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The Feeling of being One

It's like you're saying because everyone dosen't have the same mindset as you, they're wrong. What the fuck makes your take on an experience the right one?
 
NeuroDr said:
At first ur post seemed condescending and immature, but I think this is what u were talking about. Just phrased a little dickish :) lol

EDIT: And also, after reading ur looong post I completely agree, as I know many ppl here do, that things are changing now, pretty quickly. Yes, the old, and for the most part, last strong remnants of the old societal thinking and (mis)understanding, are probably going to be gone soon. When that happens I expect even quicker changes, but ur talking about a very radical shift, much more so than I think is possible to occur in any relatively short (our lifetime) time frame. A complete restructuring of society is going to take a long time, and I am quite hopeful for the changes I expect to see in my own lifetime. I don't regret not being born to grow up in the 60s as I used to, I think we will see a more sustained shift in personal thought and a greater compassion for the unity of the human {can't think of the right word here, consciousness?}. I hope for the best and am happy with any change. If we can do it, then that's some serious progress since just 50 years ago
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I'm sorry everyone too that sometimes I get quite baked when I'm on here so I'm sure i'm overzealous and such. But really just think. My tone of voice is truth, not supposed to be too dickish. And if some readers view it as that, then you need to take a look inside yourself and realign..

Thanks for reading it actually Neuro. As darwinian evolution dissipates, the radical evolution of the human consciousness creates. Only we can be the ones to mold it. And if we sit back and passively observe as the men in power shape us through their methods, instead of trying to return to uncover truth in this grey time in history, we'll just be subjecting ourselves to the same slavery we've had to endure over the last thousands and thousands of years.

It really doesn't make me an angry person knowing all this. I am an extremely positive person all the time. I meditate constantly.

HERE IS A BUNCH OF VIDEOS FOR YOU TO WATCH:

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=8339

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=26320

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=26130

KIND OF A LIL HISTORY LESSON
 
sharpy* said:
It's like you're saying because everyone dosen't have the same mindset as you, they're wrong. What the fuck makes your take on an experience the right one?
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An experience is different to each person, yet what is there is the same. When you meet people who share part of your view on reality, you become friends, and then feed off of eachother's thoughts/energies until all is said and you are one.

I never said any mindset was the right one. Ever. I never form a mindset. I just focus on what's really there. I abandoned my false reality years ago..

You have to be able to look beyond yourself to see truth. And truth is all-encompassing. But underneath all of the names we put on what we experience, we're all actually feeling the same exact things. Some people make choices that negatively effect those around them, some shine light..

Everyone know that our world we live in needs to change. Ok So stop clinging to what you know and stop being afraid of the unknown/different. You all have to capability to do ANYTHING you want to. So many of us hold ourselves back because of the self-doubt imposed by this fucked up society. Even the educational system suppresses so many people's genius. It's terrible.

So hey. If you guys want to live the rest of YOUR lives in this dimension in mental slavery then you just go along with what you're told.

I would have thought a board about drugs would have more open minded thinkers. Bluelight seems to be the worst of all of them in terms of free thought/brainwashing. I mean honestly lol, people who use this thing a lot all end up communicating like each other. Sometimes if I'm baked i'll think two of the posters were the same person haha.

To all those who actually can think. I LOVE YOU. WE CAN DO IT. LETS STAY HAPPY.
 
"we have a rule. we don't free a mind once it reaches a certain age. it's dangerous, and the mind has trouble letting go"

peace and love :)
 
ColinGibs said:
If like 60% of the people that respond to my posts just end up derailing them because they can grasp more than one concept at one time it's hard not to respond sounding like a dick sometimes
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No it's not.

Look, man, you're insightful and shit. It's clearly obvious. You can see cancer in Western society and a lot of people just don't understand how deep it goes. But in all seriousness, you respond more defensively and antagonistically than just about anyone else on this board most of the time. It often sounds like you get genuinely upset over nothing, and sometimes it seems like you're deliberately pissing people off because you think it'll get your point across.

This is a forum on the internet. The only thing I know about you is that you chose the name "ColinGibs" to represent yourself, aside from that you could be literally anyone. It seems to me like you're trying to prove something about yourself, though. You talk about how you're "an extremely positive person all the time" who "meditates constantly" ... so what? Is that supposed to back your ideas up? The only thing it does is make it clear to us that you think you've got something to prove, and that you take it personally when we disagree with you, or even misunderstand you.

