The Dive's Covid Thread
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It’s so pathetic how governments or large companies say something and people assume it to be true just cause such a large entity couldn’t lie, right ? Even tho that’s been proven not the case over and over and over, it’s fucking bonkers, I guess I have to remember what kind of people frequent this site :/
i don't think, in my experience, that describes many people who frequent cep&s.
i think there are very few people here who blindly accept anything and everything governments or large companies say without some degree of questioning, either internally or externally.
are there some people here who believe some things that they say? sure. but that's a pretty different analysis.
i wouldn't say it's pathetic but it seems just as extreme to believe nothing governments or large companies say.
yep - for the most just people with, likely, a lot more in common with you than you think. you could try to understand them a little better but, sure, it's a lot easier to just make assumptions which fit biases. never forget they are stupid, idiotic, ignorant, pathetic, etc.
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ImthatMFer
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I’m very interested in what’s referred to as damage as in details bc I got the Moderna on state( got tired of quarantines bc you’re in seg n it’s super hard on a couple aspects studies show so after half a year of in n out of quarantines I said okie doke smh) anyway I’ve always been healthy as a horse n hadn’t noticed any effects right away but I have these spells where it hurts like hell in my chest it feels like someone’s standing on it x10 n near crippling I drop everything I’m doing and try to calm it breathing technique’s my Mom always told me yet overlooked till this began. Sometimes they’re reoccurring which is hell and by reoccurring I mean after calming n and pain subsides it’ll flare up again and it’s always scary I’ve heard of heart attacks and it may be such, need to research specifics on such yet I’m 34 and have always been healthy I eat good overall and drink water mostly but if I consume more than a cup of coffee I’m in a panic to stop the flare up all over again. Scary and have done my best to overlook yet I’m aware our bodies have ways of telling us things aren’t right and realize this isn’t normal and needs acknowledgment and a way of combating if possible if nothing else I owe it to myself to identify it and learn what’s best for me even a diet plan to strengthen heart bc it’s most likely incurable and know it can’t worsen unless time under stress is prolonged.
Any info is much appreciated
ageingpartyfiend
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Why would your mum show you relaxation breathing techs before you had any issue mate?
Just asking because what you are describing sounds exactly like anxiety, also the way you speak about 'it's most likely incurable' etc points in that direction. Anxiety is no joke though
If you believe you have a heart proble please see a medic asap and don't waste your time asking for information on a drugs forumm that we cannot possibly help you with
ImthatMFer
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She’s always been into yoga and whether riding in car bsing about whatever or her knowing when I get upset I shut down. Guess it’s a mother being a mother but if specifics are needed I’ll ask her when I see her he’ll probably will now it’s brought up it’s never come to mind to question yet I must point out it was only a couple years ago while I was in rehab
ImthatMFer
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Also you make a great point about seeking medical advice yet I don’t see anything coming out of it given what’s going on around here (small town) they go ahead and write you off a a doper n think either you’re wigging or after whatever medication n tell you it’s in your head n my assistant will walk you down to billing
ImthatMFer
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Had a spider bite on my ass cheek that had 2 dots in the middle and was obviously infected, they came back telling me it was a bug bite. After my aunt saw it(she’d been bitten by a brown recluse) I was diagnosed properly
My father went in w a mean bite he suffered after putting on boots aka attempting he was diagnosed as having been stung by a scorpion lol we don’t have em in mountains of NC
My father went in w a mean bite he suffered after putting on boots aka attempting he was diagnosed as having been stung by a scorpion lol we don’t have em in mountains of NC
Wtf that's insane, so happy I didn't get the shot, even if that meant not being able to go to the parties and not being able to cross the border. It was my fuck you to the systemmm, and I didn't trust mRNA, I don't even trusted gmo food and think it's dangerous to play god without wisdom
Yeah man. It just absolutely astounds me that anyone would believe we're anywhere near smart enough to tinker with our physiology at the genetic level. 'Hubris' doesn't even come close to describing it. I think the word 'insanity' is more apt to be honest, given we can't just start again if we fuck up our own genetic lineage.
