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The Dive's Covid Thread

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only 38,000??? so it IS much safer than the virus.

and here i thought it was hundreds of thousands of american deaths due to the vaccine that you guys were claiming...

ha, i guess i'm good, only 38,000 deaths. tight.

that explains the lack of mass vaccine graves.
 
nepalnt21 said:
only 38,000??? so it IS much safer than the virus.

and here i thought it was hundreds of thousands of american deaths due to the vaccine that you guys were claiming...

ha, i guess i'm good, only 38,000 deaths. tight.

that explains the lack of mass vaccine graves.
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I think that’s just the number VAIRS can corroborate. Many more were killed by the establishment juice, that can’t be confirmed by their own metrics.
 
Dropperneck said:
whom really knows
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not you. my point.

here's a guy taking a walk in the park and not dying suddenly, thus proving again that the vaccinations are quite safe*

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* i have no idea of his vaccination status but that's irrelevant, right?

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
not you. my point.

here's a guy taking a walk in the park and not dying suddenly, thus proving again that the vaccinations are quite safe*

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* i have no idea of his vaccination status but that's irrelevant, right?

alasdair
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I’ve got a question. Deep down you must respect trump, or have some sort of mass appeal, for all of you guys to get his vaccine. And to defend the product so strongly. What was it about his pitch that really sold you on the vaccine?
 
Dropperneck said:
I’ve got a question. Deep down you must respect trump, or have some sort of mass appeal, for all of you guys to get his vaccine. And to defend the product so strongly. What was it about his pitch that really sold you on the vaccine?
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you must really love logical fallacies to keep using them so much.

(o wait, this is your attempt at a humorous little thingum, ahahaha i get it!)
 
swilow said:
I did search for a whole bunch and a lot of the results were basically untrustworthy or unknown sources or just other copies of the same list. I don't instantly just believe what i read online like you.
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Forgive me if I don't put much faith into your ability to decide what is a trustworthy/untrustworthy source.
If it's a lower-level athlete then it's obviously not going to be reported on the national news.
However the increased magnitude of athletes dropping and suffering heart issues is noteworthy for 2 reasons:
Athletes are often the fittest and healthiest individuals in our society
And since the vaccine mandates covered many different industries, including amateur/professional sports, nothing like this has ever been done for so we're basically witnessing the side effects of one of the largest medical experiments (if not the largest) of all time.

swilow said:
Why? How do they benefit? Are they all part of this global conspiracy to kill off the population? The media can't even hack celebrity phones without getting caught.

I think media are hugely corrupt but not sure how random twitter accounts and heterodox podcasters are somehow different. You only value these sources because they agree with you.
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News media organisations only exist thanks to advertisers. It's one of the reasons you won't see the news media reporting on the successes and amazing health benefits of low-carbohydrate nutrition + the dangers of high-sugar/high-processed foods, for example. The advertisers are often processed food companies, soda drink companies etc.
It is sad that large corporations care more about profits than improving our health but anyone who's been paying attention for the last 50 years has definitely worked this out by now. If they can cut corners without causing problems for themselves then they will.

When it comes to drug companies they're even more sketchy due to their extensive criminal history and protection from politicians (the revolving door between Big Pharma boards and government regulator positions has been shown to be real). Even when they get caught in the negligent murder of patients, the fines and punishments they receive are virtually a slap on the wrist. The entire concept of a pharmaceutical corporation is paradoxical. Their stated goal is to cure disease and make people healthy - which is a direct conflict of interest to their shareholders and corporate obligation to increase profits.
I personally don't think the vaccines were necessarily designed to kill but I wouldn't be surprised if they are some of technology related to behavior modification. However with a new technology that wasn't tested on: pregnant women, old people, the medically vulnerable or tested in conjunction with other medications - then I'm not surprised we're seeing so many people die from it. Evidence has come out that they manipulated the early trials in order to hide the injuries/deaths in order to brand the drugs "safe and effective". Also the bombshell that the spike protein is not localized as we were told and can/does spread throughout the rest of the body. There's also the extremely dodgy practice of demonizing (and banning doctors from using) drugs that showed promise to treating covid, were extremely safe and had been prescribed billions of times over half a century. Ivermectin was on the WHO's list of essential medications and the way that CNN (and other media) gaslighted people by calling it "horse medicine" - I'd say people should've gone to jail for that shit. But the real reason the media organisations were coerced into doing that was because- if there were effective medicinal treatments for covid then they would not have been able to mandate vaccines. The extent of evil here is difficult to fathom, even for someone like myself.