Look, we know you're smart. You've gotta be or else you wouldn't say half the shit you say. But the other half of what you say tells us that you take it personally when people don't agree with you or don't understand you, and that's a sure sign of someone who has a LONG way to go before they fully understand the kind of ideals that you're promoting. You talk about open-mindedness, mental liberation, love ... but you insult and belittle the people who don't immediately support your points. How loving and open-minded is that? I know you've got a mission, and I agree with it ... I want the human race to evolve as much as you do, and I care about pushing it in that direction too. But lay off the attacks. You don't have any enemies here unless YOU make them.
 
pans-advocate said:
no it's not.

Look, man, you're insightful and shit. It's clearly obvious. You can see cancer in western society and a lot of people just don't understand how deep it goes. But in all seriousness, you respond more defensively and antagonistically than just about anyone else on this board most of the time. It often sounds like you get genuinely upset over nothing, and sometimes it seems like you're deliberately pissing people off because you think it'll get your point across.

This is a forum on the internet. The only thing i know about you is that you chose the name "colingibs" to represent yourself, aside from that you could be literally anyone. It seems to me like you're trying to prove something about yourself, though. You talk about how you're "an extremely positive person all the time" who "meditates constantly" ... So what? Is that supposed to back your ideas up? The only thing it does is make it clear to us that you think you've got something to prove, and that you take it personally when we disagree with you, or even misunderstand you.

Look, we know you're smart. You've gotta be or else you wouldn't say half the shit you say. But the other half of what you say tells us that you take it personally when people don't agree with you or don't understand you, and that's a sure sign of someone who has a long way to go before they fully understand the kind of ideals that you're promoting. You talk about open-mindedness, mental liberation, love ... But you insult and belittle the people who don't immediately support your points. How loving and open-minded is that? I know you've got a mission, and i agree with it ... I want the human race to evolve as much as you do, and i care about pushing it in that direction too. But lay off the attacks. You don't have any enemies here unless you make them.
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How was I condescending?? If I was, it was my error in the written language. But all I see is Roger&me gettting (offended maybe) by a pretty accurate label that wasn't derogatory in any way
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Colin, I agree with alot of what you have to say. And I disagree alot too. I'm reading your posts a lot like I would a text on Discordianism: A lot of truth purposely mixed in with a lot of nonsense, leaving it up to the reader to think for themselves and take what they want. I suspect you may even purposely be doing this, as a sort of test.

I don't say you sound condescending as an error of written language. It's just the whole atmosphere of what you're writing. A lot of you write in the other forums as well. The underlying subtext and implications in your statements and how you are responding to people who are questioning and/or evaluating your words. But I think your intent is in the right place, and that is what counts. Preach on brutha.
 
ColinGibs said:
Dude think before you speak.

You said in your previous posts, you would not have seen those things, or felt them without the use of the drugs. You needed a drug to make oneness feel real to you?

Everyone is the same, but programmed differently. No doubt the trip helped you get in touch with things when you weren't before, which is good. All I said previously was that it shouldn't be dependent on the experience. The same exact things exist without. It's science, religion, philosophy, sex, whatever.

We are all the same. But so many of you hide who you are because of the way you were raised. Quite a bit of "civilization" have no been able to open their eyes fully yet, they don't have the adequate mental strength or tools, which sometimes is a result of society in the first place.

Look at neurodocs post that should help you.
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While I do agree with your first post a little bit about people abusing psychs just to get a high and then not integrating them into daily life, it takes a truely traumatic event most times to get the conscious shift like psychadelia provide. With how ingrained social norms are for people every single day thinking outside the box comes at a high price normally because people are rarely, if ever, exposed to the different points of view.

Judgin others based off an internet post and pretending you know them on a deeper level than a few words is not the best tactic. So to say Nearjat doesnt have the life experience to see things in new ways was a ridiculous statement. I wouldnt even kid myself into thinking I could tell anything about you or anyone on this board by these posts and you would be a fool to udge the same about me.
 
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Colin, sorry about my first post, it was extremely vague and not really accurate in describing my personal experiences. I think I was somewhat generalizing to fit more peoples experiences.

All I can say is it's great to be able to write and pour your heart out about Oneness, love, and the universe. But we humans are social animals, and without kind speech and patience, no work will ever get done.

It takes intellect to grasp many of these things, but it takes personal discipline to LIVE them. As I type this I'm realizing how hard it is to recreate a "soft voice" over the internet so I can somewhat empathize with you, apologies.
 
