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Medical education, while it can be biased as you say, is separate from the institutions of research. In nearly all cases, medical doctors are not researchers. I definitely have a distrust of physicians when it comes to doing and interpreting research, I've only met a few who I thought had a good understanding of the process. In my mind those are two separate issues with only a small amount of overlap.

The biasing of medical doctors is how pharma companies get their medications prescribed, not approved. The prescribing is where they make their profit after the medication goes through research and trials for efficacy and safety. Those trials are much harder to influence although not impossible.

Also I checked sci-hub and they don't seem to have the article
 
Medical education is a critical chokepoint if people have to pass through there in order to become qualified to be practicing doctors or researchers, and when administrators that deal more with the funding aspect are the ones calling the shots and telling the practicing doctors what protocols they have to obey (or else).

Objectivity was already thrown out the window and that's damage that won't be undone unless those at the top responsible for muzzling docs are fired.
 
Doctors have occasionally THOUGHT they were researchers - Andrew Wakefield (now struck off) who was being paid to promote SEPERATE measles, mumps and rubella inoculations by the rival pharma company that made them. He listed 'no conflict of interest' which was a lie. Study was also tiny, badly designed, used no control and the data was shown to be manipulated.

WHO does The Lancet use for peer review - other doctors who aren't qualified to carry out a peer review.

 
someguyontheinternet said:
Yea, exactly, that's what I said 💕
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Nature has an apposite paper.

www.nature.com

The psychological drivers of misinformation belief and its resistance to correction - Nature Reviews Psychology

Misinformation is influential despite unprecedented access to high-quality, factual information. In this Review, Ecker et al. describe the cognitive, social and affective factors that drive sustained belief in misinformation, synthesize the evidence for interventions to reduce its effects and...
www.nature.com www.nature.com
 
AlsoTapered said:
www.nature.com

The psychological drivers of misinformation belief and its resistance to correction - Nature Reviews Psychology

Misinformation is influential despite unprecedented access to high-quality, factual information. In this Review, Ecker et al. describe the cognitive, social and affective factors that drive sustained belief in misinformation, synthesize the evidence for interventions to reduce its effects and...
www.nature.com www.nature.com
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You think they got one of these for mal information? That’s the most concerning type of wrong think imo
 
someguyontheinternet said:
12ft doesn't seem to work for that article
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Conspiracy sites aren't really a reliable source of evidence.

www.forbes.com

Twitter Bans ZeroHedge For Publishing Coronavirus Conspiracy Theory, Doxxing Chinese Doctor

On Friday, Twitter banned right-leaning financial blog ZeroHedge for publishing a conspiracy theory related to the coronavirus, and sharing the name and personal information of a Chinese doctor linked to the theory.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

They are being deplanformed... and you know what I've kept repeating on that matter.
 
newrepublic.com

Is Zero Hedge a Russian Trojan Horse?

The father of the founder of the conspiratorial site filed a criminal complaint against me in Bulgaria. Then things got weird.
newrepublic.com newrepublic.com

One conspiracy theory their ardent Zero Hedge followers WON'T believe.

But the conclusion is self-evidently true. Marshall Mcluhan's tome 'The Gutenburg Galaxy' is prescient and if you write what people WANT to believe, they will not be skeptical.

Critical thinking needs to be taught in schools.

Only yesterday we had the 'invermectin works - look at Peru' said with TOTAL conviction.

Yes, Peru. The nation with the highest covid death-toll per capita in the world. They could so easily have checked. I actually knew but had to reconfirm my data (10 seconds), But if you believe 1 source and accept that the aggregator is an expert, you would believe it.
 
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AlsoTapered said:
Conspiracy sites aren't really a reliable source of evidence.
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Oh I know, I just wanted to read the actual content of the transparency 'study' so that I could provide a critique of the methodology and analysis beyond stating that the study and peer review was bought by billionaires. The article is behind a paywall on BMJ
 
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