The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

[L2R]

where's that lacey k thread which goes to great lengths explaining the difference between the terms "nigga" and "nigger"? seems some of y'all need some lacey k schoolin.

 

[paranoid android]

Lol did I strike a nerve? How many times have you used the word reactionaries in this forum anyways? But either way by all means black community, keep up this new fad of shooting at cops and see how much good change you evoke. People are getting tired of this shit.

No your just boring. And how many times have you used the word radical Liberal on this forum without the slightest idea of what fucking radical or fucking Liberal means or the inherent contradictions in your bullshit? Also people are getting rather tired of Conservatives like you saying "no worries just keep getting done up the arse by the cops it's the way we do things in great Merica"

where's that lacey k thread which goes to great lengths explaining the difference between the terms "nigga" and "nigger"? seems some of y'all need some lacey k schoolin.

Too fuckin right. I miss her posts

 

[nuttynutskin]

Jesus, settle down. As far as I know this section is or is supposed to be open to differing political parties and opinions. And you're a communist for fuck's sake so I don't think you're really one to talk. Besides, if my posts are so boring why do you respond so adamantly to them?

 

[paranoid android]

Besides, if my posts are so boring why do you respond so adamantly to them?

2 reasons. 1 i get bored easy. 2. Telling someone off on the net for holding such stupid views tends to keep down the legal fees cause id fuckin well break someone nose with a headbutt for sprouting such bullshit in public. Though i doubt any judge would convict me there

So don't take it personally

 

[What 23]

I'm pretty sure a judge would hold you accountable there.

 

[Teabag Johnny]

Why can't Communist Bastards & Conservative Teabaggers ever get a long? I don't get it.

 

[Bardeaux]

We can, and do at every family reunion.

Until someone turns racist.

 

[What 23]

So let's say a race really does have an average IQ of 85, and another around 100. I guess it is "racist" to say that it really isn't in the one close to 100's best interest to merge with the one that tests at 85, would you, or another 'liberal' (dont mean to label) say? I'm not saying these numbers are perfect but time after time tests even when things are corrected for and people are tested outside of the US, show that the average is 85 (actually 70 where they came from which is crazy because this is borderline retarded and the people clearly aren't that). And when they mix, the two races, their children generally fall in between on average. Yes I know, AS OF YET, they/we haven't clearly identified any genetic or other reasons that this may occur. They do know that on average the 85 IQ AVG population's brains happen to be smaller, BUT, there are populations with 90-95 AVG IQ with even smaller brains on average so this isn't a valuable measurement quite. And women's brains are smaller but this also doesn't mean they are inferior. Perhaps in ways, generally, but might be superior, generally, in others (better hand-eye coordination for instance, by average, for one).

Anyways, what if? What if one population would literally bring another down in some way? Potentially? What if the blending would lead to, on average, less intelligent (well, how we measure it) offspring?

I am a critic of IQ as a measure of intelligence, myself. I believe intelligence comes in different packages. But East Asians and Jews- Jews who selected highly for intelligence, test highest on this White Man's test. But there are so many excuses for Blacks. Again, not implying anything ultimate. I don't know. But I think a lot of people on both sides don't get it. I've heard some brilliant Blacks speak, myself. This is not to say they aren't intelligent in the "White Man's" way, but on average they aren't as, in that way. Whatever way we can measure, this is found. They didn't have the same selective pressure over millenia that others did. They are different.

But can't you just understand that being "racist" like you all say I am is or it at least stems from a desire to conserve what we are? Don't act like there is no reason to want to preserve some integrity of what you identify with, and, that being 'racist' is just something to shame people over and there is nothing else to it on their end (race realists, racialists, "racists"). That's a bit ignorant.

And, granted though, back to IQ and things, there may be populations from the origin areas- those under the umbrella sample of people where the average IQ is 85, and associated peoples... There might be populations that are over the average of 'Whites'. I don't know. I'm sure not all 'White' populations, countries, etc, have the same averages. I'm sure many reasons may be for this, including socioeconomic factors, epigenetic changes due to generational stresses and things (that could possibly change in time, so 'IQ' and other factors could change in time)... I don't know what.

So I guess... Keep saying "Ni", if you want to. If it makes you feel better. Keeps things easy... For the time being.

TL;DR: What if one population literally is less intelligent for instance than another, or in some other way presents a blight that wouldn't be there with the other otherwise... is not accepting them as one with oneself, if one is part of the "higher"... is it "racist"? Sure. But is it wrong? (What I tried to say, basically).

 

[What 23]

"They're being racist let's stop the discussion and call them a racist, and,..."

You know I'm not even saying I know I'm right. I might be. But I might not be. I may be both and sort of neither. Might not have the whole picture. I'm saying that fear that racists have is totally understandable (even warranted, not that it should stop there), and shouldn't just be labeled "ignorance" or "bigotry", or hate (though, the word racism seems to go hand in hand with hate to most). Frankly I find that ignorant to do. And bigoted the way many handle it.

