The EADD I'm Fucked Megathread - We don't even know what month it is...

[masaz]

Fucked on codeine and weed. Surprisingly only a combination I've tried like once or twice, bizarrely. Is very nice. Taking too long to type this post though

 

[ScotchMist]

T'would be Dan if my taking heroin didnt come wita hint of self loathing. Im miserably fuckd but fucked all the same.

Back in a but, ny eyes and conciseness a failing me at the moment which it making typing and reading difficult.

Enjoy your speed MrColt

 

[ColtDan]

Miserably fucked sorry to hear that mate

 

[ScotchMist]

I may of laid it on thick. Dont worry mate, im just not having the best of times at the moment, all self inflicted I'll add..

I'll be right soon

 

[ColtDan]

Okay take care man x

 

[headfuck123]

kratom arrived, tried 2g of the bali stuff, feeling pretty nice actually

 

[Shambles]

Apologies for continuing to post non-fukked posts in the Fukked Thread - in my defence I've been bladdered for all the other posts I've made on this topic so technically not an issue to be posting them in the Fukked Thread. You can be fukked and say actual things dontcha know

I accept I am not fukked at the moment but haven't looked in for a couple days and am not always so good at letting it lie (he wouldn't let it lie? no he wouldn't let it lie! etc) but it does rather seem there's precious little in the way of points being made the other way at this point so it's probably fizzling out and we can go back to the "I llkj tuik mush beennsazzoosas amd ar fikd" posts we all know and

If H is legal you still have to pay for it. Due to ease of availability, it's possible more people could become addicted. Which means more petty crimes (Theft, shoplifting, beating up grannies for their purses, etc) surely?

Again you are confusing the financial cost of drugs in an illegal market with the cost in a legal market. Heroin is a very cheap drug - it's also very easy to make even cheaper as poppies are easy to grow and there's legit medical use for them too so could even help bring the cost to the NHS down for certain pharmaceutical opioids if there were less legal restrictions on growing poppy. The latter is a bit speculative admittedly, the fact heroin is dirt cheap is not speculative. How d'ya think Afghani addicts can afford to keep up a massive habit? They ain't paying a tenner a bag I can assure you. Same goes for cocaine and for basically every other drug - the illegality puts a massive premium on the costs. Anybody could afford a heroin habit in a legal set-up. Which is not to say everybody would wish to have a heroin habit in a legal world - another point you seem to be convinced of based on nothing and in the face of evidence to the contrary.

I guess it's an inevitable repercussion from an opposition of drugs. You can't fight a war without making sacrifices, can't make an omelette without breaking an egg... etc etc but at the same time, if dealers and gangs want to murder each other... it's kinda their own fault for getting involved.

I simply do not believe you actually believe that yourself. Gangs, dealers, growers/manufacturers and everybody else up and down the more... physical side of the supply chain only kill each other?!? If that is really what you are saying I can only presume you've never read a newspaper, watched the news, read a book, watched a documentary or had a cogent thought. You know that is not the case so why say it?

I see the principle in what you're saying, remove the illegitimacy, then we remove all the crime that comes with it. It's a peaceful approach to the problem

Precisely. You appear to have bought into the bizarre concept of a war on molecules. As mentioned above, surely however anti-legalisation you are you are well aware it is simply a war on the citizenry? It's a way of creating artificial "enemies" to keep police, military and other security services massively overfunded and on constant alert. It's a war on what is arguably a mental illness in the case of drugs of addiction. It's a fantasy not a war. Why would any sane person (or even a government which are not generally known for having the very soundest of mental health en masse) choose to put billions directly into the pockets of some of the most vicious, murderous and callous people in the world allowing them to fund what amount to private armies in the case of some of the Central and South American countries - so well-funded and well-armed they can hold entire nations to ransom? Why would you choose to lock up huge numbers of non-violent drug offenders which must clearly have a pretty big effect on any number of social and economic issues - and not much of that effect could be described as positive even by the most staunch prohibitionist - with entire "lost generations" in certain cases (thinking of Black and Latino young men in America especially)? Why would anybody choose to do all that simply to stop people getting high? Or even to stop them getting addicted? Or even to stop them potentially ODing at the end of a miserable life? Those things are horrible and they are possible consequences from using drugs. They are the choices of the individual though and there are ways to help mitigate - and indeed overcome - those horrible possibilities. Weigh the two against each other and tell me prohibition makes sense.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

It was on the news a month or 2 ago that there is a new "epidemic of heroin as a weapon of mass destruction" anihilating various towns and cities in parts of the USA. The Mexican cartels are flooding the market with cheap heroin, and whilst the police are catching some street dealers and users in the big cities they just dont stand a chance in the rural areas, and it sounds like they have given up entirely on that.

Busting a few dealers and disrupting/inconveniencing things at the end of the supply chain is just a drop in the ocean. Almost completely pointless really. Im sure they are working on the cartels, but even if they do succesfully bring some of the big kingpins down, with the billions of dollars at stake there will never be any shortage of people eager to take their place.

