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The Dive's Covid Thread

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JGrimez said:
medical experiment?
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what you call "medical experiment", intelligent people call "the thing that has let us move on without serious worry of mis-c, random heart issues, who knows wtf else down the road, etc."

good parents also put their kids in correctly installed car seats before driving off with them to the park.

you act like i didn't study the rates of vaccinations and reported cases in vaers to see if it was too risky. there were like 3-6 reports of deaths (out of tens of thousands of vaccinations in the u.s. by then in the age geoup i was looking at) in the very young (the age group i was concernes about), either all of them or almost all of them listed serious underlying conditions, iirc, and one of them NO JOKE listed SELF INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND as a cause of death. we (their mother and i, as well as the medical professionals in their life) decided it was a good idea, and we (my wife and i) decided it would have been IRRESPONSIBLE and STUPID of us to risk viral roullette for my kids when the virus was clearly more dangerous for them.

yes, getting them vaccinated was good parenting.


JGrimez said:
50,000 people dead in the UK just in one season
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why do you wrongfully assume i'm not aware of the flu's deaths?

coronavirus deaths were almost a level of magnitude more than that in the u.s. in 2020, and again in 2021.

what's your point? that the flu, in the u.s., magically killed over ten times the amount as a normal year and yet flu (punny) under the radar? that's nuckin futz. you can't be serious with that smelly ass dogshit!
 
nepalnt21 said:
i challenge that, but ultimately... it doesn't matter. having more words than other ppl means nothing if many of those words are clearly stank- ass horse- malarkey.

his association with AAPS, his spreading of patent pandemic misinfo, his WILD claims (hundreds of thousands of americans have died due to the vaccines) based upon scant and dubious sources (an insurance analyst's estimates, a study of 480 ppl)... the man has no credibility on these matters (mass vaccine deaths).

if hundreds of thousands of americans were dying from the vaccine, twenty bill gates couldn't cover it up.

the mass graves, the hospital overloads, it WOULD ABSOLUTELY show, in a big way. it's absurd ppl actually make these wild claims and so many others eat it up.
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Challenge what? It’s a fact
 
Dropperneck said:
The most published cardiologist in the world, blowing the whistle on a faulty experimental pharmaceutical product.. The signs of a grifter..
The marketing teams of the pharmaceutical companies working hand in hand with the establishment creates mass delusion.
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This is just an appeal to authority.

Noone in the wider world knew who this guy was until covid. His career has absolutely caught fire since. While I'm not saying he's wrong here, I am saying that his positions are muddied by the social reward he's received from this. He could have opted to stick to the science, instead he jumped on the heterodox podcast circuit and blew up. All this incentivising creates corruption, as it must do for individuals and pharmaceutical giants alike.
 
swilow said:
This is just an appeal to authority.

Noone in the wider world knew who this guy was until covid. His career has absolutely caught fire since. While I'm not saying he's wrong here, I am saying that his positions are muddied by the social reward he's received from this. He could have opted to stick to the science, instead he jumped on the heterodox podcast circuit and blew up. All this incentivising creates corruption, as it must do for individuals and pharmaceutical giants alike.
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Social reward? Fauci and pro establishment/pharmaceutical company folx get social rewards. All of these doctors, or at least most of them have lost their medical licenses and have been completely ruined for speaking out. They got a 15 minutes of fame, bc they were willing to tell the truth on record.
The establishment and pharmaceutical companies are beyond evil, and only their guys get ‘rewarded’. Dissenters to the establishment get raided by the fbi and ruined. Ya need to start paying attention, we are heavily in banana republic territory. Many of the people on the left just see their guys winning consistently, so they are willing to turn a blind eye. But this type of stuff never ends well for anyone that holds no power.
 
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@Dropperneck

why would i? fuck pfizer.

do you imagine i love hitler, too? because i believe in animal rights like he did?

you still didn't tell me where you got that graph.
 
nepalnt21 said:
what you call "medical experiment", intelligent people call "the thing that has let us move on without serious worry of mis-c, random heart issues, who knows wtf else down the road, etc."

good parents also put their kids in correctly installed car seats before driving off with them to the park.

you act like i didn't study the rates of vaccinations and reported cases in vaers to see if it was too risky. there were like 3-6 reports of deaths (out of tens of thousands of vaccinations in the u.s. by then in the age geoup i was looking at) in the very young (the age group i was concernes about), either all of them or almost all of them listed serious underlying conditions, iirc, and one of them NO JOKE listed SELF INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND as a cause of death. we (their mother and i, as well as the medical professionals in their life) decided it was a good idea, and we (my wife and i) decided it would have been IRRESPONSIBLE and STUPID of us to risk viral roullette for my kids when the virus was clearly more dangerous for them.

yes, getting them vaccinated was good parenting.



why do you wrongfully assume i'm not aware of the flu's deaths?

coronavirus deaths were almost a level of magnitude more than that in the u.s. in 2020, and again in 2021.

