The Dive's Covid Thread

[bird.is.the.word]

You're almost certainly less likely to die the second time you get COVID, if you get mild symptoms from COVID the first time. If you get COVID 2-3x a year, you'd be extremely unlikely to die (I assume) because you haven't already died.

I've had the virus twice now and had mild symptoms both times so I have no interest in getting vaccinated again. I've established that this virus isn't a threat. I'm not concerned about it.

Odds don't neatly accumulate. My odds of death were never 0.66% to begin with, but (even if they were) the next time they wouldn't be 0.66% + 0.66% and so on and so forth. If that was the case, you'd eventually have a 100.32% chance of dying assuming that you were miraculously still alive up to that point.

I think that chart is very valuable as it puts a number like 0.5% in perspective.

It's misleading. COVID isn't comparably deadly to cancer. They're not putting things in perspective. They're taking them out of context. COVID is very contagious, but it's not very deadly.

Look at the <1 category. The flu is more dangerous than COVID for babies. So do we forcibly vaccinate everyone against influenza to protect babies? No. Why not?

I'm also very sceptical about the numbers, particularly with younger demographics.

I'm not convinced any babies have died from COVID. It is such an extremely rare event.

 

[Fire&Water]

Just listen to GillBates !

he's a medical expert & unparalleled farmer ...

 

[Fire&Water]

... Oh
and listen to ManBearPig
about the environment

he claimed it would stop snowing by 2010 !

 

[Xorkoth]

I really have no idea why they're pushing that so hard. Probably just pharma companies trying to maximize profits.

yeah, like everything, corporations try to maximize profits. It's even possible the whole time that's what it was. That's as far as I'd speculate as far as a conspiracy goes. I don't think that was the intent, it worked quite well against the alpha strain it was designed for. But I'm quite sure they also intended the whole time to make as much money as possible. Nothing new there. At this point it seems clear that is the reason for the continued push. It's deplorable, but nothing new, and not unexpected. The darker conspiracies about them trying to kill us or what have you, I don't buy. I think it's about money, bottom line, nothing more, nothing less.

I've had the virus twice now and had mild symptoms both times so I have no interest in getting vaccinated again. I've established that this virus isn't a threat. I'm not concerned about it.

Same. Although the first time I got pretty damn sick. The second time was like a moderate cold that went away faster than most colds do. Once I established that the vaccine doesn't stop me from getting or transmitting omicron, I decided no more for me. Not because I think my blood isn't pure anymore or I'm gonna suddenly get super AIDS and I've had a new operating system uploaded into my brain by nanobots, but just because there's no point and I would rather not take the risk for no reason. As much as I think the vaccine isn't some vast conspiracy to kill us off, there is still risk involved. I deemed it an acceptable risk early on, but it no longer is. I got boosted and one month later, I caught omicron. So yeah, nope.

My girlfriend will probably try to get me to get boosted again if they start pushing for a 4th dose. At which point I will maybe have to lie, because she's so intense about covid. Meh

 

[-=SS=-]

It's even possible the whole time that's what it was. That's as far as I'd speculate as far as a conspiracy goes. I don't think that was the intent, it worked quite well against the alpha strain it was designed for. But I'm quite sure they also intended the whole time to make as much money as possible. Nothing new there. At this point it seems clear that is the reason for the continued push. It's deplorable, but nothing new, and not unexpected. The darker conspiracies about them trying to kill us or what have you, I don't buy. I think it's about money, bottom line, nothing more, nothing less.

I think this is a bit of rationalization. Money is certainly part of the equation but it can't be all of it. All of the effort that has gone into this globally coordinated charade, plus the risk of overplaying their hand.. I don't think this would have been done unless they really needed to ram something through. It's just too much to only be about money. The sheer desperation to get this stuff into everyone. This desperation to get it into children who absolutely do not need it.. that is a massive red flag. Pharma already has their billions because governments pre-paid for it all, so why force the issue and target children if it will turn people off next time? It doesn't add up.

Having Bill Gates front and centre is suspect. Not because he's a flabby computer salesman, not because of his family connections to eugenics and Rockefeller, but because he's out front and centre. Clearly there's an intention there to use him as a fall guy, in the same way Klaus Schwab (WEF) is now people's focus and not those who bankrolled people like his father and the Nazi's.

I'm leaning towards depopulation and/or sterilization, under the guise of the climate emergency, and that the majority of the upper crust (political, intel, military, etc) have been told that this is what needs to happen to save the planet. They've been brainwashed into the global scientific dictatorship conspiracy and actually believe in it. I would not be surprised if there is also multiple objectives/constituents in the jabs too. The military/intel have been toying around with tech since the 60's, with the ultimate goal being total mind control of adversaries, and the WEF make absolutely no secret of the 'transhumanism' goals either. If there is something malicious in the jabs, it's going to cause societal breakdown when it becomes undeniable.. so either they want chaos, or they have a means to buffer it (mind control), or perhaps they'll try and play it off as 'industrial accident'.

