The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

[Escher's Waterfall]

Think I'd piss any Irish off by flying an Orange Organization flag?

 

[nuttynutskin]

The "people" of Ferguson are definitely doing wonders for the black community...

Video: Ferguson protesters attack young white man who wants to go home



Apparently nothing says "justice for Michael Brown" quite like attacking a young white person who simply wants to be left alone to go home. A video posted Saturday to YouTube shows a group of mostly black protesters attacking a young white person who says he just wants to go home.
Black Ferguson protesters attack white man for no apparent reason
Screengrab/YouTube

The video, which can be seen above, begins with one protester enlisting others, telling them a "white boy cocoa face" is in the area. "Come on," the female protester says, encouraging others to join in the attack.

"We gon' beat yo stinkin' head," one protester is heard shouting in a bullhorn. It's unclear from the video exactly who the protester is addressing or why.

"I wanna go home," said a young white man surrounded by angry protesters. "Why are you grabbing me?" the young man asked as he was assaulted by the allegedly "peaceful" protesters.

The reason is simple. Police have been basically told that any effort to enforce the law is essentially racist. Protesters, enabled by so-called "civil rights" leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and groups like the New Black Panthers and communist organizations like the Young Communist League feel they have carte blanche to do whatever they want with zero consequences.

"When is the government going to untie the hands of the police and allow them to stop this?" Jim Hoft asked at the Gateway Pundit. Given that Gov. Jay Nixon -- a Democrat -- has demanded a "vigorous prosecution" of Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Brown, odds are the government will allow this criminal behavior to continue unchecked for some time. Sure, some protesters, like Democratic state Sen. Jamilah Nasheed, have been arrested for failure to obey police orders.

But Nasheed, a rabidly anti-gun Democrat who has sponsored several bills curtailing the right to keep and bear arms, was holding a 9mm handgun when she was arrested. Worse yet, she refused a breathalyzer test after officers determined she reeked of intoxicants. Most people would have faced additional charges under those circumstances, but it seems Nasheed did not.

Ferguson protesters have also threatened violence if Wilson isn't indicted for murder. According to the Federalist Papers, protesters have told police they are prepared to die on the streets if Wilson isn't charged.

“If they can’t serve justice in this, the people have every right to go out and express their rage in a manner that is equal to what we have suffered,” said Ashley Yates, a co-founder of Millennial Activists United. “We’re going to take our anger out on the people who have failed us, and if they are prepared to deal with that, then let them have at it."

http://www.examiner.com/article/vid...s-attack-young-white-man-who-wants-to-go-home

I've gotta admit I'm going to laugh my ass off when another one of these thug's brain matter (if they have any) is in the air because they chose to assault the wrong person. Act like a rabid dog, get put down like a rabid dog.

 

[bit_pattern]

The "people" of Ferguson are definitely doing wonders for the black community...

Because blacks are "people", not people 8)

 

[Droppersneck]

The "people" of Ferguson are definitely doing wonders for the black community...

Video: Ferguson protesters attack young white man who wants to go home

Apparently nothing says "justice for Michael Brown" quite like attacking a young white person who simply wants to be left alone to go home. A video posted Saturday to YouTube shows a group of mostly black protesters attacking a young white person who says he just wants to go home.
Black Ferguson protesters attack white man for no apparent reason
Screengrab/YouTube

The video, which can be seen above, begins with one protester enlisting others, telling them a "white boy cocoa face" is in the area. "Come on," the female protester says, encouraging others to join in the attack.

"We gon' beat yo stinkin' head," one protester is heard shouting in a bullhorn. It's unclear from the video exactly who the protester is addressing or why.

"I wanna go home," said a young white man surrounded by angry protesters. "Why are you grabbing me?" the young man asked as he was assaulted by the allegedly "peaceful" protesters.

The reason is simple. Police have been basically told that any effort to enforce the law is essentially racist. Protesters, enabled by so-called "civil rights" leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and groups like the New Black Panthers and communist organizations like the Young Communist League feel they have carte blanche to do whatever they want with zero consequences.