what's your point? that the flu, in the u.s., magically killed over ten times the amount as a normal year and yet flu (punny) under the radar? that's nuckin futz. you can't be serious with that smelly ass dogshit!
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Write it in bigger letters to help convince yourself.
The fact is that covid was not dangerous at all to children.
And vaccine side effects are much more common than what people think.
This "vaccine" was not like any of the previous vaccines. It is a new technology, new as in never tested en masse, new as in experimental.
You were coerced and manipulated into thinking that giving an experimental mRNA injection to your children who were not at risk from covid was "good parenting".
I spoke to a lot of people who got the injection themselves but said there was no way in hell they'd give it to their kids.
I understand that this is a big reason why many people refuse to accept evidence to show that vaccines (all vaccines) are harmful. They just cannot bear the idea that they put their child's health at risk. I don't necessarily blame them because the propaganda and indoctrination is so strong, I blame the criminal (and frankly, quite evil) drug companies.

First study on vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children pulled from Web​

"A total of 415 mothers provided data on 666 children, of which 261 (39%) were unvaccinated. Vaccinated children were significantly less likely than the unvaccinated to have been diagnosed with chickenpox and pertussis, but significantly more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia, otitis media, allergies and NDDs (defined as Autism Spectrum Disorder, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, and/or a learning disability)."
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"In this study based on mothers' reports, the vaccinated had a higher rate of allergies and NDD than the unvaccinated. Vaccination, but not preterm birth, remained significantly associated with NDD after controlling for other factors. However, preterm birth combined with vaccination was associated with an apparent synergistic increase in the odds of NDD. Further research involving larger, independent samples is needed to verify and understand these unexpected findings in order to optimize the impact of vaccines on children's health."
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The study: Pilot comparative study on the health of vaccinated and unvaccinated 6- to 12- year old U.S. children
The medical establishment could do a study like this, with tens of thousands of children, in order to prove that vaccines are safe and effective. Wanna know why they refuse to do any comparative studies? Because it would show that unvaccinated children are much healthier, and suffer from less diseases, than vaccinated children.

This is the video that woke me up to the true dangers of vaccines and proves that they are not properly tested for safety. So anyone who says that vaccines are "safe and effective" are talking complete shit and simply parroting what the drug companies tell them.

The Irrefutable Argument AGAINST Vaccine Safety (1 hour 35mins)​

 
swilow said:
Most of this person's posts are ripped directly from other sources and just posted in this thread without context or acknowledgement. That's spam, mate.
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It wouldn't take long for you to search and find a list of all of the young, healthy athletes that have collapsed and died while playing sports, post-vaccination.
You can even search for each one individually to verify it's a real story (I did that to a whole bunch).
Here'a a pro-tip for you: if an article discusses a death and it says the person "died suddenly" without giving any cause of death, then you can definitely list the vaccine as a likely cause or influence. What people need to understand is that the media is going out of its way to protect the vaccine and the manufacturers/distributors of it. Once you realize this then you'll understand why there aren't more obvious questions and investigations being demanded by the media (but even then, we ARE sometimes seeing some people bring it up on television).

If anyone says that the spate of young athletes collapsing/dying was happening, to anywhere near the same extent, before the mass covid vax rollout - they are simply living in a fantasy land and talking absolute nonsense. The way the media is attempting to normalize heart conditions in young people is extremely telling.
 
I did search for a whole bunch and a lot of the results were basically untrustworthy or unknown sources or just other copies of the same list. I don't instantly just believe what i read online like you.

I mean, literally the first one I searched for lead to this: https://sportsbrief.com/football/67...r-who-died-day-he-was-fly-join-european-club/

I suppose "sports brief" are in the pockets of big pharma though.

JGrimez said:
What people need to understand is that the media is going out of its way to protect the vaccine and the manufacturers/distributors of it
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Why? How do they benefit? Are they all part of this global conspiracy to kill off the population? The media can't even hack celebrity phones without getting caught.

I think media are hugely corrupt but not sure how random twitter accounts and heterodox podcasters are somehow different. You only value these sources because they agree with you.
 
JGrimez said:
The fact is that covid was not dangerous at all to children.
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putting "fact" at the front of a lie doesn't make it a fact.
JGrimez said:
you can definitely
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"pro tip" at the beginning of bullshit doesn't make it not shitty advice.

athletes used to die of heart stuff before covid, why the fuck would your "pro tip" simply work?

JGrimez said:
people need to understand is that the media
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why should we automatically care at all about "the media"? people need to stop blindly trusting the media (and this includes you: rando vloggers, twitter, and "truth" network are also forms of media). use your critical thinking skills, i'm sure you have em...

JGrimez said:
I spoke
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same, and luckily i didn't just blindly trust anyone that said things... i did my own looking, the whole damn pandemic.

even john campbell knew in march 2020 that very young children were at a relatively elevated risk of negative outcomes from covid, as compared to older kids.

you still haven't explained how the flu, in 2020 and again in 2021, killed ten times the normal amount and yet somehow, magically, everyone stupidly made the same mistake of blaming it on a coronavirus...
 
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