratory disease.

Even as those questions remain, Trump is set to resume traveling for the campaign, announcing rallies on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday this week as Election Day draws nearer.

In his speech on Saturday Trump appeared healthy, delivering his remarks without coughing or sounding winded. Close-ups of the president taken by press photographers showed bandaging on his right hand, potentially at the spot of insertion of an IV.

After about a quarter of an hour, Trump bid the crowd farewell with a plea for them to get out and vote, thanking them and sending them off with an “I love you” before turning and heading back into the White House without putting his mask back on.
 
Sounds like the start of a media bias thread...if there was such a thing.



Article didn't link the study, and while I find the evaluation of Fox consumers less informed than those who watch no news both humorous and unsurprising, I am curious how consumers of left wing media (CNN, MSNBC) would rank on the same survey. EDIT: found an article talking about the survey, MSNBC and CNN did bad, but still notably better than FOX. They also broke down a bit of radio v television, and where the respondent's political views lie in relation to the sources they listened to.

More from the article, which shows a heavy left lean (anything Trump is vile, anything Clinton is cleared). Interesting in reading it that while it blames the media for giving Trump's candidacy for too much coverage, thereby giving it legitimacy:



But, I read further....



Again, the bias is showing. I should have stopped there, but I didn't. I regret it.

Conservatives view MSM as covering for the left, and lambasting Trump and the right. Progressives view the MSM as ... ? I won't speak for the left, but would like to read the replies. I honestly would like to know.

The article views the MSM as being at fault for giving Trump too much air time, and not enough for Hillary, and now Biden. The heart of the article is that MSM should be exposing how bad a person Trump is, and how great Biden is. THAT is the MSM's job according to this article, along with a return to being unbiased journalists rather than dollar chasing buzz fiends. Somehow, those two priorities aren't going to work out.
Nah the American people are fundamentally stupid. It's the public education system, it's fucked and we're fucked because of it.

All America needed to hear was $2 trillion per year estimate of Trump's budget and watch him squirm and weasel and lie about the price tag.

Hillary needed 0 minutes to win.

People are just really fucking stupid IMO and can't do math.
 
Nah the American people are fundamentally stupid. It's the public education system, it's fucked and we're fucked because of it.

All America needed to hear was $2 trillion per year estimate of Trump's budget and watch him squirm and weasel and lie about the price tag.

Hillary needed 0 minutes to win.

People are just really fucking stupid IMO and can't do math.

Not trying to insult a country but i agree.
 
I almost got in a fistfight with a MAGA hat wearing little bitch of a man trying to check my ID and stop me from dropping off both my and my brother's ballots this afternoon. He quickly backed off once I started taking video of him, but be ready for MAGAt fuckwits trying to intimidate you out of voting, I'd recommend going in a group to drop off ballots. I gave the video to the sheriff's department, so hopefully they'll arrest that cocksucker before he encounters someone easier to intimidate...


Maybe we should start an attempted voter intimidation thread...
 
Maybe we should start an attempted voter intimidation thread
Maybe also a successful voter intimidation thread?

Good on you for holding your ground and showing no signs of intimidation, essentially.

But like, was he going to check who you were actually voting for? By persecution or by taking your ballots off you and checking himself, then handing them back?

Or just plain trying to prevent you from voting fullstop?

Im just thinking aloud here lol, you don't need to respond.

I was under the impression the Trump voters are the primary target.
 
Maybe also a successful voter intimidation thread?

Good on you for holding your ground and showing no signs of intimidation, essentially.

But like, was he going to check who you were actually voting for? By persecution or by taking your ballots off you and checking himself, then handing them back?

Or just plain trying to prevent you from voting fullstop?

Im just thinking aloud here lol, you don't need to respond.

I was under the impression the Trump voters are the primary target.
He was trying to check that I had a valid ID (I do of course) and tried claiming that it was a crime to drop off ballots for anyone but yourself (also absolute bullshit, I can legally drop off up to 6 ballots for immediate family of which my brother is part). He was not, in any way, allowed to do what he was trying to do. He was not a member of law enforcement, an election official, or authorized in any other fashion. He was simply one of the jackoffs that heard Trump say to go to polling places and "observe".
 
He was trying to check that I had a valid ID (I do of course) and tried claiming that it was a crime to drop off ballots for anyone but yourself (also absolute bullshit, I can legally drop off up to 6 ballots for immediate family of which my brother is part). He was not, in any way, allowed to do what he was trying to do. He was not a member of law enforcement, an election official, or authorized in any other fashion. He was simply one of the jackoffs that heard Trump say to go to polling places and "observe".
Thanks for providing that clarity and perspective. Maybe his intentions are not exactly ill hopefully? He maybe was purely checking the true validity of your voting, rather than trying to interfere to intimidate and influence?

I hope so anyway. He may have gathered the impression you are a genuine America citizen, passionately and commitedly voting.

I like to hope so anyway.

But Im a UK male, no excuse, but my whole life I never followed or studied American Politics, so please don't all ridicule me lol if I'm so green about this.

I appreciate your answering me @Anonymous Dissident all best mate from UK.
 
bUt ThE eLeCtOrAl CoLlEgE iS a GoOd ThInG
absolutely! and president trump agrees with you:

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and, because he is such a straight-shooter you can be comfortable knowing exactly where he stands on this issue.

wait. no never mind :(

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alasdair
 
I almost got in a fistfight with a MAGA hat wearing little bitch of a man trying to check my ID and stop me from dropping off both my and my brother's ballots this afternoon. He quickly backed off once I started taking video of him, but be ready for MAGAt fuckwits trying to intimidate you out of voting, I'd recommend going in a group to drop off ballots. I gave the video to the sheriff's department, so hopefully they'll arrest that cocksucker before he encounters someone easier to intimidate...


Maybe we should start an attempted voter intimidation thread...
You can call the cops on those people

you need ID to even get mail in ballots

i would have been like "4 more years, brother!"
 
Yeah, just the type you want to know your personal ID information. I really hope this doesn’t happen again, but I get the feeling the MAGA voting police will be violating the law left and right.
And good on you @Anonymous Dissident for knowing your rights as a voter. Gold Star ⭐!
I haven't missed a presidential election since I became old enough to vote in 2000. I thought the 2000 election would be the most fucked up I'd ever see and participate in but that hope was rudely dashed...
 
absolutely! and president trump agrees with you:

trumptweets02.jpg


and, because he is such a straight-shooter you can be comfortable knowing exactly where he stands on this issue.

wait. no never mind :(

trumptweet01.jpg


912accb5_picard-facepalm.png


alasdair

I wonder if the Dems wouldn't be better off putting all their political might into getting rid of it. Like, literally focus on nothing else (besides covid and national security or whatever) until it gets done.

if they win the senate back that is. Otherwise it'd be pointless.
 
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