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it’s just so batshit crazy to me that people actually think only a couple dozen people have died from the vaccine, are we living on the same planet ? Or maybe just different realities and BL is somehow a nexus for multiple dimensions….a couple dozen killed by the vaccine, fuck , I don’t even know what you call that
Maybe because every link you post about vaccines killing people is published by a website that also writes about how the moon landing is fake, Reptilian aliens, and how Ronald McDonald is a real person who sex trafficks midgets in exchange for cheese.

In a world of fake news, of which you often speak about, you seem to be quite one sided and oblivious on that issue.

Thanks Cucker Carlson.

Everyone thinks their own shit doesn't stink these days.
 
Maybe because every link you post about vaccines killing people is published by a website that also writes about how the moon landing is fake, Reptilian aliens and how Ronald McDonald is a real person who sex trafficks midgets in exchange for cheese.

In a world of fake news, of which you often speak about, you seem to be quite one sided and oblivious on that issue.

Thanks Cucker Carlson.
One day you will accept the truth, I know you will, cause eventually the companies that made this shit will have to fess up to the fact it’s causing a shipload of problems with people and it’s not all just a giant coincidence, how is the annual death rate up post vaccine , how ? Explain that to me when there is a less deadly dominant variant around ? How ?
 
One day you will accept the truth, I know you will, cause eventually the companies that made this shit will have to fess up to the fact it’s causing a shipload of problems with people and it’s not all just a giant coincidence, how is the annual death rate up post vaccine , how ?
Lol no they won't. They have the politicians in their pocket.

See, I agree with you on some things.

I also think UFOs are real.... but I draw the line on them abducting people to anally probe them.

Many UFO believers are crazy and have no filter on what they believe or how far the conspiracy goes.

My main gripe with antivaxxers is they have no ability to question their own beliefs or sources of information, nor do I think they possess even an inkling of humility to realize they may be wrong on some things.
 
One day you will accept the truth, I know you will, cause eventually the companies that made this shit will have to fess up to the fact it’s causing a shipload of problems with people and it’s not all just a giant coincidence, how is the annual death rate up post vaccine , how ? Explain that to me when there is a less deadly dominant variant around ? How ?
Ultimately they can’t, these are the individuals that barked at people to wear masks and trust the science. To accept that folx are dying from this experimental therapy, is to admit they are wrong. Wing nuts in general aren’t capable of this, and when you factor in the smug levels of the average ny times reading science truster, it’s just too much.
 
Ultimately they can’t, these are the individuals that barked at people to wear masks and trust the science. To accept that folx are dying from this experimental therapy, is to admit they are wrong. Wing nuts in general aren’t capable of this, and when you factor in the smug levels of the average ny times reading science truster, it’s just too much.
Makes no sense to me, I would think the number of deaths going up by as much as they are should be the “ahha” moment for most people, but I guess anything short of a official statement from a government agency just won’t do
 
I swear if I hear the word coincidence or someone insinuate a coincidence one more time I’m going to straight up shit in my pants, and just leave it there all day squishing around
 

Cardiologist: Spike Proteins Generated by COVID-19 Vaccines Are 'Toxic' to Heart​


A pediatric cardiologist says that it’s now clear from all of the available evidence that the spike proteins the COVID-19 vaccines tell the body to make are toxic to the heart, and that myocarditis in young people is not as rare as the CDC and FDA have led Americans to believe.

In a lecture on Aug. 26, Dr. Kirk Milhoan said the harm to the heart caused by the spike proteins is an “inconvenient truth.”

“We know that the spike protein is cardio-toxic. [It’s] very clear that it is cardio-toxic,” he said.

Milhoan, a board-certified pediatric cardiologist, based his conclusion on data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and several recently published studies on myocarditis. He believes that myocarditis caused by the COVID-19 vaccines is not as rare as the government has led Americans to believe.

“We’re seeing something that we haven’t seen before,” he said on Aug. 26 at the Gateway to Freedom Conference in Collinsville, Ill. “We haven’t seen a vaccine cause this level of myocarditis. It’s not one here or one there. It is a large number of people getting myocarditis from this vaccine.”