Or it could be absolutely nothing.

But all the known history, when you piece it all together.. it doesn't look good.

 

[bird.is.the.word]

The sheer desperation to get this stuff into everyone. This desperation to get it into children who absolutely do not need it.. that is a massive red flag. Pharma already has their billions because governments pre-paid for it all, so why force the issue and target children if it will turn people off next time? It doesn't add up.

They were desperate to vaccinate in Australia because the health advisers said we had to do that in order to open up and we were losing bucket loads of money by the second.

Vaccinating children doesn't seem desperate. Not in Australia, anyway. They're lying, but they aren't pushing it very hard. If your kids don't want to get vaccinated, they don't have to. There's never been a mandate that I'm aware of.

I'm honestly not sure why they're vaccinating children at all. I don't understand the logic. It said in the paper the other day "toddler dies of COVID". I didn't bother reading the article. I just assumed it was bullshit. Kids aren't dying of COVID... but they aren't dying from vaccines either.

Neither the vaccines or the virus are particularly deadly. If you deflate the hype surrounding both of them, there's not much left over to worry about.

Maybe they're jabbing kids because the Australian government bought too many vaccines and now they need to use them before they expire?

As much as I think the vaccine isn't some vast conspiracy to kill us off, there is still risk involved. I deemed it an acceptable risk early on, but it no longer is. I got boosted and one month later, I caught omicron.

Yeah, I got omicron about a month after my booster too. It's not at all clear to me which is more dangerous: the virus or the vaccine. I'm leaning towards the vaccine being more dangerous.

 

[-=SS=-]

Vaccinating children doesn't seem desperate. Not in Australia, anyway. They're lying, but they aren't pushing it very hard. If your kids don't want to get vaccinated, they don't have to. There's never been a mandate that I'm aware of.

I'm honestly not sure why they're vaccinating children at all. I don't understand the logic. It said in the paper the other day "toddler dies of COVID". I didn't bother reading the article. I just assumed it was bullshit. Kids aren't dying of COVID... but they aren't dying from vaccines either.

These two sentences are contradictory though. You admit, as most sane people have done, that they can't understand the need to jab kids given the official data shows they are at absolutely no risk what so ever.

It's not 'vaccinating' when it doesn't stop you from catching, getting, or transmitting. It's therapy. Gene therapy. And experimental gene therapy at that because there is no long term safety data for these particular concoctions, despite all the propaganda claiming it's 'safe and effective'. No, the fact is we don't know. They have been approved via emergency use authorization, and no one really knows if there will be any medium or long term damage. So, to also say 'they're not particularly deadly/dangerous' is disingenuous.. we do not know at this point for sure.

Even a fool can understand that putting an experimental gene 'therapeutic' into children who are at zero risk is nothing but total lunacy. What kind of monster gambles the fate of their child's health like that? We are hardwired to protect our children, it's one of natures strongest programs in all animal life! At the very least it speaks about the complete moral failure of our society. At no point should it have ever gotten off the ground as an idea. There is no squaring that circle. I don't care if you're a layman or a politician, if you possess your humanity and have an IQ over 25 then you would shoot it down immediately. Case closed.

Are we to believe multiple layers of the system, from politicians, to health ministers and chiefs, to mainstream media, are all willing to play that game of their own volition? Are they all really just that morally bankrupt? Or has the issue been forced from above? For me it is just so brazen given it contradicts their own data that it has to have been forced.. it is just too monstrous.

 

[bird.is.the.word]

@-=SS=-

I think you're being a bit dramatic. So, they're jabbing some kids. I'm not saying I agree with it but worse things have happened. It doesn't strike me as outrageous in the context of human history. If the vaccines were killing kids or something, then monstrous would be the right word. As far as I'm concerned, the responsibility lies almost entirely on the parents who decide to jab their kids. I honestly don't care what people do with their kids. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I don't know why you care so much. Do you even have kids?

Weirdly, in Australia they don't recommend fourth dose vaccines for those between the age of 30 and 50... but they keep running ads on the radio encouraging kids to have all three jabs.

It's been over 7 months since my last (and final) jab. The government clearly knows the jab isn't good for me, otherwise they'd recommend I have another jab. They can't do that until their health advisers recommend it. It's really these doctors working for the feds that are pulling the strings... and they are just trying not to get fired and/or sued, just like everyone else.

I don't look at this pandemic and conclude a sophisticated conspiracy.

I conclude the opposite. We are all a bunch of inefficient morons.

Nobody knows shit.

