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causes like corruption in government, poisons like flouride which are forced upon us, bombing other countries and lying to get public support, the continued slave mentality (
I did, just not in this forum,
my country is one of the most corrupted in Europe and I almost hate my country just for how it works, I've been living for years doing political activism without a real output of it, basically because people are so lazy and/or coward, and they are so tired and/or faithless.
I do not believe that much can be done, or maybe yes, but not counting on the general public, at least that is the impression that I have been left with after the experience, of years.

It is quite clear to me why we have to expose yourself with the issue of vaccines, it is the most terrible scandal that has occurred in the history of mankind, I do not think anything can compare, the incredible thing is that such a number of people who fail to see the implication that has to have (or had, if you prefer) poisoned a good part of the population.



what's exactly the reason to have such incredible excess mortality in younger people (0- 65) in 2021 if the virus was barely lethal in those groups? what's the main event that happent during 2021 that didn't happen in other years?
 
This sounds all fancy and stuff, I've read it before, and I'm not convinced.

"They're not wasting bullets"... this is where you lose me and everything goes in one ear and out the other. Population control... really? Intentional genocide? Come on... why do all the elites get the vaccine, then?

If you just left it at "they fucked up and maybe the vaccines are harmful" instead of "they're intentionally trying to wipe out everyone with this vaccine that destroys your immune system", then I might actually believe a bit of it.

Confirmation bias is insanely out of whack when it comes to covid vaccine conspiracies. People have no filters or credibility checking on all the "connections" they make.



I literally posted a link twice showing that thousands of elites were NOT getting the vaccine. They paid money to get injected with saline and placed on the register. They got busted. Why are you denying reality?
 
I literally posted a link twice showing that thousands of elites were NOT getting the vaccine. They paid money to get injected with saline and placed on the register. They got busted. Why are you denying reality?
And even if it was a "vaccine" and not saline...
are they so incredibly idiotic to inject themselves with something potentially dangerous? if you're "in the game" you can pull the strings enough to care about which vials are going to end up in your bloodstream.

Imagine, to do the opposite would be like being Elon Musk and go to out in the street of some slum to search whatever drug dealer comes up to offer you the fix. Wow, it would be just grotesque.
 
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I could not assure you 100% that that hypothesis is the truth (as it would be unscientific)
well, respect, that's at least being a lot more honest than most others here

it needs to be seriously checked, which is not being done
not true at all



anyways I don't want to get drawn into this debate again, sorry man, it's a dead horse

didn't mean to insinuate anything about your intelligence, just being blunt because I'm really tired of this topic
 
I literally posted a link twice showing that thousands of elites were NOT getting the vaccine. They paid money to get injected with saline and placed on the register. They got busted. Why are you denying reality?
was it a facebook post? some sketchy right wing website? youtube again?

you don't post the best sources my friend

also by "elites" I'm talking about politicians and the ruling class, not celebrities

hell even Trump got vaccinated
 
well, respect, that's at least being a lot more honest than most others here


not true at all



anyways I don't want to get drawn into this debate again, sorry man, it's a dead horse

didn't mean to insinuate anything about your intelligence, just being blunt because I'm really tired of this topic
So fuck off out the thread then?

You're not even able to process information it seems.

They got busted by the police
 
well, respect, that's at least being a lot more honest than most others here


not true at all



anyways I don't want to get drawn into this debate again, sorry man, it's a dead horse

didn't mean to insinuate anything about your intelligence, just being blunt because I'm really tired of this topic
Believe me that I know quite well what they are doing and what they are not, well, at least I did till several months ago when I needed to stop investigating to start and incredibly boring master's degree I needed to do.


here you can see PART of what I was trying to explain, mostly talking about the virus and one of the vaccine, consider this a favour because I'm really running out of time and need to do loads of stuff before going to bed. To go further and show you the mind-path to understand how it happens with the spike protein will take me too long, incredibly complicated thing to do at the moment.

Here you can see some of the papers of those don't "believe" that hypothesis, surely they believe much more in the cancer vaccines and immunology cancer treatments they are studying for cancer therapy, got me? It's quite clear to see, science is like politics, I think in some aspects even more repulsive and vile, once you understand what moves in their "intellectual discussions".


As you can see I perfectly know what's going on with this, so maybe if I don't know 100% what's going on I could, at least, talk about it with solid reasons and honestly, that's all I want.
As you don't want to keep talking about this, ok, let's leave it here. There's surely more data about the hypothesis, pros-cons and all, but people should do their best to get on the boat of research if they like, it's open to everyone.
 
@Neuroborean if this is a conspiracy to kill everyone for population control why is all this information publicly accessible? 🤔

I dunno man, I just express very basic logical doubts about things and theories which seems to piss a lot of people off here.