Myocarditis, defined as inflammation of the heart muscle, is one of the only serious vaccine side effects that has been recognized publicly by the FDA and CDC, with the most recent guidance from the CDC repeating what the agency has said since 2021, that there is only a “rare” risk of myocarditis and pericarditis that has been observed after one of the mRNA vaccines.

Pericarditis is inflammation of the lining of the heart.

“Rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have occurred most frequently, although not exclusively, in adolescent and young adult males within the first week after receiving the second dose or a booster dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine,” a CDC advisory dating back to May 2021 states.

In his Aug. 26 talk, Milhoan said the evidence shows that infection with SARS-CoV-2 likely results in the smallest exposure to the spike protein. In contrast, the mRNA vaccines cause the body to produce spike proteins for an unknown period, perhaps indefinitely.

The damage to the heart from myocarditis can be overlooked, he said, pointing to a study published in The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). The study looked at Big Ten college athletes with a recent COVID-19 diagnosis and found that 37 out of 1,597 of the athletes studied were shown to have myocarditis when cardiovascular magnetic resonance (CMR) imaging was done. Only half showed any heart issues with other testing methods, including electrocardiograms and measuring troponin levels.

Looking at heart issues related to the vaccines, he cited a recent peer-reviewed study of 301 adolescents aged 13-18 from two schools in Thailand who got a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

Baseline echocardiography and cardiac enzyme data were collected before the second dose of the vaccine was administered and collected again on the third, seventh, and 14th day after the teens received the second dose of the vaccine.

Of the 301 teenagers, almost 8 percent had tachycardia (rapid heartbeat) after the second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 7 percent had shortness of breath, 4 percent had heart palpitations, 4 percent had chest pains, and 4 percent had hypertension.

Altogether, cardiovascular issues were found in 29 percent of the teenagers. Two had suspected pericarditis, and four had suspected “subclinical myocarditis.” One had a confirmed case of myopericarditis.

In a third study Milhoan cited, from Denmark, a second dose of the Moderna vaccine appeared to result in a dramatically higher rate of myocarditis and pericarditis than the first doses of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines or a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

The study involved 4,931,771 people aged 12 and up who were monitored for 28 days after vaccination. During the follow-up, 269 participants developed myocarditis or myopericarditis, 73 percent of them males.

Of the 3,482,295 people who received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 48 developed myocarditis or myopericarditis within 28 days, 1.4 per every 100,000 people, when compared to a baseline rate of unvaccinated people.

Of the 498,814 people who received the Moderna vaccine, 21 developed myocarditis or myopericarditis, a rate of 4.2 per every 100,000 people.

“That’s a very interesting story because the Pfizer product has about one-third of the mRNA that the body uses to produce the spike protein,” said Milhoan. “The Moderna has about three times as much.”

He said this “suggests a causation, not just a correlation.”

On Aug. 31, the FDA announced that it had authorized for emergency use the new bivalent booster vaccines (targeting the latest omicron subvariants and also the original virus) for people ages 12 and up for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 18 and up for the Moderna vaccine.

The CDC approved the vaccines on Sept. 1 following a presentation reviewing safety data from VAERS, V-SAFE, a smartphone-based reporting tool, and the Vaccine Safety Data Link (VSD), which includes data from several large health maintenance organizations in the United States.

While the FDA and CDC have often referred to many myocarditis cases after vaccination as “mild,” Milhoan said this word is often taken out of context by government regulators.

“Is there such a thing as mild myocarditis? Yes, there is,” he said. “When a patient gets admitted to the ICU, we do an echocardiogram, we look at labs, we look at additional studies, and we say, ‘Does this look like a mild case, a moderate case, or a severe case?’”

The mild category, he said, is a term that doctors use for comparison with more severe cases where a heart transplant might be needed.

“What I explain to families, though,” he said, “if your child needs to go to the pediatric ICU (intensive care unit), that does not seem mild to you, even though I might call it mild.”

According to the website OpenVAERS, there were 8,756 reports from the United States of myocarditis and pericarditis following a COVID-19 vaccination as of Aug. 26.

At a Sept. 1 meeting of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, CDC employee Tom Shimabukuro said that there have been 188.2 confirmed myocarditis cases per 1 million doses of the vaccines administered to males aged 12-39.

The age group with the highest number of cases confirmed by the CDC was males aged 16-17, with 78.7 cases of myocarditis per every 1 million doses of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.