Basically the willingness to observe and accept evidence comes down to your worldview. If you cannot believe that entire industries and governments can be taken over by seemingly-psychopathic people who weaponize media to further and protect their agendas - then none of the evidence we present will ever make any sense to you. Polish psychiatrist Andrzej Lobaczewski, who studied the fascists who took over his country, called this system of government a pathocracy. This is when individuals with personality disorders (particularly psychopathy) occupy positions of power. Once you realize this is what we are living under (on a seemingly global scale) then a LOT more makes sense.
 
nepalnt21 said:
putting "fact" at the front of a lie doesn't make it a fact.
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No, looking at the survival rates by age group makes it a fact.

nepalnt21 said:
athletes used to die of heart stuff before covid, why the fuck would your "pro tip" simply work?
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Of course it did happen but it was quite rare. Nowhere near the extent of what we're seeing post-vaccination. If you deny this, then it's a waste of time talking to you. If you accept what is happening, then I'd like to hear your explanation (if it's not the vaccine).

nepalnt21 said:
why should we automatically care at all about "the media"? people need to stop blindly trusting the media (and this includes you: rando vloggers, twitter, and "truth" network are also forms of media). use your critical thinking skills, i'm sure you have em...
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I do. You have to dig and search for truth. I trust people with good track records, who have made consistently accurate predictions, credible whistleblowers who have a lot to lose by speaking out are also worth listening to in entirety and taken seriously. There's no other way to explain why they would speak out about something and risk everything while they could simply parrot the official agenda and have a successful career. It's because these people are ruled by their conscience and they feel compelled to do what's best for the public.

nepalnt21 said:
same, and luckily i didn't just blindly trust anyone that said things... i did my own looking, the whole damn pandemic.
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually did do this, however you got it wrong. It's OK we all make mistakes but that's how we learn and more importantly how we learn who not to trust in the future. Unfortunately you cannot un-vaccinate yourself but I also don't think it's the end of the world for most people. However, when the mandated microchip comes in the very near future, I STRONGLY recommend you AVOID IT at all costs. But hey what would I know, I'm just an unvaccinated conspiracy theorist.

As for your last question - you can bold your text if you wish to put emphasis on it without making it an obnoxiously large font. I promise I will read all of your posts even if I disagree with everything you say. Explaining the inflated and manipulated death tolls around will take a while and involves a lot of nuance, and honestly I don't feel you're intellectually honest enough to waste my time on. If you haven't sought out the information by now then I feel your mind is made up and cannot be changed. But basically we've had better and much worse flu seasons over the years and during covid the flu virtually disappeared - it didn't really disappear but flu deaths were listed as covid. Along with many other deaths where people died WITH covid but not OF covid, yet they were listed as covid deaths (I already mentioned how Senator/Doctor Scott Jensen blew the whistle on how the national medical boards were instructing doctors to alter how they filled out death certificates. This was unprecedented and suspicious). I even saw a few gunshot and traffic accident victims were listed as covid deaths. This kinda of manipulation on a mass scale can easily convince people, who don't look too deeply into it, that the covid virus was causing an exaggerated number of deaths.

By the way, since it was proven that the virus came out of a lab (which early on was a "dangerous" and social media ban-worthy theory) - are they going to hold those government officials responsible? I mean if people like yourself honestly believe covid was that bad, shouldn't you all be out in the streets protesting en masse and demanding that the culprits be brought to justice? I don't see that happening, instead I see people TRUSTING THOSE SAME OFFICIALS and then lining up to take their experimental "cure" (that they also later admitted was never tested to prevent transmission).
 
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