When you combine that with no long-term safety data for these specific products. Again, it just astounds me. From where I'm standing it is really obvious. It's mental.
Droppersneck
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You think liberals would call her a conspiracy theorist to her face?
Jabberwocky
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Droppersneck
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She literally had these heart attacks within weeks of the shots, after being a 20 year old athlete with zero health issues lol
Jabberwocky
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Cognitive bias is fascinating to watch 1st hand
Droppersneck
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Lol you genuinely think her sudden major health issues are completely unrelated, her doctors are wrong.. cognitive bias may be an understatement.
Xorkoth
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I keep seeing these convincing pieces of media from youtube and shit that make me think the vaccines may be dangerous, but then I have to try to square that with the fact of the literally hundreds of people I personally know who got 3 (or more) doses of the vaccine, not one single person has had any negative reaction beyond a sore arm. It confuses me.
Droppersneck
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I keep seeing these convincing pieces of media from youtube and shit that make me think the vaccines may be dangerous, but then I have to try to square that with the fact of the literally hundreds of people I personally know who got 3 (or more) doses of the vaccine, not one single person has had any negative reaction beyond a sore arm. It confuses me.
anecdotal imo, my niece had to go to the ER for heart issues, friend got hashimotos, another former bluer got lupus. I genuinely hope that once the body clears the spike folx are in the clear. Only time will tell, too bad they don’t have any studies looking at this stuff.
anecdotal imo, my niece had to go to the ER for heart issues, friend got hashimotos, another former bluer got lupus. I genuinely hope that once the body clears the spike folx are in the clear. Only time will tell, too bad they don’t have any studies looking at this stuff.
The incidence of adverse effects is beyond doubt at this point. If it were any other vaccine it would have been stopped. The initial studies performed by the pharmaceutical companies only ensured there was no serious immediate dangers, that it wouldn't just kill entire swathes of people upon release - people were injured in these studies though.
I think the reason why some people have an almost immediate effect or in the very near short-term is because the product is not always staying local to the injection site. They hit a capillary, or it somehow gets into the bloodstream, and then immediately travels around the body and for whatever reason it seems to have an affiliation for the heart tissue (or perhaps all tissue).
This is not to say there won't be medium or long-term effects as well. The pharmaceutical companies claim the mRNA is degraded over a few days, which in itself seems ridiculous to me because some of that is surely liable to enter circulation.
But what if that is an assumption on their part? What if instead of a few days it's more like weeks? I already pointed out the thing about the Tetanus vaccine, that they literally pulled it out of their arse about needing it once every 10 years as per the expert and his research teams analysis. We've seen how they made claims about these covid jabs and over time those claims have simply been degraded by reality and shown, again, to be completely hatched from sheer cloth.
From an article I found. The underlined again.. is this a demonstrable fact, or just another assumption on their part? Have not been observed.. yet?
Reuters "Fact Check" - They are discussing the Swedish study that observed liver cells integrating the mRNA and converting it to DNA in petri dish experiments.
Fact check or not, this is the kind of research that should be done before a product is released, no? Russian roulette.
So basically Pfizer already knows about 1/5th of the vaccine accumulates in the liver (in mice) 30 minutes after injection. But we don't (yet) know if the mRNA then becomes integrated by liver cells (or indeed other cells around the body). That is a HUGE presumption to believe it doesn't. To have the gall to then 'fact check' and say it doesn't happen is just incredible.. how can it be a fact if they literally don't know because the research hasn't even been done!
It's propaganda. Public assurance, and assurance to stockholders of course.
If it is integrated and persists, which to me seems highly likely, then we should expect to see an increase an immune disorders, blood disorders, and whole range of health conditions over the coming years.
The big one is going to be fertility, if it is found to accumulate in the ovaries and testes. Prediction: We'll see the trend in fertility rates in about 5 years time, and we'll be too far along towards the 2030 reset and so demoralized at that point that no one will do a damn about it.
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wow what a lucky coincidence, those are all things that create a need to buy pharmaceutical products.
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