The Dive's Covid Thread

[Xorkoth]

There are also 364 marked as "unknown", so if, say, all of those were people with no vaccinations, or eve if a lot of them were, that would change things a lot.

Also, it could simply be that the vaccines have no effect on the chance of dying, but there are just WAY more people with all their boosters than there are people without them all. So it would look like the chance is higher with more vaccines, but if (for the sake of making the math simple), there are 810,000 people in Aus with 4+ doses, 377,000 with 3 doses, 218,000 with 2 doses, 10,000 with 1 dose, and some other small number with 0 doses, and those "unknowns" are mixed throughout... that would mean the chances are about the same for each group. I'm not saying that's the case, it sure looks bad. Just saying, you have to know the base sizes for those numbers to mean anything.

 

[Electrum1]

I checked out the page listed as the source, which does definitely exist, and some of the screen shots from Krinkle I found, but I've been looking and looking and can't find this chart. I did see that only 17% had not received 3 vaccinations (which doesn't say whether they had none, 1, or 2). Do you know exactly where that graph is? I decided I'm going to start looking to see if I can actually find all of these charts and graphs people are posting as proof. Because if they exist, it's pretty fucking damning, and I want to know. But it's also really easy to create something that looks real, which I would also want to know.

Though yeah, the one listed by Krinkle that shows 0 ICU admissions (but 6 deaths) from those with no vaccines is there, I see it, that's real. My only question is, for the sake of fully understanding... what is the percentage of people in Australia who are unvaccinated? Seems like they were much more draconian about enforcing the whole thing. So let's say 95% of people are fully vaccinated. Then the percentage chance of dying vaccinated vs unvaccinated is not accurately shown in that chart, because there is a smaller sample size for that group.

But yeah, way more ICU admissions and deaths when the number goes higher... that does not look good.

I think it's just a chart someone on twitter made using the Australian governments numbers

Here's the PDF where the image Krinkle posted is from

https://t.co/ei3GjPoJGi

 

[Electrum1]

This chart is from a Cleveland Clinic study

The risk of COVID-19 also varied by the number of COVID-19 vaccine doses previously received. The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID-19 (Figure 2).

Effectiveness of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Bivalent Vaccine

Background The purpose of this study was to evaluate whether a bivalent COVID-19 vaccine protects against COVID-19. Methods Employees of Cleveland Clinic in employment on the day the bivalent COVID-19 vaccine first became available to employees, were included. The cumulative incidence of...

www.medrxiv.org

 

[Electrum1]

From the same study:

The association of increased risk of COVID-19 with higher numbers of prior vaccine doses in our study, was unexpected. This is not the only study to find a possible association with more prior vaccine doses and higher risk of COVID-19.

 

[Droppersneck]

The most unfortunate part about all of this for vaxxies, is that there are no refunds. It’s simply not possible.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

 

[Electrum1]

4928 (62.1%) were included in the study. In total, 763 students (17.1%) had at least one cardiac symptom after the second vaccine dose, mostly chest pain and palpitations.

Changes of ECG parameters after BNT162b2 vaccine in the senior high school students - PubMed

The purpose of this study is to determine the ECG parameter change and the efficacy of ECG screening for cardiac adverse effect after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine in young population. In December 2021, in cooperation with the school vaccination system of Taipei City government, we...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[thujone]

I have friends that play the lottery and their justification to play in light of the poor odds is "well someone has to win".

These same geniuses go and take the vaccine with the same odds of serious side effects, without a hint of the irony.

 

[simstim]

Once again...
Covid 19!!!!!!

 

[alasdairm]

These same geniuses go and take the vaccine with the same odds of serious side effects

you're saying you believe the odds of serious side effects from taking the vaccine are millions, if not tens of millions, to one?

alasdair

 

[thujone]

I was actually thinking of those smaller lotteries where your odds of winning are 1/10000

 

[Las Veghost grower]

My nephews friend was found dead in his room last night, he was a totally healthy 15yr old that just dropped dead out of nowhere…they suppose to be doing an autopsy, but we all know why he’s dead

 

[PtahTek]

covid sill out there? lol
if i get on a bus i still wear a mask. only one.
fuckit dont need facial recognition anyway.
yall crazy
hey NR I think i meds time, right?

 

[PtahTek]

My nephews friend was found dead in his room last night, he was a totally healthy 15yr old that just dropped dead out of nowhere…they suppose to be doing an autopsy, but we all know why he’s dead

Damn.
From what I understand there is a lot of this going on in the younger gens. From fent to other causes.
Please if a tox-screen is done let us know the gist of it?
Sorry for your loss. I am.
One

 

[-=SS=-]

From what I understand there is a lot of this going on in the younger gens. From fent to other causes.