"When is the government going to untie the hands of the police and allow them to stop this?" Jim Hoft asked at the Gateway Pundit. Given that Gov. Jay Nixon -- a Democrat -- has demanded a "vigorous prosecution" of Darren Wilson, the officer who shot Brown, odds are the government will allow this criminal behavior to continue unchecked for some time. Sure, some protesters, like Democratic state Sen. Jamilah Nasheed, have been arrested for failure to obey police orders.

But Nasheed, a rabidly anti-gun Democrat who has sponsored several bills curtailing the right to keep and bear arms, was holding a 9mm handgun when she was arrested. Worse yet, she refused a breathalyzer test after officers determined she reeked of intoxicants. Most people would have faced additional charges under those circumstances, but it seems Nasheed did not.

Ferguson protesters have also threatened violence if Wilson isn't indicted for murder. According to the Federalist Papers, protesters have told police they are prepared to die on the streets if Wilson isn't charged.

“If they can’t serve justice in this, the people have every right to go out and express their rage in a manner that is equal to what we have suffered,” said Ashley Yates, a co-founder of Millennial Activists United. “We’re going to take our anger out on the people who have failed us, and if they are prepared to deal with that, then let them have at it."

http://www.examiner.com/article/vid...s-attack-young-white-man-who-wants-to-go-home

I have done my due diligence and established that to be a mostly false statement. Though I am sure she is not a fan of the second amendment her sponsored bills were rather tame which is not surprising considering her location.

 

[LosBlancos]

The "people" of Ferguson are definitely doing wonders for the black community...

Video: Ferguson protesters attack young white man who wants to go home



Apparently nothing says "justice for Michael Brown" quite like attacking a young white person who simply wants to be left alone to go home. A video posted Saturday to YouTube shows a group of mostly black protesters attacking a young white person who says he just wants to go home.
Black Ferguson protesters attack white man for no apparent reason
Screengrab/YouTube

The video, which can be seen above, begins with one protester enlisting others, telling them a "white boy cocoa face" is in the area. "Come on," the female protester says, encouraging others to join in the attack.

If only this guy was excercising his second ammendment rights. Then of course we'd have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton giving speeches for the next week if he killed anyone though.

I don't seem to recall any mass looting or rioting following the OJ Simpson verdict. Hmmm...

 

[nuttynutskin]

Because blacks are "people", not people 8)

Some blacks are people like the ones that act like gentlemen/women. Others are well, take your pick.

If only this guy was excercising his second ammendment rights. Then of course we'd have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton giving speeches for the next week if he killed anyone though.

Yup it's only a hate crime if it's white on black. Can you imagine the blind outrage if the races in the video were reversed and this had been a group of white people harassing and assaulting a lone black kid tho? If I lived in Ferguson there's no way I would go out anywhere without concealing with extra clips and wouldn't think twice about shooting anyone threatening my well being.

 

[paranoid android]

Think I'd piss any Irish off by flying an Orange Organization flag?

Well it wouldn't be healthy to fly a Orange Order flag in some places lol . Though these days your far more likely to get laughed at then beat on but it still happens.

Yup it's only a hate crime if it's white on black. Can you imagine the blind outrage if the races in the video were reversed and this had been a group of white people harassing and assaulting a lone black kid tho? If I lived in Ferguson there's no way I would go out anywhere without concealing with extra clips and wouldn't think twice about shooting anyone threatening my well being.

With your fucking personality it wouldn't do for you to walk down Beverly Hills with anything less then a M4 carbine and a Glock 18 never mind in a community with black people.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

Well it wouldn't be healthy to fly a Orange Order flag in some places lol . Though these days your far more likely to get laughed at then beat on but it still happens.

But, but, it's my heritage! Great-great-grandpa was an Orangeman!

 

[nuttynutskin]

With your fucking personality it wouldn't do for you to walk down Beverly Hills with anything less then a M4 carbine and a Glock 18 never mind in a community with black people.

