The Dive's Covid Thread

[JGrimez]

It is bordering on harassment and he has been warned about it in the past. Just can't let it go (like many of the covid/vaccine lies)

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

I would appreciate if we ALL did our part with regards to keeping on topic.
It takes two to tango.
I know this is the Dive, but let's remember it's not the lounge.

 

[JGrimez]

-I don't think it's right to force this upon people
"You're dangerous"

-People should be allowed to choose for themselves...
"You won't be allowed to see your family or travel again"

-The mainstream media is pushing this is unethical ways
"You must be a far-right conspiracy theorist"

-What happened to informed consent?
"Stop spreading misinformation and trust the experts"

-I think I'll just wait and see...
"You are facing a winter of severe illness and death if you do..."

-Something seems really off about this...
"You're a conspiracy theorist"

-Why are so many doctors and people who agree with me being silenced?
"They're conspiracy theorists too"

-We are not going to comply...
"OK, you'll just lose your job, your family will turn on you, and you'll never be able to travel or go out in public ever again...

I'm not afraid.
Because what if we woke up instead?
And took charge of our lives and our health?
Even tho we were ridiculed, shamed, cancelled for it...
...and what was meant to be the largest psy-op in human history
turned even more people into taking care of their health in mind/body/spirit.
And instead of a "Great Reset" - .we had a collective awakening.

 

[JGrimez]

Dr. McCullough Testifies the Truth About the Number of People Who Died from COVID Vaccines

Testifying in front of the Arizona State Legislature, Dr. @P_McCulloughMD presented three separate sources that concluded the same thing: hundreds of thousands of Americans have lost their lives to the COVID vaccines.

• Pantazatos and Seligmann, based on US census and vaccine administration data, estimated 178,000 lives lost from the COVID-19 vaccines in 2021 alone.

• Skidmore and colleagues from Michigan State University concluded 278,000 Americans died in 2021 from the COVID shots.

• And Josh Stirling, a top financial analyst, has estimated the COVID-19 jabs are responsible for about 600,000 excess deaths per year.

“This is more than the Civil War,” stressed Dr. @P_McCulloughMD.

“This is a modern-day American tragedy that’s happening. People are being pitted with losing their job and losing their livelihood or losing their life with a vaccine — and no one’s apologizing for it.”

 

[swilow]

The pharmaceutical companies are like gods to these people, science = the establishment = pharma

Discernment is an alt right conspiracy theory

How many podcasts did it take you to conclude that "science = establishment"?

I thought it was worth more then a throwaway at the end of the sentence

Bullshit. We both know you couldn't make it to the end of my post.

However the increased magnitude of athletes

Yes, but is there an increased "magnitude" of athletes dying?

In 2012, it was 1 every 3 days. 150 or so a year in the States.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.111.023861

Can you prove that this is happening more and that it is due to the vaccine, and not COVID or the effects of lockdown inflicted delays in medical treatments?

I don't really give a fuck if someone is or isn't vaccinated tbh. I don't get why you guys are on such a crusade over what people chose to do.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

LYING MOTHERFUCKERS

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

she thinks it's funny too....

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Asclepius]

they? every major medical institute, hospital, government (allies and enemies alike), etc. etc. are all colluding to fugde, hide, lie about the data? i just don't buy it. this would be a conspiracy of unfathomable magnitude and unprecedented cooperation.



if you look at the abstract, they compare covid deaths (edit my bad, hospitalizations) to vaccine adverse events, which is not apples to apples. and it's a hypothetical, not even looking at real deaths vs real deaths.

it's amazing that the vaers death reports are like 3 levels of magnitude (iirc) under covid death counts (% to %)... you'd think it'd be a lot closer if the jabs are killing more ppl than the virus (even if we assume overreporting covid deaths and underreporting vaxx deaths, which i also don't buy as a given)

i don't have time rn to check all the other links, but that one jumps out.

Re. how profoundly, inept the entire modelling & therefore, data was. Frighteningly, It appears the WHO choose to use similar, again. There is obviously, huge global, political corruption involved & "useless idiots" used, to exploit crises.

Below, excerpts from article link: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2021.625778/full

How It Started: Modeling​

Early modeling made concerning predictions that induced fear (Table 1). Kissler et al. predicted the need for intermittent lockdowns occurring for a total of 75% of the time, even after July 2022, to avoid “overwhelming critical care capacity (page 866 in ref. 2)” (2–4). In their discussion they wrote that the response “is likely to have profoundly negative economic, social, and educational consequences… We do not take a position on the advisability of these scenarios given the economic burden… (page 868)” (2). On March 16, 2020, the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team published modeling of the impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPI) to reduce COVID-19 mortality and healthcare demand in the United States (US) and United Kingdom (UK) (5). They wrote that suppression “needs to be in force for the majority [>2/3 of the time] of the 2 years of the simulation (page 11),” without which there would be 510,000 deaths in Great Britain and 2.2 million deaths in the United States by mid-April, surpassing ICU demand by 30 times (5). In their discussion they wrote that “we do not consider the ethical or economic implications (page 4)… The social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound (page 16)…” (5). The Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team extended this to the global impact of the pandemic on March 26, 2020, and estimated that without lockdowns there would be
Table 1

TABLE 1. Initial modeling predictions that induced fear and crowd-effects.