Really. Are you honestly insinuating you think it is more likely that fentanyl is the cause of an uptick in deaths in minors, than say a widely (and legally) available and prescribed medication. Christ, the mental gymnastics it even takes to consider that a legitimate argument.

Healthy minors dropping dead for no reason in detectable numbers in a short time frame immediately after a wide public health intervention. Why yes! It must be all the skag they're taking!

Aside from the fact that drug use has reportedly dropped in minors over the last half a decade, minors don't have tons of cash to indulge or the connections either. When I was 15 the best we could find would be mushrooms and cannabis. No one is taking the risk of selling harder shit to minors because it's not worth it.

 

[PtahTek]

From fent to other causes.

Google Scholar

scholar.google.com

Not saying covid could not be a factor. Very well could be as it seems everything post 2019 (or whatever) has been covid related wonder if we can retro-act on this and blame everything on covid, jabs or lack thereof.
Pointing to the facts that drug use is rising with our young (just like it did in our generation) yet the substances available today - that used to be almost harmless in our time - carry many times more likely risk regarding accidental OD.
I mean c'mon, dude.
Look around.

Are you honestly insinuating you think it is more likely that fentanyl is the cause of an uptick in deaths in minors, than say a widely (and legally) available and prescribed medication

Sure..."and other causes".
Problem seems to be that drug OD (and what is usually the most prominent proponent in OD deaths? ) in our young are in fact rising. Don't be intentionally blind to this, please as they learn these habits from us and us from our parents most times.
Kids (and others including veterans) also are "killed" by prescribed meds that has caused very serious side effects - usually multi-drug "stacks" is what we call 'em. Dont have to cite this I suppose. Do some homework or talk to your neighbor on this. It's fuckin bloody sad, imo/e.

Christ, the mental gymnastics it even takes to consider that a legitimate argument.

Maybe try this technique sometime we can even get ya as coiner of the above.
Would say that it was close to being worthy of sig but, meh....
Peace

minors don't have tons of cash to indulge or the connections either.

It's so cheap they practically give it away these days.
Not like ya had to have a job when we were young to support our beer and weed habits.

 

[Droppersneck]

I woke up this morning feeling blessed that I was a pure blood.

 

[-=SS=-]

Problem seems to be that drug OD (and what is usually the most prominent proponent in OD deaths? ) in our young are in fact rising. Don't be intentionally blind to this, please as they learn these habits from us and us from our parents most times. Kids (and others including veterans) also are "killed" by prescribed meds that has caused very serious side effects - usually multi-drug "stacks" is what we call 'em. Dont have to cite this I suppose. Do some homework or talk to your neighbor on this. It's fuckin bloody sad, imo/e

I'm not denying minors do die from OD's from illicit substances, or are killed by prescribed medication, only that attributing either of these to a rise in sudden inexplicable deaths of otherwise healthy minors is really stretching the limits of imagination. Let's not beat around the bush, we've just given lots of minors a medical product that has no medium or long-term safety profile in a very short space of time.. the connection is obvious.

Inexplicable deaths in healthy minors should not be experiencing a sudden rise in occurrence. There's only one real factor that has changed and we all know what it is.

It's as obvious as the sudden rise in athletes suffering cardiac events, some on live TV, and also all the news reporters all of a sudden seemingly collapsing or experiencing seizure like episodes live on TV. Or even that one example of the young female nurse, Tiffany Dover, who took a jab live on TV then collapsed during her interview some minutes later, and now no one can track down whether she is actually alive or not - no one is anonymous in this day and age, she's fucking dead as a doorknob and her family were blatantly paid/threatened to stay silent.

You can put it all down to coincidence if you like, or 'other causes', but I have a memory longer than 1 news cycle.. I can't bullshit myself because I remember my own lived experience. I don't recall ever seeing such a huge number of people collapsing in sport, on news casts, and children (and adults) suddenly dying for no apparent reason in such a condensed window of time.

It's beyond obvious. It's just denial at this point. People don't want to admit we've made a mistake, or they have personally, and that also potentially we've just been fucked over intentionally because the implications are horrific.

 

[Droppersneck]

Climate change takes another 17 year old, when will people finally allow the government to nationalize the energy sector so we can end this madness!

Ohio student dies of heart attack at 17…

Western Brown High School is mourning the loss of one of its students, who died after suffering a medical emergency Monday, school officials said. Superintendent Raegan White said Blaze Jaco…

citizenfreepress.com

 

[Electrum1]