 

[What 23]

To be fair, the interaction that has occurred in the U.S., and places of certain social diversity, the differences very well may be of this vehicle for social change, that may prove positive for all, ultimately. Blacks aren't the only ones who find wisdom and inspiration in Martin Luther King Jr.'s words, I know. But not just that. It is probably more intricate than I know or am attempting to describe from me. So I try to be open. But I reserve the right to be 'conservative'.

 

[paranoid android]

We can, and do at every family reunion.

Until someone turns racist.

I have gotten drunk and high with many people that are more Conservative minded then i and would lie on the right wing of the spectrum. I do come from a place that was up until fairly recently almost entirely Catholic so of course you are going to get that Conservative element there. Besides it's dialog that creates new ideas. But i do kind of agree with Mill's when it comes to Conservatives to be honest

 

[What 23]

https://www.change.org/p/target-rem...re-ads-and-issue-quvenzhané-wallis-an-apology

 

[What 23]

Just interesting.

http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/interview-with-a-black-race-realist/

11) If you had 5 minutes to address the entire American white
community, what would you tell us?

Stop caring what happens to blacks. Stop adopting black children. Stop sending aid and food to Africa. For the love of God, stop having offspring with blacks. Repatriate every last one of us and never look back.

Full interview

I don't know about her conclusions.

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Here is another, from a very well-educated Black man and race-realist, who married Chinese to basically 'up-breed', as he puts it.

http://www.amren.com/features/2013/11/a-black-mans-path-to-race-realism/

A Black Man’s Path to Race Realism

Excerpt/Preview:
Never in 1,000 years did I imagine that I would end up the person that I am today: a black race realist—someone who believes IQ is normally distributed and that averages may differ among races the same way other genetic variables do. Over the years, I noticed that people are fired up about this or that aspect of evolution, but that the question of genetic differences in race and IQ were off limits. And after many years of painful experience, I gradually went from “Why not?” to “This is the way it is.”

Two things contributed to my conversion to race realism. The first was my training—I have an MS in chemistry—and the second was a lot of life experience...

Would you like to know more?

 

[nuttynutskin]

2 reasons. 1 i get bored easy. 2. Telling someone off on the net for holding such stupid views tends to keep down the legal fees cause id fuckin well break someone nose with a headbutt for sprouting such bullshit in public. Though i doubt any judge would convict me there

So don't take it personally

But no, you're right... You're absolutely above the law just like Michael Brown and all the other turds that died for being dipshits. It all makes sense now.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Just interesting.

http://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/interview-with-a-black-race-realist/

I prefer the blogs that non-sarcastically use the term "headmate" when I look for my daily dose of crazy.

 

[What 23]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/black-brunch-protests-nyc-oakland

Blacks interrupt brunch to tell them #blacklivesmatter

http://newsone.com/3080209/police-protest-nyc-oakland/

 

[What 23]

Don't want to be labeled RACIST? Better pay Al Sharpton.

“Once Sharpton’s on board, he plays the race card all the way through,” said a source who has worked with the Harlem preacher. “He just keeps asking for more and more money.”

http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/how-sharpton-gets-paid-to-not-cry-racism-at-corporations/

 

[What 23]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/s...=1126238400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

NYTimes: Two genes involved in determining the size of the human brain have undergone substantial evolution in the last 60,000 years, researchers say, suggesting that the brain is still undergoing rapid evolution.

The discovery adds further weight to the view that human evolution is still a work in progress, since previous instances of recent genetic change have come to light in genes that defend against disease and confer the ability to digest milk in adulthood.

The new finding, reported by Bruce T. Lahn of the University of Chicago and colleagues in the journal Science, could raise controversy because of the genes' role in determining brain size. New versions of the genes, or alleles, as geneticists call them, appear to have spread because they enhanced the brain's function in some way, the report suggests, and they are more common in some populations than others.

...They report that with microcephalin, a new allele arose about 37,000 years ago, although it could have appeared as early as 60,000 or as late as 14,000 years ago. Some 70 percent or more of people in most European and East Asian populations carry this allele of the gene, as do 100 percent of those in three South American Indian populations, but the allele is much rarer in most sub-Saharan Africans.

With the other gene, ASPM, a new allele emerged some time between 14,100 and 500 years ago, the researchers favoring a mid-way date of 5,800 years. The allele has attained a frequency of about 50 percent in populations of the Middle East and Europe, is less common in East Asia, and found at low frequency in some sub-Saharan Africa peoples.

Related: http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2005/09/stop-presses-huge-papers-on-brain.html?m=1

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[Bardeaux]

Blacks interrupt brunch to tell them #blacklivesmatter

Oh heavens not brunch!

 

[What 23]

It's funny about the only responses people have for me are of this tone. You have no ammo.