I love conspiracies, I truly do, huge conspiracy and mystery nerd. But from everything I've seen nobody has provided a good, cohesive covid conspiracy or any corresponding good evidence of anything other than potential minor risks of vaccines (which are less than the risks of unvaccinated covid infection).

If this is population control they are doing a comically horrible job at it and failing miserably all while leaving all the "evidence" in plain view.
 
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@Neuroborean if this is a conspiracy to kill everyone for population control why is all this information publicly accessible? 🤔
Come on, that information is scientific discussion is not exactly "publicly accesible", you can hide everything to some person, you can hide something to everyone but you cannot hide everything to everyone all the time..
But for some people, if it's not said by the Government and in the media, it doesn't exist. and you know, that papers point to somewhere, but doesn't completely show that somewhere, that somewhere is a weaving of events and realities that are discovered little by little, part by part (and that's how it always is, isn't it?)
so eventually the truth comes out, it takes time, this is what's happening, slow unveiling, is not "easy and simple", if it was it would be a very bad work. This is very fine work, done by the best among the best, and they are quiet, as those in the Trinity testing, they were thousands of people, and no one talked.
 
Come on, that information is scientific discussion is not exactly "publicly accesible"
Pubmed is the definition of a public database that is publicly accessible. It's indexed by Google...

It's also run by the USA government.. (The ones trying to kill everyone?)

Why would they allow this information out to the public on their own website if they're trying to kill everyone? 🤔
 
Pubmed is the definition of a public database that is publicly accessible.

It's also run by the USA government.. (The ones trying to kill everyone?)

Why would they allow this information out to the public on their own website if they're trying to kill everyone? 🤔
Man,
I explained it quite clearly:
1- to be public doesn't mean that everyone goes into it for reading, only researchers and you need to know what you're searching, otherwise you don't find it.
2- people want to believe in what the Government, the "good and fancy" experts on TV say, and that's all, to research on their own or listen to the "weak and ridiculed" is not trendy enough...
3- all that information is not information they let out shouting, is information that could lead to the truth but it's not yet the truth cause the truth is the entire picture, and the entire picture takes a lot of time to be composed, specially if the way you want to prove it is scientific
4- that information is impossible to hide, because are just scientific facts that can be discovered, you cannot control everyone in the planet, you just need to control those who are going to affect most people, the masses, already explained in point 2.


Truth takes time
 
Man,
I explained it quite clearly:
1- to be public doesn't mean that everyone goes into it for reading, only researchers and you need to know what you're searching, otherwise you don't find it.
2- people want to believe in what the Government, the "good and fancy" experts on TV say, and that's all, to research on their own or listen to the "weak and ridiculed" is not trendy enough...
3- all that information is not information they let out shouting, is information that could lead to the truth but it's not yet the truth cause the truth is the entire picture, and the entire picture takes a lot of time to be composed, specially if the way you want to prove it is scientific
4- that information is impossible to hide, because are just scientific facts that can be discovered, you cannot control everyone in the planet, you just need to control those who are going to affect most people, the masses, already explained in point 2.

I completely understand what you are saying.... there's just a lot of glaring holes in your theory. That's what you aren't taking from what I'm saying.

You're jumping over logical canyons without even mentioning the canyon exists, using one long rope stretching from one conspiracy to the next.

I have a difficult time following it through without pointing out and answering the obvious logical canyons.

Truth takes time

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have a difficult time following it through without pointing out and answering the obvious logical canyons.
I also explained this, I cannot help you follow through all the canyon if you haven't already, cause it takes so much time and effort, I gave some of my tips, certain shortcuts and some small stairs, but the reality is that I have a move tomorrow and I still have to finish packing, among other things.
Have a nice evening.;)
 
For some reason this made me recall the don promoting injecting bleach. Thanks for the :ROFLMAO:

Don't you think Trump was a professional Troll?
I think that's the new political Maya Veil, it's no longer pretending they are serious, but pretending they are "with the people" copying mannierisms and "ideas" but really trolling their voters
Oh.. true, it's called populism... :cautious:

In anycase, I have MMS in home, never used but it's not "bleach" and in little doses not more dangerous than drinking whatever crap people drink, alcohol, sugary drinks...
 
Don't you think Trump was a professional Troll?
Trump's uncle was the man in charge of going through the stolen possessions of the deceased Nikola Tesla, after the FBI illegally confiscated all of it the instant he died.

For that reason alone his entire family is off the checklist of the trustworthy. Connection with the military industrial establishment is a big fat red flag.
 