 

[ColtDan]

Low amount of 6-APB to see what this stuff is like in less than usual amounts, over did the dose the other day by accident. was a bit over stimmy and not as nice as i remember it to be. 40/50mg this time. cant remember what my raving dose was back in 2012, 80/100 i think

 

[hexagram]

small line of MD. Fuck it why not : )

 

[ColtDan]

Nice

Saw this guy live, was amazing

 

[Shambles]

It was on the news a month or 2 ago that there is a new "epidemic of heroin as a weapon of mass destruction" anihilating various towns and cities in parts of the USA.

I suspect that's overstating the case just a tad. "Weapon of Mass Destruction"? There's no doubt America has created an enormous shitstorm on their Souther border but it is a problem of their own making and simply blaming it all on cartels without acknowledging the role prohibition had on creating such structures is ridiculous. It's simply trying to put a big scary Mexican face on something that used to have a big scary black urban youth face and before that a big scary Chinese face and so on. Pointing the finger and scaremongering helps nobody. It smacks very much of desperation trying to find a flesh and blood enemy to be at war with for the sake of trying to justify prohibition as a war in the sense of actual war. That is simply not the case and I find it quite worrying that the situation has gotten so out of hand over there that there virtually is an army south of the border to go to war with - an army funded by American drug users and armed with American guns. It's an ugly situation for sure and - perhaps unsurprisingly - there seems to be far more sense being spoken by Central and South American governments on the whole drugs issue than there has ever been in the US (or indeed the majority of Europe and the rest of the world).

 

[hexagram]

liking that Dan, some of the people in that crowd look fucked : P this MD is really strong and speedy, need a few beers to take the edge off.

 

[ColtDan]

Nice, i find MD proper speedy when sniffed, i usually bomb it after getting brain zaps from sniffing a few years ago

Shamby... speed and decent ket.... what a combo that is aint it, fucking christ. made for each other

 

[hexagram]

yeah will stick to bombing it now, meph this aint. I usually prefer MD bombed, just there's something nice about doing a line of any substance.

 

[ColtDan]

Know what ya mean. love sniffing stuff, ever since pre ban meph every time i got drunk i wanted to sniff something

 

[Shambles]

Shamby... speed and decent ket.... what a combo that is aint it, fucking christ. made for each other

Y'know I've never actually had the chance to combine decent speed with ket - mainly cos getting decent of either is all but impossible (for me) these last couple years. Ket here used to be pure as pure can be but the speed was always atrocious. Previously I could get insanely good speed but never really thought about ket and never came across it in my circle. Had... interesting times with ket + peev combos but suspect that's a rather different animal.

Enjoy

(you lucky swine )

 

[Raasyvibe]

Inflo, us boys have to have it out time to time. Once we're done it will pass for a few months.

If we started a thread there'd be loads of tl;dr comments and all the points would get lost. I much prefer it spontaneous like this, only those who care enough to ruin the thread contribute.


Riiight... down to business.... and excuse me if I'm being nice about this.... didn't realise my posts "un-nerve" people so much!

Look away Inflo, I'll be quick.

A) Where did I say sell heroin for £3 a g over the counter? I said that was the manufacturing cost. I said sell heroin at a sensible price. When you start twisting peoples actual words Raas its a sign you are either losing the debate or need some reading lessons.

No I skim-read the post here and misread you a little, I accept. The point remains though. Cheap quality heroin over the counter gives me quite an unsettling feeling. Like Shamby, I feel being a proponent of recreational drug use and a user yourself, you don't seem to appreciate just how wrong in ethic or seem aware of the potential repercussions introducing such a thing on a largely vulnerable society could have.

B) Its a global world now. Deal with it.

At the same time we're not at the point of having governments usurped by the mafia. Don't think the problem is anywhere near big enough to warrant a worldwide legalisation quite yet.



Shambles.... Gee one at a time please.... I'll respond in due course.

 

[ColtDan]

Y'know I've never actually had the chance to combine decent speed with ket - mainly cos getting decent of either is all but impossible (for me) these last couple years. Ket here used to be pure as pure can be but the speed was always atrocious. Previously I could get insanely good speed but never really thought about ket and never came across it in my circle. Had... interesting times with ket + peev combos but suspect that's a rather different animal.

Enjoy

(you lucky swine )

Cheers not on it now, that was yesterdays combo however, this speed aint the best... lacking the rush.... apart from that decent, ended up mashed off it which i wasnt expecting, dilated pupils, full on buzz... previous batch was rushy plus all the doperminey buzz on less but.... anyways this ket is the best ive ever had.... made the wonk so sharp, hit harder and could feel it rushing through me, absolute fucking belter of a combo, perfect, dont think i'll bother with ket now unless its ontop of speed. not that i can afford the stupid price of ket now anyway

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Crystal meth + ketamine = far greater recall of the k hole.

Great combo.