“It’s not ethical to give a vaccine to a child and give them myocarditis if they may not have gotten myocarditis from a natural infection or if they have already been infected,” Milhoan told the audience on Aug. 26, referring to the Hippocratic Oath: “First, do no harm.”

“The question is, why would we be putting children at risk if their risk from COVID is very low?” he asked.
 

Cardiologist: Spike Proteins Generated by COVID-19 Vaccines Are 'Toxic' to Heart​


A pediatric cardiologist says that it’s now clear from all of the available evidence that the spike proteins the COVID-19 vaccines tell the body to make are toxic to the heart, and that myocarditis in young people is not as rare as the CDC and FDA have led Americans to believe.

In a lecture on Aug. 26, Dr. Kirk Milhoan said the harm to the heart caused by the spike proteins is an “inconvenient truth.”

“We know that the spike protein is cardio-toxic. [It’s] very clear that it is cardio-toxic,” he said.

Milhoan, a board-certified pediatric cardiologist, based his conclusion on data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and several recently published studies on myocarditis. He believes that myocarditis caused by the COVID-19 vaccines is not as rare as the government has led Americans to believe.

“We’re seeing something that we haven’t seen before,” he said on Aug. 26 at the Gateway to Freedom Conference in Collinsville, Ill. “We haven’t seen a vaccine cause this level of myocarditis. It’s not one here or one there. It is a large number of people getting myocarditis from this vaccine.”

Myocarditis, defined as inflammation of the heart muscle, is one of the only serious vaccine side effects that has been recognized publicly by the FDA and CDC, with the most recent guidance from the CDC repeating what the agency has said since 2021, that there is only a “rare” risk of myocarditis and pericarditis that has been observed after one of the mRNA vaccines.

Pericarditis is inflammation of the lining of the heart.

“Rare cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have occurred most frequently, although not exclusively, in adolescent and young adult males within the first week after receiving the second dose or a booster dose of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine,” a CDC advisory dating back to May 2021 states.

In his Aug. 26 talk, Milhoan said the evidence shows that infection with SARS-CoV-2 likely results in the smallest exposure to the spike protein. In contrast, the mRNA vaccines cause the body to produce spike proteins for an unknown period, perhaps indefinitely.

The damage to the heart from myocarditis can be overlooked, he said, pointing to a study published in The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA). The study looked at Big Ten college athletes with a recent COVID-19 diagnosis and found that 37 out of 1,597 of the athletes studied were shown to have myocarditis when cardiovascular magnetic resonance (CMR) imaging was done. Only half showed any heart issues with other testing methods, including electrocardiograms and measuring troponin levels.

Looking at heart issues related to the vaccines, he cited a recent peer-reviewed study of 301 adolescents aged 13-18 from two schools in Thailand who got a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

Baseline echocardiography and cardiac enzyme data were collected before the second dose of the vaccine was administered and collected again on the third, seventh, and 14th day after the teens received the second dose of the vaccine.

Of the 301 teenagers, almost 8 percent had tachycardia (rapid heartbeat) after the second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 7 percent had shortness of breath, 4 percent had heart palpitations, 4 percent had chest pains, and 4 percent had hypertension.

Altogether, cardiovascular issues were found in 29 percent of the teenagers. Two had suspected pericarditis, and four had suspected “subclinical myocarditis.” One had a confirmed case of myopericarditis.

In a third study Milhoan cited, from Denmark, a second dose of the Moderna vaccine appeared to result in a dramatically higher rate of myocarditis and pericarditis than the first doses of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines or a second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

The study involved 4,931,771 people aged 12 and up who were monitored for 28 days after vaccination. During the follow-up, 269 participants developed myocarditis or myopericarditis, 73 percent of them males.

Of the 3,482,295 people who received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, 48 developed myocarditis or myopericarditis within 28 days, 1.4 per every 100,000 people, when compared to a baseline rate of unvaccinated people.

Of the 498,814 people who received the Moderna vaccine, 21 developed myocarditis or myopericarditis, a rate of 4.2 per every 100,000 people.

“That’s a very interesting story because the Pfizer product has about one-third of the mRNA that the body uses to produce the spike protein,” said Milhoan. “The Moderna has about three times as much.”

He said this “suggests a causation, not just a correlation.”