 

[-=SS=-]

I think you're being a bit dramatic. So, they're jabbing some kids. I'm not saying I agree with it but worse things have happened. It doesn't strike me as outrageous in the context of human history. If the vaccines were killing kids or something, then monstrous would be the right word. As far as I'm concerned, the responsibility lies almost entirely on the parents who decide to jab their kids. I honestly don't care what people do with their kids. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I don't know why you care so much. Do you even have kids?

No, I really don't think it is dramatic at all. I think it is completely rational and well justified concern given the information we have.

These are experimental gene therapies that children don't need and generally can't refuse if the parents demand it. We're not talking about eating vegetables. Sophisticated genetic meddling technology that has no long term safety data.. that is serious business. Not just for the child but potentially for their children in the future too. Even if we assume there wasn't anything malicious added to these jabs, the experimental nature of it, the fact the material clearly doesn't stay local to the injection site.. that is some seriously risky shit. If you eat a duff vegetable you'll throw it up, but if your body integrates genetic code that it shouldn't then you have absolutely no options at all.

Yes responsibility lies with the parents, but there is responsibility on everyone else involved as well. From the injecting party all the way up the chain. They're all culpable for this. They should all understand the risks of this play.

I don't have children. I couldn't give a fuck what adults decide to do to themselves if they're presented with information and they choose to ignore it, but children are vulnerable and have no power in a world of adults. If it doesn't irk you in the slightest then there's something wrong with you pal, not me.

 

[bird.is.the.word]

We're not talking about eating vegetables.

I'm sorry. I thought I was in the cabbage thread.

If it doesn't irk you in the slightest then there's something wrong with you pal, not me.

Does there have to be something wrong with either of us?

Children face much bigger problems than their parents consenting COVID jabs. My concern for the welfare of children isn't overwhelmed with thoughts about jabbing. As far as we know, it's basically harmless.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

it's the whole thing

vaccinating babies like it's a good idea - ever

we went from sids to sads


i mean what the fuck is going on here?

why do we need to hear over and over that Biden also took a round of Paxlovid - by name - instead of "he took a round of anti-virals"


ya know what i mean?

and ppl act like it's no big deal, to inject yourself with mass made who knows what


fuck you man don't tell me not to worry about it

 

[Las Veghost grower]

“Don’t worry about it” famous last words…”it’s no big deal” until it is

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

People who have never gotten COVID even after exposure share their stories

With the BA.5 variant running wild in California, it seems like nearly everyone has had a brush with COVID. But there are exceptions- people who have never ever gotten COVID despite some close calls.

abc7news.com

and then when there's ppl who don't catch it, they call it a miracle


"For people out there who have still not gotten COVID, it's a combination of what their community looks like, their close contacts, their work environment, their level of protection and luck," explained UCSF's Dr. Alok Patel. "There is some research out there that says it's genetic but there's nothing definitive about that yet."


Luck

 

[Las Veghost grower]

Had to take my niece to the doctor last night I think she has pink eye, got eye drops for her and the dr. Said just keep alternating Motrin and advil, she is in a really bad mood cause she dosent feel well but hopefully by tomorrow she’s starting to come around

 

[Electrum1]

 

[Fire&Water]

Had to take my niece to the doctor last night I think she has pink eye, got eye drops for her and the dr. Said just keep alternating Motrin and advil, she is in a really bad mood cause she dosent feel well but hopefully by tomorrow she’s starting to come around

whats his idea behind taking two brands of ibuprofen?

 

[Las Veghost grower]

whats his idea behind taking two brands of ibuprofen?

I dunno I guess the alternating back n forth helps keep them working better than just taking one repeatedly, but luckily she got up a hour or so ago and fever is finally gone and she’s feeling better, also the medicine for her eye has reduced the swelling a lot, this morning her eye was pretty much swollen shut

 

[Fire&Water]

I dunno I guess the alternating back n forth helps keep them working better than just taking one repeatedly, but luckily she got up a hour or so ago and fever is finally gone and she’s feeling better, also the medicine for her eye has reduced the swelling a lot, this morning her eye was pretty much swollen shut

... awesome

 

[Las Veghost grower]

... awesome

Yea i was gettin kinda worried for a minute, and I ment Tylenol not advil…but once again us unvaxxed get sick for a couple days and get better, like a typical flu or cold, I’m just waiting for the symptoms to start hitting me, I’m sure they comming

 

[Fire&Water]

Yea i was gettin kinda worried for a minute, and I ment Tylenol not advil…but once again us unvaxxed get sick for a couple days and get better, like a typical flu or cold, I’m just waiting for the symptoms to start hitting me, I’m sure they comming

Ahhh that makes sense ...

you probably wont
I think my wife had it for a week or so (neither of us are concerned about the testing bullshit)
but yeah, kids are a different story
I never felt a sniffle