Well where I live blacks make up no more than about .3-.4% of the population in most cities so I don't really have to worry about all the stupid race relations shit. But if I lived certain places their would undoubtedly be areas that I would choose to avoid just because of the likelihood of being fucked with merely for being a white person in the wrong part of town. If I was concealing I would have no problem defending myself, but it's also important as a concealer to do what you can to try to prevent the likelihood of having it come to that if possible. Either way thanks for the meaningful reply, shouldn't you go back to writing your manifesto now?

 

[paranoid android]

But, but, it's my heritage! Great-great-grandpa was an Orangeman!

But but my great great great grandpa would have been a Fenian and would have came over to escape persecution at the hands of the Orange Order only to run into it here. So shouldn't i be able to carry a AR-18 at all times seeing as it's my heritage

Well where I live blacks make up no more than about .3-.4% of the population in most cities so I don't really have to worry about all the stupid race relations shit. But if I lived certain places their would undoubtedly be areas that I would choose to avoid just because of the likelihood of being fucked with merely for being a white person in the wrong part of town. If I was concealing I would have no problem defending myself, but it's also important as a concealer to do what you can to try to prevent the likelihood of having it come to that if possible. Either way thanks for the meaningful reply, shouldn't you go back to writing your manifesto now?

So white people don't commit crimes? Well with your social skills i bet you could manage to get yourself beat up here despite this place being mostly white. And since you can't carry here you would be fucked %)

Shouldn't you be reading your copy of the Unabombers manifesto? Seems like you 2 would get along

 

[LosBlancos]

So white people don't commit crimes?

They do but according to raw data/statistics they do at a far less rate than there African American counterparts. If we are speaking on whites and blacks in general just compare the murder rates or crime rates in Europe vs those in Africa.

The data on white murder rate is also artificially higher due to some Hispanics being classified as white people. Again all available from hard data, all fact.

 

[Droppersneck]

They do but according to raw data/statistics they do at a far less rate than there African American counterparts. If we are speaking on whites and blacks in general just compare the murder rates or crime rates in Europe vs those in Africa.

The data on white murder rate is also artificially higher due to some Hispanics being classified as white people. Again all available from hard data, all fact.

This post maybe a hard truth, but it is not politically correct at all.

 

[Bardeaux]

Its also misleading. If you're going to compare murder statistics by race on top of geographical location, you have to eliminate all other variables. You have to isolate the two groups down to the same socioeconomic stratification, the same cultural and political stability etc. Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges and aren't being intellectually honest.

You cant really compare an affluent region with an impoverished region without making these adjustments. Similarly, I'm willing to wager that poor, uneducated inner city white Europeans engage in much more violent crime than affluent members of african high society.

 

[Droppersneck]

Its also misleading. If you're going to compare murder statistics by race on top of geographical location, you have to eliminate all other variables. You have to isolate the two groups down to the same socioeconomic stratification, the same cultural and political stability etc. Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges and aren't being intellectually honest.

You cant really compare an affluent region with an impoverished region without making these adjustments. Similarly, I'm willing to wager that poor, uneducated inner city white Europeans engage in much more violent crime than affluent members of african high society.

Okay I have a really hard non PC question for you. Why In your opinion is such a resource rich country such as Africa still socioeconomically weak and war torn as compared to countries with far less resources? Disregarding slavery as that was a joint endeavor and it was so long ago/ many other now affluent countries have overcome just as much.

 

[nuttynutskin]

So white people don't commit crimes?

Did I ever say that?

Well with your social skills i bet you could manage to get yourself beat up here despite this place being mostly white. And since you can't carry here you would be fucked %)

What social skills? I don't go around talking to strangers. Why would I get beat up?

Shouldn't you be reading your copy of the Unabombers manifesto? Seems like you 2 would get along

Why? You're the one on here seemingly condoning terrorist acts and violence against the police even if they're not guilty. The only thing I've said is that I would legally defend myself against criminals if I had to. Try again.