On Aug. 31, the FDA announced that it had authorized for emergency use the new bivalent booster vaccines (targeting the latest omicron subvariants and also the original virus) for people ages 12 and up for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and 18 and up for the Moderna vaccine.

The CDC approved the vaccines on Sept. 1 following a presentation reviewing safety data from VAERS, V-SAFE, a smartphone-based reporting tool, and the Vaccine Safety Data Link (VSD), which includes data from several large health maintenance organizations in the United States.

While the FDA and CDC have often referred to many myocarditis cases after vaccination as “mild,” Milhoan said this word is often taken out of context by government regulators.

“Is there such a thing as mild myocarditis? Yes, there is,” he said. “When a patient gets admitted to the ICU, we do an echocardiogram, we look at labs, we look at additional studies, and we say, ‘Does this look like a mild case, a moderate case, or a severe case?’”

The mild category, he said, is a term that doctors use for comparison with more severe cases where a heart transplant might be needed.

“What I explain to families, though,” he said, “if your child needs to go to the pediatric ICU (intensive care unit), that does not seem mild to you, even though I might call it mild.”

According to the website OpenVAERS, there were 8,756 reports from the United States of myocarditis and pericarditis following a COVID-19 vaccination as of Aug. 26.

At a Sept. 1 meeting of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, CDC employee Tom Shimabukuro said that there have been 188.2 confirmed myocarditis cases per 1 million doses of the vaccines administered to males aged 12-39.

The age group with the highest number of cases confirmed by the CDC was males aged 16-17, with 78.7 cases of myocarditis per every 1 million doses of the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines.

“It’s not ethical to give a vaccine to a child and give them myocarditis if they may not have gotten myocarditis from a natural infection or if they have already been infected,” Milhoan told the audience on Aug. 26, referring to the Hippocratic Oath: “First, do no harm.”

“The question is, why would we be putting children at risk if their risk from COVID is very low?” he asked.
Even those numbers seem suspect to me…who ran the study and collected the data ?
 
i keep coming back, it's like a dumster fire i can't turn away from. beautiful blue and green flames from the bronze bull turds.

The CDC link where I got it is in my post
still waiting for your reason for posting that in the context of you and i discussing ifr for under 18s and under 5s.

again... what do you believe it proves? cause it certainly didn't refute what i was saying.
@nepalnt21

There's no point. They've been doing this for two years. You're not going to change anyone's mind. Everybody else has given up. Just leave them to it.
i'm not gonna change their minds, probably not... but what about lurkers?

somebody has to fight against the dangerous misinformation that confidentally incorrect people (such as lvg) post on here.

If you're young and healthy and you want to jab yourself, you're crazy
why? that's like saying it's crazy to bet on the 1996 chicago bulls if they were playing against danny devito
 
still waiting for your reason for posting that in the context of you and i discussing ifr for under 18s and under 5s.
What are you talking about? I posted the deaths for 0-4 year olds compared to older children above those ages, in response to your comment about infants. The numbers I posted are from the CDC
 
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you do know what “ifr” means, right?

infected fatality rate, which is more informative than overall deaths for those ages.

also, did you happen to notice how the ages were grouped in the info you gave?
 
you do know what “ifr” means, right?

infected fatality rate, which is more informative than overall deaths for those ages.

also, did you happen to notice how the ages were grouped in the info you gave?
Then explain how the death rate is up, I’m still waiting for one of you vax queens to own that shit, your a moron bud, your not fighting anything but reality…you realize you haven’t posted a link to anything to prove your claims, your pretty much plugging your ears and shouting “the vax is safe cause that’s what Iv been told” like a fucking child
 
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can we say gawwd in here, i forgot !

Doctor's are baffled by the the death numbers ascent
And seem to be suffering from a form of Bafflement.

Surely, it must be SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome)
Claim doctor's affected by BDS (Baffled Doctor Syndrome).

Government as well, baffled by the increase in heart attacks
Seem to be afflicted by BABTV (Blame anything but the Vaxx).

Scientist say "Trust The Science & Don't Even Ask!"
Are pushing SUAPOYM (Shup Up And Put On Your Mask).

Many will understand what's behind all this Bafflement
Surely at work is the spirit of that ole serpent.

God Bless and Jesus Saves!!
 
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