I've read everything in this thread and it kind of reminds me of my spiritual journey. When I first unlocked knowledge and "knew things that others didnt know YET" I almost felt ABOVE them and powerful but that was cut down immediately when I understood that only the worthy are granted knowledge. Only those who have learned to not abuse power and incorporate knowledge for the betterment of self and humanity will receive "the light". It's difficult sometimes to hang with/deal with people who arent on the same vibration as you but that doesnt discredit them. I use to change who I was just to please everyone and fit in... now I see that by being myself and spreading love and light it actually liberates others. So Colin, I can see where your coming from and I can also see where everyone else is coming from... you did come off a bit "egoic" and defensive... but its ok. Just realize this, true universal knowledge and wisdom is defined by someone who can fully understand and admit that they dont know a fuckin thing :) peace.
 
I've done many psychedelic drugs, and the only one that really truly made me feel one with everything thus far is 5-meo-dmt. It was definately a oneness so I think there is some use in the phrase/feeling, but it isn't to be used openly.
Most likely people are just trying to describe the psychedelic feeling in general...
 
Some of the things you say are true but your sense of superiority and aggressiveness is quite irritating. I know you said you don't think your superior to others but it comes through in some of your statements in this thread.

I agree that we live in an imperfect society that has many negative effects on us. All you can really do is try to control your own life and experience the good that society and life have to offer and try to avoid or eliminate the negative elements.

You say that everyone is the same which is quite a vague statement. My interpretation of that is that everyone is human with the same basic instincts and drives and we are all searching for the same thing: happiness. So why be so negative towards others even if they don't think the same way as you? I know it can be hard not to get frustrated with people but try being more understanding that everyone has to find their own way to happiness.

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It is not false, that if you use psychs for party purposes or solely to get "fucked up", or you rely on them as your "spiritual guides" in any way, it has an adverse affect on your ability to have new thought in the future. This is hugely documented. It's why the drugs are illegal.
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How is this "hugely" documented?

I believe psychs can give you insights and make you realize things with a force and vivacity that may not occur in normal waking life. That said, the real work must be done after the experience has run its course when you can go back and analyze and integrate what you think you learned with a clear head.

This is especially true when you think you have new spiritual insights. You must make sure that they are epistemologically sound conclusions. This, IMO, is what is seriously lacking in many psych users today.

It doesn't really bother me because if believing outlandish and speculative things increases your quality of life that is fine with me, but I know that I am not content or even capable of thinking this way. I cannot consent to the belief in something until I feel I have sound reasons for doing so.
 
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I am young. I love the world I live in yet for some reason I am confused every day and I dont know why. I believe we the people have shackled our minds and have created a world that will get us nowhere except doom in the future. I think you find innerself just based on expierience, not just because your get older and "smarter." maybe everyone has the same capabillities of the brain, its just wether somone can unlock it or not based on expierience of their life or just what they see in the world. sometimes when i do a drug with a friend, i get depressed that they dont see things like I do, or think im just some crazy hippie and they dont even bother trying to listen what I say. I truly believe that the weak minded will think they are better than somone and judge people just because they have opposing views, maybe this is why we have wars on different views of religion and beliefs. I am proud in myself because now when somone says a story or a thought, even though it may sound extremely stupid, I listen and try to understand the person as much as possible, without judging them for what they are saying. I think if everyone tried taking steps to thinking like this, the world would be a better place but I dont think it will ever happen enough to change society. Without drugs i think i would still be that ignorant kid, just brainwashed by society, but I know now that I am taking steps towards the right direction. I like to take drugs because I feel they help my mind getting into boundaries it couldnt get to alone, but now I have realized you dont need drugs to get there, you just need a strong mental and spirital capability. I still think drugs paved the way into this thinking for me, so I can thank them 100% for who I am now. I am excited to live and have some crazy expieriencs in my life that I hope teach me some awesome shit that i really cant even contemplate now. Hopefully one day when I am old I will feel the sense of mental accomplishment of some sort, I feel it would make death be more peaceful. I remember reading in "Nature" by Emmerson ( i think ) that when you die, it should feel like a long well deserved rest. I hope its like that for me and im striving my hardest to make it like that.
 
Hello ColinGibs,
I believe what you are touching on is a certain conscious that all humans can reach in life, something I am not full grasping yet myself because the idea is so new to me, and unlike I've ever been taught. What I speak of is much larger than introspective drug trips, and again, is a conscious that really is impossible explain using written language, but anyways... Your posts really intrigued me, I believe you may be touching on what I speak of, so with that being said
I have to ask you if you've ever heard eyedea & abilities, if not I highly recommend you listen to these two songs in order..
1.The Dive- eyedea & abilities
2.Bonus Track # 1
If anything resonates with you upon listening to this, I'd really like to hear your input.
catch ya on the flipside...
 
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