I also explained this, I cannot help you follow through all the canyon if you haven't already, cause it takes so much time and effort, I gave some of my tips, certain shortcuts and some small stairs, but the reality is that I have a move tomorrow and I still have to finish packing, among other things.
Have a nice evening.;)
You make many good points. It's very difficult to explain things without that person being on the same level of awareness as you. That's the way it is. People will awaken when its right. It might never be the right time. It hasn't been the right time for many generations, which is why the same lies are perpetuated, and the world gets more and more fucked up. The more lies the more normal everything seems until its normal for things not to be normal. What is normal? Gaslighting at its finest. We live in a world full of illusions, frauds, lies, scandals. Reality is propped up by them. Reality in 2002 was worlds apart from reality in 2012 which is now distinct from reality in 2022. All the while, everything remains exactly the same because reality in 2002 was just as fucked up as it is now only it was in different ways. If it's fucked up then and it's fucked up now - what's the difference and why should we care? Everything is normal yet everything is fucked up. So many problems but at the same time if you mention any of these problems you are considered a lunatic, unless the problems are the problems you are told to mention. In which case it's a problem that you are so easily controlled and coralled into a sheep pen to bleet false narratives while the real problems that exist underneath those problems still exist.

Don't you think Trump was a professional Troll?
I think that's the new political Maya Veil, it's no longer pretending they are serious, but pretending they are "with the people" copying mannierisms and "ideas" but really trolling their voters
Oh.. true, it's called populism... :cautious:

In anycase, I have MMS in home, never used but it's not "bleach" and in little doses not more dangerous than drinking whatever crap people drink, alcohol, sugary drinks...
Trump was just as loyal to agendas as any other president. When the game is rigged, there can only be puppets who serve the establishment. Any who genuinely question the establishment get capped. Seen it through history. Don't need to question that one. He's as filthy as any crook who assumes power.

All that has changed is PR and marketing. Branding has changed from obscure distant symbols to more simplistic forms. The communication is a leaf out of any top-selling self improvement book with it's empty platitudes and body language 'hacks' and feel-good mantras. The face of industry, commercial sectors, government, public facing entities etc is one of "We are friendly. We are just like you!". Gone are the days where government was the suits who lived in those fancy buildings in town who spoke in different accents and legal speak. Now government is your best friend who was always there who didn't spend the past several hundred years on a journey to dominate the world at all costs raping, pillaging and stealing whatever it could find. Nope, your government has changed. Government has been into therapy and come out a changed person. Now we are about feelings and inclusiveness and diversity. We learned our lessons from the past - we promise! ;)
You see massive trends towards this over the years spanning all areas of society where the emphasis is on being 'kind' to people and the environment. Big companies are using the same psyche-up feel-good techniques. Now everything is about it being lovingly made (in a mass production facility churned out by machines like clock work, or in some foreign country by slave labourers where human rights are non-existent) and how it comes from nature (something we absolutely hate and cannot stand being a part of hence our self destructive narcissistic decisions destroying the planet) and how it helps us. Yay! Now you can buy bananas in a shop that are "loving" bananas grown in "heavenly conditions with umpa-lumpas from Charlie and the Chocolate factory massaging the trees into ladening them with heavenly bounties". What were the other bananas then? Hateful sociopaths? You see it with the fashion industry selling products that are still exactly the same but now emphasize how much they REALLY REALLY REALLY care about you with fun-loving images of multi racial couples dancing on the beach with the sun setting in the distance. Ah, perfect! I wonder where these jeans were made. What?! Myanmar?! India?! CHINA?! Don't worry, these are the bastions of peace and happiness and all their jeans are "lovingly" made by people who absolutely are not forced to earn next to nothing putting jeans together for the Western world. You have big tech companies that now sell their products like they are all about relationships, connections, friendship, love, support etc. While all the big players at the top of this pile continue to distance themselves more and more from the interests of the average person. But still, it's about friendship guys! We are not at all trying to carve up the social marketplace in order to consolidate all the power and control all the information. No way! It's about feel-good vibes and love!

Be careful because this is how we tumble into tyranny. It first starts as it being good for everybody; good for health, good for community, society, planet, dogs, pandas, cute little things.
Then as soon as the noose is firmly around the neck, now it becomes about you CONFORMING to the power structure that lies beneath you. China are masters at this level of manipulation, as are any other absolute power. One you didn't even know existed until you stepped out of line one day or said something out of line with the prescribed reality. It's all flowers and rainbows in the beginning, like Disneyland. But when you start learning about Disneyland and it's history and it's agendas, now it becomes something far more darker. Or, it's like Scientology or any other cult. It's beautiful and all about community, until it's not and you're trying to escape Manson's ranch and you're being chased by a pack of wild brainwashed cult members. Or worse, Tom Cruise and his intrusive gay thoughts that Scientology couldn't eradicate for him.

But hey, all in the name of coming together, right?
Why are you leaving the ranch? Don't you wanna sing and dance round the campfire?
 
In the entire history of mankind? Worse than the crusades, worse than the holocaust, worse than the world wars of the 20th century?
Well I guess that depends on where you see vaccines going…if you think they are a population control or nanobot delivery system or even a way to manipulate human DNA to make us more easily controlled equilibrium style, then I guess they would be the worst
 
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