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The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

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The militarisation of the american police is no joke. Dress a man as a soldier and he will act like a soldier.. Everyone not in uniform will begin to look like enemies.
 
What 23 said:
I didn't claim it doesn't happen.
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Right. So what's your point exactly? Unarmed, young, black men get murdered all the time in America - in one striking example a young man was murdered for allegedly picking up a plastic rifle in a Wal-Mart - a department store where young, white men can openly carry very real, high calibre assault rifles without any consequence. Once again, you communication is quite clear - you seek to downplay a glaring disparity between how various races are treated in America in an attempt to deny the obvious fact at the heart of the matter in the riots currently engulfing St Louis. Young, black me are walking targets. They face the very real possibility to be gunned down for no reason. This makes a lot of people justifiably pissed off when it happens in their neighbourhood. When a predominantly white, paramilitary police force treat predominantly black neighbourhoods like occupied territories and murder unarmed locals. By denying the glaringly obvious social structure problems it allows you to blame black people for being black and justify gross miscarriages of justice. All of which fits perfectly with the hateful, white nationalist agenda you push on this forum day after day - hell, I've seen you quite seriously say that the Stormfront nazis make good arguments - it is just another piece in the mosaic of hate that makes up the personality you project here. The cherry on top of that shit sundae is the way that you have actually explicitly stated your desire to murder fellow BLers who happen to voice opinions that you disagree with. You're a deeply disturbed, little individual.
 
rickolasnice said:
It begins.

The militarisation of the american police is no joke. Dress a man as a soldier and he will act like a soldier.. Everyone not in uniform will begin to look like enemies.
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America is no longer being policed, it's being occupied.
 
Most of what I say about stormfront is that I don't like it there. The most I might have said like you paint here is that I can understand some of them, or where they come from.

The kid in Troy Ohio was asked to put the toy gun down and for some reason he didn't, allegedly. Details are still to be released on that case. I'd have to see videos.

The guy in MO had an altercation with the police officer. Allegedly, he fought over his weapon. A shot went off in the vehicle. I'm not saying I know what happened in either of these instances... But I'm telling you, you don't either. And you're leaving these allegations out, for what? To suit your own agenda here? Are these details not important?
 
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If young, white men were being murdered on the scale that young, black men are I guarantee you'd be outraged. But, hey, we all know you see non-white people as inferior so you comfortable, fat and happy, eating Doritos in you parents basement - the master race!
 
I haven't touched doritos in about 10 years at the very least.

I ate hemp seeds almost exclusively for about 2 years. I ate nothing but avocados and strawberries for a few months.

I haven't lived at home (at parents... I guess its still "home") in about 8 years.

Whites are still murdered by blacks at a much higher rate than blacks are by whites. White women are raped by black men at a much higher rate by black men than black women are by white men. Lynchings were about 4,000 in 70 or so years. Black Africans killed white settlers, about 75,000 of them, in 14. I'm outraged.
 
What 23 said:
I haven't touched doritos in about 10 years at the very least.

I ate hemp seeds almost exclusively for about 2 years. I ate nothing but avocados and strawberries for a few months.

I haven't lived at home (at parents... I guess its still "home") in about 8 years.
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Yet you're still too morbidly obese to go and live out your murder fantasies?

Whites are still murdered by blacks at a much higher rate than blacks are by whites. White women are raped by black men at a much higher rate by black men than black women are by white men. Lynchings were about 4,000 in 70 or so years. Black Africans killed white settlers, about 75,000 of them, in 14. I'm outraged.
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Junk statistics. Source or STFU. Black men are murdered by police at wildly disproportionate rates than white men - or course, they don't end up in any murder stats though - and the structural issues as to why is also supported in the social science literature

http://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/ps/racialbias.pdf

Institutional racism of the sort hateful scum like you express here every day.
 
Go ahead. Ignore it, just like you ignore details of the stories of the two black guys that got shot.

Once again, if thinking I am morbidly obese helps you...
 
He's never been too sharp on the uptake has our, poor, ignorant, little hatemonger
 
It strikes me as ironic that LulWut23 is very keen on people sharing a cultural affinity when it involves he and other whites maintaining dominance in society but not so much when two Australian's who share similar cultural outlooks threaten his own backwoods worldview.