How It Took Off: Crowd Effects (Groupthink)​

There ensued a contagion of fear and policies across the world (9–12). Social media spread a growing sense of panic (13). Popular media focused on absolute numbers of COVID-19 cases and deaths independent of context, with a “sheer one-sided focus (page 4)” on preventing infection (12). There was an appeal of group hysteria; “everyone got a break from their ambitions and other burdens carried in normal life,” and became united in crowds, which have a numbing effect (9). There was talk of “acting together against a common threat,” “about seeming to reduce risks of infection and deaths from this one particular disease, to the exclusion of all other health risks or other life concerns,” with virtue signaling to the crowd, of “something they love to hate and be seen to fight against” (9). A war effort analogy is apt, with the “unquestioning presumption that the cause is right, that the fight will be won, that naysayers and non-combatants [e.g., not wearing a mask] are basically traitors, and that there are technical solutions [e.g., vaccine and drugs] that will quickly overcome any apparent problem or collateral damage.

 

[Asclepius]

Ozempic is in short supply, ATM. Young overweight/diabetic kids, are prescribed as a primary intervention (over, diet & lifestyle, changes). Lifetime supply required for those individuals, so I heard but not 100% certain.
Everyone's a cash-cow.

 

[Electrum1]

Yeah there's a big race right now in the pharma industry to get obesity drugs to market and of course most of them you have to keep taking even after you lose weight, lol

 

[Droppersneck]

Yeah there's a big race right now in the pharma industry to get obesity drugs to market and of course most of them you have to keep taking even after you lose weight, lol

Taking a pill instead of having to work at something just seems inherently wrong

 

[Asclepius]

^ well of course, it should only be for a medical condition. Most Kids shouldn't be medicated - but yeah, water is wet.

 

[Electrum1]

 

[nepalnt21]

@jane douloureux

those covid deaths, what ages? it's an important detail

 

[nepalnt21]

i'll admit, usually now (since a few days ago) i skim your posts because they've historically (well, lately) been a waste of my precious time, but:

It is also worth noting that the same NHS Trust provided the following information on “new COVID positives” in its hospitals between 19th Jan 2021 and 19th Jan 2022.

this is the only place in a graphic in your post that mentions age, as far as i can see. and it isn't deaths.

maybe you could point out the graph you're talking about? maybe you accidentally deleted it?

 

[JGrimez]

There's a chance this virus actually came out the secretive Fort Detrick military biolab in MD. That's what the Chinese are saying. The CDC shut down the lab in 2019 for an unexplained "breach". Also in 2019 there was a strange outbreak of deaths from "vaping". But there was nothing before or since that related to "vaping deaths" and some of the victims didn't even vape. It killed people in 49 states. I believe this may have actually been covid considering the timing (retroactive covid samples were found in Europe before that were dated before the first case in China). Though whether covid came out of lab in US or China, there were US officials involved. The only thing we can factually prove is that China was the first country to act on it.

I just listened to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the Joe Rogan podcast. He goes very deep into the studies, science and the industry behind vaccines. He knows so much that he could clean up the vaccine industry if he were president. That could be the main reason why he's getting censored all over the place. They can't sue him for defamation or libel because he's speaking facts so they just hide what he's saying and call him crazy so people dismiss him. But what's actually crazy is how these vaccines do not go through stringent placebo studies, how they're forced onto children and then how the extent of the injuries aren't reported - less than 1% of injuries are reported to VAERS (and VAERS is a piece of shit reporting system).

 

[-=SS=-]

It's all bollocks. I'll keep saying it. Nothing came from nowhere.

If it were actually real you wouldn't have Boris Johnson and the top-level of government having parties at the peak in April 2020, and all the other deceitful scumbags breaking their own rules to go and see mistresses or what have you. And that was just in the UK. I imagine it was exactly the same in all the other countries and if I spend time I could dig up the stories.

You wouldn't have both Trump and Boris playing their little 'health scare' dramas either. Or Matt Hancock 'crying' on TV, which was the clearest example of dupers delight I've ever seen. The guy was laughing at just how fucking stupid we all are for falling for such evident bullshit.

What is easier to accomplish? Actually releasing a biological agent and hoping it doesn't kill too many people, or kill too few, and trying to maintain the narrative in either case - lots of unknowns and factors to control. Or, not releasing anything and just convincing people something is happening, then you only have one factor to control.. which is the hypnosis of the subjects under the delusion.

What sort of bioweapon has a predominant target age of those who are already above the average age of mortality, or are about to die anyway (morbidly obese, those with serious underlying conditions, etc). That has to be the most shite bioweapon I've ever heard of.

Once you understand that the methods used to 'test' people were complete bollocks, and also that the way statistical data was gathered was utterly ridiculous e.g. counting a covid death as someone who died within 28 days of a positive test, then it should be pretty obvious that what I've said above is true. The fact they had to resort to such blatant techniques clearly demonstrates that there wasn't anything actually happening.. why else would they need to do that unless people weren't actually dying of this mysterious disease? Why would they need to resort to round the clock propaganda to convince you something was happening? Why would they need to use the military and intelligence service to enforce censorship on their own citizens? Psychological 'nudge' units? Ban protest?

 

[JGrimez]

I think it was real and just has the severity of a bad flu.