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The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

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spacejunk said:
The other "fail" in the meme is that there was no debate taking place.
Just lost whitey spouting off his usual bigoted shit.
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Yes, it was brought up someone lied in their testimony. An older racist who did not see the actual shooting.

I simply pointed out that Michael Brown's friend was found to be lieing as well, amongst many other witnesses who lied.

That's a debate. But instead of addressing any of it you just said?

spacejunk said:
I'm more outraged that racist fucks like you are able to flood this board with your idiotic hate speech.
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No he is right, it is inflammatory. I agree that when people bring up black on white murders in response to this state sanctioned stuff it doesn't sit too well, but you can't ignore that black on white crime is disproportionately higher, today, than white on black. You can't ignore that you will see many stories of what is actually black on white violent crime but race is often not reported, and if you actually did have a white on black man on woman murder it would probably be reported on. If a gang of white people beat down a black couple, raped them, and killed them like has happened recently black on white, you'd hear about how racist white America is and how it needs ta' change and how black lives matter...

Yea there are racial issues here. It doesn't excuse this or your justifying this stuff this way. Its almost more racist for you to act like "well that's expected" when a black guy rapes and kills a white girl or black carjacker shoots a 12 year old for not opening the car. "It's you white people's fault for not giving him a chance. Its your history. Can't you have some feeling for the poor foreign group? You owe them. Its your responsibility to be sensitive to them, and big".

If the actual numbers were shown, you'd have a lot more white people thinking twice about things. Perhaps its a truth that just might do more harm than good in some respects.

Thomas Jefferson was right (funny him, though, considering what he did, that horn dog).
I wish Abe wasn't shot.
 
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LosBlancos said:
Yes, it was brought up someone lied in their testimony. An older racist who did not see the actual shooting.

I simply pointed out that Michael Brown's friend was found to be lieing as well, amongst many other witnesses who lied.

That's a debate. But instead of addressing any of it you just said?
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I wasn't debating you.
That would be like debating a garbage can.
 
spacejunk said:
I wasn't debating you.
That would be like debating a garbage can.
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You can't debate with people who hold such prejudices as it's much like debating with a Schizophrenic except with a person suffering a psychotic episode it's not their fault. The best you can do is to not let such diarrhea ridden bullshit go unchallenged
 
Honestly Blancos has been a lot more cogent than most of you lately. Not that you don't have your moments, or he his. Now all I see are ad hominem attacks, from you, perhaps a way to actually not debate anything.

Heck, maybe it is wrong, in respects, his arguments or what he says sometimes, but you are surely failures here!
 
Tell me what I need to notice. Point it out. Adjust things for me. It might be in a blind spot. And don't just say "racist!", because it doesn't really do the job you wish it to. I'm actually challenged to think that some so called 'racism' or what is part of what is called "racism", isn't 'good' (not that some isn't bad).

But anyways, what do I need to notice?

Should I not notice that I am more likely to get robbed by a black person than a white, in my town? That more black people currently commit violent crimes against whites than vice versa (multiple times higher). Just ignore it? Make excuses? I do that. But there comes a point... Where I just don't think it should be my problem.

Should I not notice how much pressure is on the E.U. countries to accept wave after wave of immigrants from countries far and wide and near? And how people, white people are shamed for wanting to preserve themselves, their culture, their heritage, their race, and not be outbred in their fucking homelands by foreigners. When else has on such a wide scale this happened? Invasions. Colonization. Not to say places haven't existed. Crossroads. And not that I don't see, I guess, how white countries are attractive, or hate anyone for going to them, or blame them. Fuck. I'm in conflict.

You can disassemble this and point out that 'racism' could exist or those behaviors could even among people who identify as white, for each other, or who others think are among the same. That its all rather grey when it gets down to it in ways, I know that. ...
 
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I think people laugh at whites when they say they want to preserve themselves/their way of life, their culture, because 'white culture' has been exported everywhere. It makes it kind of confusing. Its as if 'we' don't even have 'culture' (though, its always been many, many, many, many, and one...) in this world.

When Rome declared itself to be everywhere...
 
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LosBlancos said:
The programs are giving away "free: money. Do we need a specific program for every event? The "Car broke down and have no way to get to work" fund, the "mom is sick in another state and don't have money for airfare" fund, I could go on. But there are government programs for those in need to get help, simple as that. If I start working somewhere my first week I work 40 hours then the next week I'm on 30 hours, logically speaking I wouldn't expect to get 40 hours every week. [/IMG]
All I'm doing is using your own example and explaining how they managed to survive without a minimum wage. You didn't even mention the mittelstand, which is just as important as the wage reimbursement.







As you mentioned your hours were cut, when businesses have to pay people more per hour that's a possible consequence.
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A strong possibility. However, choosing to keep every worker on board instead of axing them while simultaneously subsidizing their lost wages have proven to be an effective system.
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LosBlancos said:
Yes, it was brought up someone lied in their testimony. An older racist who did not see the actual shooting.

I simply pointed out that Michael Brown's friend was found to be lieing as well, amongst many other witnesses who lied.
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Of course if this was a typical grand jury trial, the older racist felon would never have testified.
 
^(This goes for any case, not just hot topic ones) Grand juries are notoriously persuadable. Juries very rarely decide to side with the persecution nor do they often return an indictment against the defendants (As was the case with Wilson and the Garner case).

It's basically saying "not guilty" after hearing one side of the story.
 
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Limbaugh says a lot of things.

LosBlancos said:
You don't like racists? You seem to love Trayvon Martin, to him Mr. Zimmerman was a "creepy ass cracker".
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Cracker.

There. Do you feel insulted? Disrespected? A cracker was the man holding the whip, not the one being ripped to shreds. To call someone a cracker is hardly a sensitive racial slur. Should it be integrated into the common lexicon? Of course not. Is it the same as using other racial slurs? Absolutely not. Let's not pretend it's even close to being the same thing.
 
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