Anyway, back OT, some shit never changes

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Just about every reported murder in my city is by a black. This isn't a stereotype. Its a fact. It would be a stereotype if I said that these two blacks were guilty, or that all blacks are automatically guilty because of these reports. If you will take notice, I have made no such claim. I've simply said that there are more details than you or anyone else presented here, and that people might need to slow their roll a little.

The kid fought with a cop, according to reports. You don't do that. Especially if you're black (I'm not saying this out of some racial bias, but because it is reality that cops are generally more on edge around blacks). I do find it sad for them, and their family, and black people in general, but I'm not going to ignore that he may have done something or not helped the situation, and I'm not going to ignore the little detail in the case in Troy Ohio where allegedly cops told him to put the weapon down and for some reason (why???) he didn't comply. I still don't understand why he was shot, unless he pointed the 'weapon' at police or something, which I can't see happening.

As for the civil rights comparisons, just to bring this up again, MULTIPLE stores were looted and burnt down/attempted to be burnt down. At least one of those had people inside while it started to burn. Yes, these fucks probably capitalized off of this situation and one shouldn't blame all blacks for what few do. But I doubt they caught all the people. I can totally get why cops are on edge. One of the demands that these people are making is for the release of the cops name. Tell me, not knowing exactly what happened and what went through the minds at that time, do you think this is a good idea? What exactly are you expecting? No police presence?
 
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What23 can you actually back up anything you are claiming stats wise with an actual legit source? Cause this is just getting embarrassing.
 
Nortika said:
What23 can you actually back up anything you are claiming stats wise with an actual legit source? Cause this is just getting embarrassing.
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http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...n-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43#disablemobile

"The percentages of white adults and black adults arrested for murder were similar, with 48.2 percent being white, and 49.4 percent being black."

consider for the above, blacks in 2010 were less than 13% of the population and whites were around 72% (U.S.). the above linked FBI reports are from 2011.

race on race statistics I will have to look over it. the source I have for this is American Renaissance, which is often considered a white supremacist publication. however, the only criticism I saw made about their interpretations of statistics was that they didn't consider the difference to be caused just by socioeconomic status, but by biology. despite this criticism, which I consider warranted, the interpretation of the data itself isn't, as far as I am aware, in dispute, by the Southern Law Poverty Center- the critical body cited.
 
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spacejunk said:
Looks like phallic insecurity to me.
Either way, nice police state you guys got there. Land of the free, home of the private prison - yeah?
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Is this a fucking joke? "Police state"? There was just a picture of people carrying high powered assault rifles through WalMart. Not like that ever actually fucking happens around here, there's probably 100 total people who are bold and idiotic enough to walk around with a fully loaded assault rifle in a peaceful city.


How is this different from Athens, London or the entirety of the Ukraine right now? I'd MUCH rather face the American justice system than most other countries. The only exception to that would be drug cases, even then we're still better than the majority of countries. People take any instance they can to bash America but there is really not much difference here than ANYWHERE else in the world... other than us seemingly throwing away endless amounts of money at any problem we come up with.

America has the same kind of people as everyone else... we have those that are protesting for TRUE change, and the opportunists who use the chaos to their advantage. This is no different from any other protest or war zone, one look at the Ukraine and it would seem that detaining journalists is going to be the norm in a few years.
 
^ There was also a man who was just murdered by Police for carrying around a toy gun...

I don't see how the ability of some citizens to brandish assault weapons in public is an indication that you are not living in a Police State, what good will your assault weapons do when the Police and Government are in APC's, how long do you think it will be before they are using tanks, shit, I would not be surprised if some Police departments have those already...

It seems a bit ridiculous to suggest that because journalists are being detained in the Ukraine there is nothing wrong or particularly bad about journalists being detained by the police in the United States for doing their jobs.

You can enjoy your justice system with its mandatory minimums all you like, personally, I think most Western democracies have a better justice system than you guys do, obviously that is a matter of opinion and there are more informed people out there than myself. The fact you guys have 5% of the worlds actual population and 25% of its prison population would suggest to me that you're justice system is less than fair.
 
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