 

[Bardeaux]

The global slave trade may have ended hundreds of years ago, but the exploitation of labor and resources hasn't. The reasons resource rich regions like much of Africa, Latin america, the middle east and parts of Asia have remained impoverished and in constant conflict are multidimensional. Africa, for example was almost entirely colonized by foreign powers for hundreds of years. More recently, following world war II, arbitrary border divisions weren't drawn by Africans themselves, but by the victorious European nations. Conflicts like those in Rwanda, Sudan, congo etc were inadvertently designed by these arbitrary divisions. When cultures and resources are divided, conflicts emerge and its extremely difficult to remedy after 50 years.

Even today, Europe, China and the US are competing for these resources and influence at the expense of the local populations.

Also, like I've said before, I don't believe in "political correctness". Politics are subjective constructs. Not being as asshole has very little to so with politics and has more to do with common courtesy.

Ps- Africa is not a country

 

[LosBlancos]

Its also misleading. If you're going to compare murder statistics by race on top of geographical location, you have to eliminate all other variables. You have to isolate the two groups down to the same socioeconomic stratification, the same cultural and political stability etc. Otherwise you're comparing apples to oranges and aren't being intellectually honest.

You cant really compare an affluent region with an impoverished region without making these adjustments. Similarly, I'm willing to wager that poor, uneducated inner city white Europeans engage in much more violent crime than affluent members of african high society.

Here's some data for you:

Speaking of other countreies, the richest African nations of Nigeria and South Africa have significantly higher GDP per capita and much much higher than the poorest European countries of Serbia or Bosnia. Poverty doesn't directly cause crime by any means. At one point the poorest in America were recent Asian immigrants who come to work on railroads and they accounted for almost no crime.

I know to explain the situation you love words but words can be conflated and used to justify almost anything. I'll keep it short and pithy, stick to raw data and numbers, correlations. These are the raw data. If you have data showing that White Americans and African-Americans of the same socioeconomic class have the same homicide rates by all means post it.

 

[Bardeaux]

I'm not on a computer so I'm just going to assume you're correct. Firstly, GDP per capita tells us nothing about wealth distribution. Its an average. The GDP divided by every citizen garners us a per capita measurement. Now, how much of this GDP do black South Africans control vs white South Africans?

Also, I wouldn't hold up Bosnia and Serbia as examples of poor white people not slaughtering each other. This is why i also mentioned political and cultural stability. As the same problems seen in the former Yugoslavia can also be seen in Africa.

Poverty doesn't directly cause crime by any means.

Its also not what I said. It certainly can be a variable though, wouldn't you agree?

I

know to explain the situation you love words but words can be conflated and used to justify almost anything. I'll keep it short and pithy, stick to raw data and numbers, correlations. These are the raw data.

the problem here is that raw data needs context. You cant make sweeping generalizations without taking into account the determinants that contribute to the data. The only factor you're willing to integrate into this analysis is racial demographics . Which isn't only lazy research, but extremely non-scientific.

 

[LosBlancos]

I
the problem here is that raw data needs context. You cant make sweeping generalizations without taking into account the determinants that contribute to the data. The only factor you're willing to integrate into this analysis is racial demographics . Which isn't only lazy research, but extremely non-scientific.

Not just racial demographics those graphs show unemployment and poverty used as factors and they were found to not be significantly correlated to homicide rate for American cities.

Serbia and Bosnia I was obviously talking about now or even in years following the war, they have been amongst poorest countries of Europe but haven't had homocide rates anywhere near those of Europe.

If you want to look at this another way I bet the crime rates amongst NFL players earning millions is much higher than poor white people in America. Financial circumstances doesn't explain this. I guess according to you though their are just so many factors that it's hard to extrapolate all of this and explain why this difference exists.

 

[Bardeaux]

Well, let me ask you for an explanation, then we can discuss that in depth once my computer arrives.

Are black people of all ethnic and cultural backgrounds simply genetically predisposed to violence and crime, regardless of every other factor that we tend to associate with the causation of the behavior? Black just equals violent and white just equals peaceful?