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The EADD Metathread - "HR approach to dangerous drugs" branch
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mydrugbuddy
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Its not PC, its just unrealistic. This is just going round in circles now, but as Knock said "Just say No" was a joke amongs kids even at the time it first came out. I know that because i was at school when that campaign was launched. It just doesnt work, the money spent on drugs makes up a huge part of what goes on in the economy. By and large people know the risks they are taking when they take drugs, and people come here to ask how to take them safely as they have allready decided they want to take them. If they just get told "just say no" rather than advice on safest possible practice then that person has been let down and wont have all the facts at their disposal that they should have.
In fact some members have been quite vocal in voicing the "just say no" thing to me about bupe. As Dan said ultimately its up to the person, but each of us has a responsibilty to speak up whenever they see something potentially dangerous occurring.
RLP
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I think the fuss is we could be doing the first part of that better.
HR and the liberty to make your own decisions aren't mutually exclusive. If anything I think the former helps the latter. (This is a general point, not directed at you Dan)
knock
Bluelighter
Maybe it's time for a poll!
Not sure what the poll would be though.
Maybe it's not time for a poll.
Not sure what the poll would be though.
Maybe it's not time for a poll.
Sammy G
Ex-Bluelighter
RLP
Bluelighter
Poll:
Do you like the squirrels?
Y/n?
Do you like the squirrels?
Y/n?
knock
Bluelighter
No, definitely not time for a poll 
ColtDan
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Yeah i understand
Maybe give some people the status title of "risk advisors", like mod status or something, bold name and point out risky combos if they notice them. pretty effortless, it will stand out, and hopefully not be too patronizing. other than that, most of us know the risks from what ive observed
Maybe give some people the status title of "risk advisors", like mod status or something, bold name and point out risky combos if they notice them. pretty effortless, it will stand out, and hopefully not be too patronizing. other than that, most of us know the risks from what ive observed
knock
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No, everyone is meant to do that!
This is the thing about information. It can from anyone. It is believable if it's backed up by sources. So it's incumbent on everyone, if they want to be involved in this HR forum thing, to be researchers. Just a few minutes every day!
OK not everyone has to do it. But those who feel able to, and inclined to, should. And by and large, they do! So to me, there ain't a problem. The problem, IMO, is people reacting to things that can't be helped, like people dying, or people doing "dangerous" drugs, by disappearing.
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ColtDan
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Lets face it, its mixing downers which is the main killer. a lolt of people realize that. we shouldnt have to point that out every time we spot it. stick it at the bottom of the page in red or something. thats the only concerning thing ive seen on here. stupidly high valium useage mixed with stupidly high opiate. the other thing is people going for a week on MDPV
knock
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We could have a "drug HR basics" thread as a sticky. It would have to be at the top of the page, though, Dan, I'm afraid :D
I quite like it though. It could even say "the most effective way of reducing drug harm is not to take drugs".
I quite like it though. It could even say "the most effective way of reducing drug harm is not to take drugs".
knock
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OK, so we have one very straightforward and reasonable proposal :D
Shambles
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I think there's always a place for reminding people of the basic absolutes of things: of course the safest possible drug experience is the one you don't have. But people will still want their drug experiences all the same. Trying to help people find the safest possible ways of having those experiences for each individual case is a big - frankly an impossibly big - ask but it makes sense to have a broad range of experience and opinions put forward and for nobody to feel they can't express their own. It's not right or wrong or black and white and each case really is different and there are more things to take into account then anybody can reasonably expect from a public forum of... whoever happens to post on there at that time. No matter how good the varying suggestions may be it's ultimately an individual's sole decision and ultimately their own responsibility. Nobody can make somebody do or not do a thing in a situation like this but good, honest - and obviously ideally well-thought out and worded - advice can be lifesaving but people - especially passing people - need (and deserve) to have some thought put in before making flippant or obtuse comments where somebody most likely has no clue about "the way EADD works".
The proposal of splitting EADD into social and drug subforums has been raised a number of times as a possible way to help keep a bit of distance and separation between the more community aspects and the "proper HR" stuff. I've always argued strongly against that in the past - and have no idea if it's been suggested any time recently anyway - but I can see that there could be reasonable arguments to be made for keeping the "business" and "pleasure" side of things a bit more clearly delineated. Have no particular suggestions yet but am open-minded on the matter.
The proposal of splitting EADD into social and drug subforums has been raised a number of times as a possible way to help keep a bit of distance and separation between the more community aspects and the "proper HR" stuff. I've always argued strongly against that in the past - and have no idea if it's been suggested any time recently anyway - but I can see that there could be reasonable arguments to be made for keeping the "business" and "pleasure" side of things a bit more clearly delineated. Have no particular suggestions yet but am open-minded on the matter.
You think voters would be split down the middle or summat?No, definitely not time for a poll
Yer jestin' ... t'would be a total LANDSLIDE ... seriously, now's the time, knock.
Yesterday I was all, 'fuck the BLUA', but if it means getting to take orders from The Squirrel, today I'm totally up for 100% stringent reenforcement of the rules.
knock
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It's not come up, that I'm aware of. Not sure how that would work either. Where would the "I'm fucked" thread go? is it a business (HR) thread, or is it a pleasure thread? Would it not be OK to pass on HR information in the Fucked thread, if it was in the pleasure forum? What are the reasonable arguments for such a "split"?
knock
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RLP
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There is groundswell on this. 100% increase in RLPMOD membership in 24 hours. You can't quell the uprising if it continues at this speed, it'd be as relentless like the American Revolution, Arab Spring or Nigel Farage's UKIP.
Let's do this.
