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The EADD Linux Technical Gibberings Thread

I just saw I can't use Waydroid anyway because it's not available for my Linux. And I have Nvidia, but never installed the drivers for it because so far I didn't need to.

I guess I will have to either continue to.play on my phone even if its too small for some games, or invest in a new battery for my tablet.
 
lecroute said:
I just saw I can't use Waydroid anyway because it's not available for my Linux.
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It isn't packaged. Nothing is stopping you from building it from source.

Like I said though it really depends on the game you want to run. A lot of them have kernel level anti-cheat now that prevents them from running on non-official devices. Very few games on android have an x86 version. Most are ARM thus requiring a translation layer which is different between Intel and AMD CPUs.

If you have a Windows VM (or maybe wine) you can try running one of the Android emulators through that. It should work fine. Android emulation/VMs on Windows have been very good since the early Windows 7 days. I don't play gacha games but a bunch of my friends play them through Windows VMs. Once you figure out ARM->x86 translation and then getting your GPU working the next issue on Linux is screen emulation. If you don't have a touchscreen you have to use something to translate touches to keys and most of them are kind of laggy. Some people hook up their phone over USB and use that as a touch screen but I'm not sure how well it works.

There is also a Chinese fork of Anbox called xDroid you might try. It's aimed at running gacha games on Linux. But I've heard it isn't very good and I don't think they offer source code or even English instructions.
 
This was helpful in so far that it opened my eyes to may other problems.
And I'm no super knowledgeable with computers. I only know what I have to know. And much as I like puzzles and challenges, I don't really enjoy doing computer stuff.

I guess I will go for a new battery for my tablet.
 
Trying to help someone set up Linux on an old PC.

12yr old ASUS mobo & ASUS GFORCE GTX660-Ti graphics card

Tried to run lakka (black screen), and garuda XFCE (great but can’t change resolution 640x480, HDMI-attached so it’s monitor isn’t really recognised - just none-1 - doesn’t see any of the graphic card ports, no options for changing resolution or refresh rate, have extensively searched and tried everything recommended to try to get this work, updating driver as much as I can find relevant ones, tried everything in xrndr). Graphic card seems to be the problem since Linux hates NVIDIA.

Should he just get a new graphics card or what OS to try next?
 
fairnymph said:
Should he just get a new graphics card or what OS to try next?
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Nvidia graphics cards have two sets of drivers in Linux (and other UNIX) OSs. One is called nouveau. It's created by the community by reverse engineering the the official drivers. But Nvidia doesn't share hardware specs so it's hit and miss and usually doesn't have good performance for anything beyond running a basic desktop. The other set of drivers is distributed by Nividia directly but they're closed source and are only built against certain versions of the Linux kernel. They regularly drop support for older cards by refusing to build the drivers against new kernels. I don't have this card but I'm betting it's old enough now that Nvidia no longer supports it and the old drivers from back when it was supported won't work with newer kernels (ie anything released in the last few years).

What you'll want to do is attempt switching to the noveau drivers if you aren't already using them. Consult your distro's documentation or the archwiki to see how to do this. I can't tell you because it varies from distro to distro. I did a quick web search and I saw some people with this card complaining that the noveau drivers weren't working for them. But you should try anyway because it may work. Just understand that if you do get it working you aren't going to be playing games on it like you can in Windows. I have a GTX 980 card in one machine that's about as old as the one you're attempting to install Linux on and it was supported by official drivers still last I checked. But it was a highend card when it was new. The nouveau drivers always worked.

If the CPU is Intel it likely has built in graphics. You can disable the Nvidia GPU in the BIOS and use the display/VGA/HDMI port on the motherboard to get working graphics off of the built in Intel GPU. This will be better supported by just about everything since the drivers are open source. But you won't be able to use the Nvidia GPU at all and preformance isn't going to be amazing for anything beyond doing basic tasks. It will probably support hardware acceleration for video though. So if you just need a basic desktop it should be fine.

Another option is finding out if the Nvidia GPU you have is still supported in an older kernel then finding a LTS (long term support) distro still using that kernel. But you'll only buy yourself a few years at most before you'll be forced to upgrade again and will lose support for it. You don't want to run an old kernel that isn't getting backports. If you do this you'll be limited to a handful of distros mostly based on Debian. So Debain, Ubuntu, Mint and some others.

If you're going to buy a new dedicated GPU get an AMD or Intel card. Both of them have open source drivers and great support in *NIX OSs. I've switched over from Nvidia totally because of this.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
Having an AMD GPU makes life so much easier. Unless it's brand new it will have kernel support and just work.
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Wasn't that long ago the AMD drivers were really bad and people said not to use anything but Nvidia on Linux. Ironically, those same people probably have horrible support in Linux kernels since 4.x.

Modern AMD drivers are really good. Unless you want to run machine learning locally there isn't much point in buying an Nividia card anymore. Nvidia doesn't seem too concerned about the gaming market anymore either. They're making their money off the AI fad and high-end cards for workstations doing 3D rendering. Those cards are really overpriced but if you want access to those tools you have to pay the fees since they artificially disable support on consumer cards in the drivers now.

Even if you want to pay the toll you're better off buying an AMD or Intel card to drive your displays and just using the Nivida card as a secondary (or for passthru to VMs). I still have a GTX 980 driving a 6 monitor workstation but it's getting long in the tooth now and I'm going to retire it soon and make it a dedicated gaming machine. Will probably stick it in an arcade cabinet.

I just picked up this laptop and I'm really impressed by the built-in GPU that came with the AMD processor. If it could keep itself as cool as my 13 year old desktop it would run circles around it. Nice little mobile machine for compiling software. I can build a kernel in about 5 minutes tops and the entire base system in 30 minutes or so (excluding Xenocara). Everything graphics and sound wise just worked. Much less trouble than having to mess around with getting Nividia's drivers going. It even came with a touchscreen...for some reason. I don't know why anyone would want to smudge their monitor with fingerprints but I have the option to do it if I really want to.

I have a couple of older thinkpads but they're all Intel CPU+GPU. They work fine for what they are but browsing the web on them is becoming troublesome if I don't do it in a text browser. This planned obsolescence thing with hardware really needs to stop. I'm basically forced to buy a new machine every few years now because they load more javascript bullshit on to mainstream websites and the guys at Red Hat keep pushing more and more bullshit down our throats on the Linux side of things. I don't even want to think how bad things must be for people using Windows now. Mac users don't count of course since they've been throwing perfectly good hardware in the garbage every 3 years since the switch from PowerPC to Intel.

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I was wondering if there would be a Linux thread or a car thread. I run arch btw my computer doesn't turn on currently, I will post pics when I fix it. AMD for life Jenson Huang wants to enslave us all with A.I.
 
Shinji Ikari said:
internet what GIF
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Shinji Ikari said:
Having an AMD GPU makes life so much easier. Unless it's brand new it will have kernel support and just work.
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Amd has those new cards that look sick. I know gpus are a nightmare to get, I have a micro center sort of close to me. I don't have like a thousand dollars though. I need to rebuild so I can use the 3d ryzen chip and ddr 5 ram.
 
TheGyattDamnRizzler said:
Amd has those new cards that look sick. I know gpus are a nightmare to get, I have a micro center sort of close to me. I don't have like a thousand dollars though. I need to rebuild so I can use the 3d ryzen chip and ddr 5 ram.
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I'm still rocking a Ryzen 2600 along with an rx580

Vintage :cool:
 
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